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5 days in the office - rant!!!

472 replies

DonnyDoris · 25/09/2025 09:22

My company mandated 5 days in the office a couple of months ago, which in principle I have no issues with. However, my commute is just over an hour on motorways that have long term roadworks, so massively tedious and today I have no meetings so absolutely no reason to be here other than presenteeism. Could have got so much more done and also all my housework if I could've worked from home 😖Just needed to get that off my chest!!!!

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HairsprayBabe · 26/09/2025 16:10

@WitchesCauldron so because some people have terrible jobs with terrible working conditions we should put up with whatever conditions our not sweatshop jobs throw at us?

Why is it always a race to the bottom - there is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting a better work life balance. It's just plain weird that you are so bitter about it.

Lispbon · 26/09/2025 16:11

Many jobs are suited to home working. Many are not. Take your pick. But if yours isn’t the only reason I can fathom for your intense dislike for those that are, is envy. Home working piss takers, same as office based piss takers are found out, because in my industry we measure output by time billed. Having that balance between high professional productivity and quality down time is immense, and to be fair, something I would totally envy if I didn’t have it. But I made my job choice. You can be negative (and absurd)about wfh roles all you like, it won’t negate the benefits or make your shitty commute /lack of work life balance any better.

Make your choice.

WitchesCauldron · 26/09/2025 16:12

SwingTheMonkey · 26/09/2025 15:57

What on earth have kids working in sweat shops got to do with bitter women on mumsnet?!

No one is bitter dearie. But there's an awful lot of WFH people who are ever so slightly touchy about it.

SwingTheMonkey · 26/09/2025 16:17

WitchesCauldron · 26/09/2025 16:12

No one is bitter dearie. But there's an awful lot of WFH people who are ever so slightly touchy about it.

Not in the slightest. I’m quite happy with my situation, why would I be touchy? Just utterly bemused that people can be so bitter about other people’s situations (and you are coming across as ever so bitter!)

HairsprayBabe · 26/09/2025 16:20

@SwingTheMonkey 100% it makes sense to defend the position you are in -but to be so angry about the way someone else works especially when it doesn't impact you is peculiar at best

User21548967 · 26/09/2025 16:34

WitchesCauldron · 26/09/2025 16:12

No one is bitter dearie. But there's an awful lot of WFH people who are ever so slightly touchy about it.

Can you dig down into this comment because I have re-read it and still cannot make sense of it.

The people who work from home are happy.
Some of the people who don't work from home are not happy.

Why would the happy people be 'touchy' about it. I'm genuinely interested in whatever answer you come up with. Feel free to elaborate on your answer because its quite difficult to understand where your reasoning is coming from.

thinklagoon · 26/09/2025 16:35

SwingTheMonkey · 26/09/2025 15:17

Jesus, what is it with some peoples’ opinion that your working life should be as hard, draining and inflexible as humanly possible? So odd.

The wfh threads always bring out the crowd who love the boot on their neck.

NatalieW1907 · 26/09/2025 16:46

Sweatshops a bit OTT it's not my comment that started this but I thought on mumsnet there would be a more informed debate instead of utter rudeness. I am not answering anymore tell the person who put the comment in before answering me. I dont work I don't care

Plastictreees · 26/09/2025 16:47

What is even happening on this thread 😂😂😂😂

WitchesCauldron · 26/09/2025 16:47

SwingTheMonkey · 26/09/2025 15:45

😂

How exactly? Because I think it’s pathetic to have a problem with people working from home?

I don't.

I have an issue with laziness and entitlement .

SwingTheMonkey · 26/09/2025 16:48

Plastictreees · 26/09/2025 16:47

What is even happening on this thread 😂😂😂😂

Absolutely insane, isn’t it?!

Plastictreees · 26/09/2025 16:48

WitchesCauldron · 26/09/2025 16:47

I don't.

I have an issue with laziness and entitlement .

So you think people who work from home are lazy and entitled? Is that the crux of your argument?

SwingTheMonkey · 26/09/2025 16:50

WitchesCauldron · 26/09/2025 16:47

I don't.

I have an issue with laziness and entitlement .

Oh well… I’m neither lazy nor entitled so I guess we’re good 🤞

LizzyEm · 26/09/2025 16:56

TheCurious0range · 25/09/2025 09:59

If you can do your housework while you're working you're not giving your job 100% of your attention while your employer is paying you to do so. This is why employers are moving away from remote working

She'd gain 2 hours a day by not commuting.

User21548967 · 26/09/2025 17:09

WitchesCauldron · 26/09/2025 16:47

I don't.

I have an issue with laziness and entitlement .

A. Do you work from home or the office?
B. Is the job one you can work from home?
C. Are you in the public sector?
D. Are you a people manager?

I'm trying to see what angle you are coming from.

Goldenbear · 26/09/2025 17:29

WitchesCauldron · 26/09/2025 16:12

No one is bitter dearie. But there's an awful lot of WFH people who are ever so slightly touchy about it.

To be fair, you do sound very resentful.

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 26/09/2025 17:30

WitchesCauldron · 26/09/2025 16:47

I don't.

I have an issue with laziness and entitlement .

How in earth is it entitled to work from home? 😳

ElfAssassin · 26/09/2025 17:33

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 25/09/2025 09:49

"And all my housework"
Might just explain why they want you in the office

Or she could do the housework in the time she is currently commuting...

Smoggy1 · 26/09/2025 17:37

I started a job that was entirely remote, as part of an entirely remote team. The company reached out to me to be interviewed. I did live near the office, but was literally in the process of moving back to my hometown, but they assured me that it was remote. My first manager lived in Scotland (English company) and my second another hour further than I was. Then, after 2 years, they decided to make is hybrid. I wasn't prepared to spend 4 hours a day and God knows how much on petrol to go to an office and be less productive. I also have a second job I do in evenings so would not be able to get home for that either. I changed jobs to something entirely in-person, which was max 30 minute commute, and absolutely couldn't be done remotely. Quite a few of us on the team left at the same time because of the change, all of whom lived over an hour away from the office.

StinkyCheeseMoose · 26/09/2025 18:27

User21548967 · 26/09/2025 16:34

Can you dig down into this comment because I have re-read it and still cannot make sense of it.

The people who work from home are happy.
Some of the people who don't work from home are not happy.

Why would the happy people be 'touchy' about it. I'm genuinely interested in whatever answer you come up with. Feel free to elaborate on your answer because its quite difficult to understand where your reasoning is coming from.

Edited

This thread started with an OP who used to be happy when she was working from home and doing all her housework during working hours.

She is no longer happy, because her employer has now decided - for reasons she cannot understand - that it's in the best interests of the business that she and her colleagues work from work instead.

None of us can know for certain why OP's employer made this decision, but unless OP and her colleagues have a contractual right to work from home, the employer is within their rights to insist they work from work.

I doubt they have made this decision without a good reason, but OP has herself given us a possible clue as to what the reason might be.

If she (and maybe her colleagues) think doing all their housework in company time is OK, the employer might be justified in wanting to monitor them.

If you can work from home and you enjoy working from home, FFS don't abuse the privilege.

CreepingCrone · 26/09/2025 18:35

My old employer alienated nearly all senior staff by mandating 4 days in the office. 21/28 of us left, and I'd been there +12 years. I work remotely now and I will never ever commute for a job again.

User21548967 · 26/09/2025 18:36

CreepingCrone · 26/09/2025 18:35

My old employer alienated nearly all senior staff by mandating 4 days in the office. 21/28 of us left, and I'd been there +12 years. I work remotely now and I will never ever commute for a job again.

Its a shame you all didn't walk out en masse rather than wait to find another job thereby giving them time to recruit.

They'd have had no option but to allow you to continue WFH if you'd all stuck together at the time.

Goldenbear · 26/09/2025 18:37

StinkyCheeseMoose · 26/09/2025 18:27

This thread started with an OP who used to be happy when she was working from home and doing all her housework during working hours.

She is no longer happy, because her employer has now decided - for reasons she cannot understand - that it's in the best interests of the business that she and her colleagues work from work instead.

None of us can know for certain why OP's employer made this decision, but unless OP and her colleagues have a contractual right to work from home, the employer is within their rights to insist they work from work.

I doubt they have made this decision without a good reason, but OP has herself given us a possible clue as to what the reason might be.

If she (and maybe her colleagues) think doing all their housework in company time is OK, the employer might be justified in wanting to monitor them.

If you can work from home and you enjoy working from home, FFS don't abuse the privilege.

It's not a privilege, it's just a different work setting. Anyone can WFH if they so wish, nobody is told that they have to do a certain job.

CreepingCrone · 26/09/2025 19:04

User21548967 · 26/09/2025 18:36

Its a shame you all didn't walk out en masse rather than wait to find another job thereby giving them time to recruit.

They'd have had no option but to allow you to continue WFH if you'd all stuck together at the time.

There were lots of other reasons why working there had become intolerable for most of us. It was a very toxic workplace where employees weren't treated well. Turning the tables on wfh was the final straw.
As the breadwinner, I didn't have the luxury of risking reliable income, so I had to have a contingency plan in place.

missmollygreen · 26/09/2025 19:06

socks1107 · 25/09/2025 10:13

I think the housework comment explains why they want you back in.

Exactly, I wonder how much other "multi-tasking" the OP does?