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Migrants get up to £2000 on bankcard after prison sentences

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Ihatetomatoes · 24/09/2025 22:14

Just watched 47 migrants being deported, costing hundreds of thousands, private flights, huge number of security guards, the migrants then get given cash cards! Back to Romania after committing crimes here including murder, sexual offences, pedophiles with money to help them resettle in their own country.

ITV news - our own go hungry and cold.

We are total mugs here in the UK.

On a separate story migrants having taxis to appointments, free NHS. I mean we have to get to our own way.

Mugs. No wonder many people are unhappy. These are convicted criminals, being pandered to.

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DoinFineIThink · 25/09/2025 00:14

24karatPalamino · 24/09/2025 23:49

Whether Starmer is personally making the taxi calls or not is irrelevant. It’s undeniable that Labour are doing an awful job. Truly, unbelievably awful. Worse than the Tories,
and I really didn’t think that was possible.
I cannot believe how economically illiterate they are. This country is going to be in a terrible state in another 4 years. It’s going to be bad for everyone except illegal migrants and human rights lawyers at this rate.

See, I'm feeling a bit more positive under Labour rather than the years of Tories - starting to see more police out walking the streets, looking out for people, and a rise in doctors appointments.
So all this doom mongering isn't my experience.

DoinFineIThink · 25/09/2025 00:16

I’d take getting ill anywhere back in France over running the gauntlet with hordes of the unwashed in an NHS A&E
Well, aren't you delightful. 🙄

Lifesd · 25/09/2025 00:18

DoinFineIThink · 24/09/2025 23:12

Another reason I would never vote for them.. The NHS is amazing and I'm not about to vote to put it in danger.

Is the NHS amazing? Heath outcomes in the UK are not great, have you seen the stories today about Blackpool vic? The NHS needs drastic reform and it is utterly unsustainable in its current model and the additional population is putting additional strain on it. No political party has the balls to actually tackle the problem - perhaps reform will.

EsmaCannonball · 25/09/2025 00:29

What's to stop them having a nice visit home and then using the £2000 to come straight back here (through illegal channels if they are on some kind of watchlist) to commit more crimes? We have a system that is built on naivety.

sleepwouldbenice · 25/09/2025 00:37

EsmaCannonball · 25/09/2025 00:29

What's to stop them having a nice visit home and then using the £2000 to come straight back here (through illegal channels if they are on some kind of watchlist) to commit more crimes? We have a system that is built on naivety.

Because that would cost more than £2k and is dangerous...

Hth...

Fancyachangefromitall · 25/09/2025 00:44

Motnight · 24/09/2025 22:15

Hi Nige.

Ridiculous comment 🙄

Fancyachangefromitall · 25/09/2025 00:46

fost · 24/09/2025 22:22

They give them money to get them to agree to go. The £2k is far less than the cost of housing them and all the court time and paperwork etc if they don't agree to leave voluntarily.

Then return with another fake identity

SparklingRivers · 25/09/2025 00:48

I would feel utterly betrayed at that if I was a victim of their crime. However I can see the logical mindset- someone with some money to restart is less likely to commit crime instantly again.
It's sensible as part of rehabilitation.. and I don't care which country they're from/going to there will be vulnerable children and women there too.
However ideally their own country should be providing the money - and funding or facilitating the prison sentence really.

SparklingRivers · 25/09/2025 00:50

Lifesd · 25/09/2025 00:18

Is the NHS amazing? Heath outcomes in the UK are not great, have you seen the stories today about Blackpool vic? The NHS needs drastic reform and it is utterly unsustainable in its current model and the additional population is putting additional strain on it. No political party has the balls to actually tackle the problem - perhaps reform will.

Really it is. Its stretched because we are now treating thousands of extra people with more complex conditions who decade's back would've already died.
It's far better than the US system which is flooded with money.

JMSA · 25/09/2025 00:52

Mugs. OP, you are absolutely right.

EsmaCannonball · 25/09/2025 00:53

sleepwouldbenice · 25/09/2025 00:37

Because that would cost more than £2k and is dangerous...

Hth...

Not from Albania or Romania, especially when the organised crime group you will be committing crimes for is facilitating your UK entry. In fact, even from North Africa the cost of paying people smugglers has gone down in the last couple of years due to the sheer numbers of people migrating. Some people are paying less than £150O to travel out of Libya.

EsmaCannonball · 25/09/2025 00:57

SparklingRivers · 25/09/2025 00:48

I would feel utterly betrayed at that if I was a victim of their crime. However I can see the logical mindset- someone with some money to restart is less likely to commit crime instantly again.
It's sensible as part of rehabilitation.. and I don't care which country they're from/going to there will be vulnerable children and women there too.
However ideally their own country should be providing the money - and funding or facilitating the prison sentence really.

Sex crimes are not crimes of financial acquisition so £2000 isn't going to protect any woman or child from them.

Lifesd · 25/09/2025 01:17

SparklingRivers · 25/09/2025 00:50

Really it is. Its stretched because we are now treating thousands of extra people with more complex conditions who decade's back would've already died.
It's far better than the US system which is flooded with money.

Why is the US always the comparator when talking about health? I live in Australia and have lived in European countries and the systems here and there are far superior to the NHS - yes there are some costs attached but as a PP said with what we pay in NI you could have far better access and choice to health services through a private provider. AND there is a safety net for those on the lowest incomes which doesn’t result in people not getting treatment. The NHS is a failing and flawed model which has outgrown what it was first expected to do.

DoinFineIThink · 25/09/2025 01:22

The NHS is a failing and flawed model which has outgrown what it was first expected to do
It's been a lifeline for me this year, it's been brilliant.

Clarabell77 · 25/09/2025 01:28

Ihatetomatoes · 24/09/2025 22:18

Bank cards with up to £2000 on them. They are criminals. Murder, sex criminals, etc. Romanian, not in any danger.

As someone else said, it’s cheaper than having them here in prison.

Your OP mentions our own going cold and hungry, so do you think we should give people on benefits more benefits? (“Our own” of course, whatever that actually means)

Daygloboo · 25/09/2025 01:29

Ihatetomatoes · 24/09/2025 22:14

Just watched 47 migrants being deported, costing hundreds of thousands, private flights, huge number of security guards, the migrants then get given cash cards! Back to Romania after committing crimes here including murder, sexual offences, pedophiles with money to help them resettle in their own country.

ITV news - our own go hungry and cold.

We are total mugs here in the UK.

On a separate story migrants having taxis to appointments, free NHS. I mean we have to get to our own way.

Mugs. No wonder many people are unhappy. These are convicted criminals, being pandered to.

Don't you want them.gone..Sounds like a good way of getting rid of them..

Daygloboo · 25/09/2025 01:34

Ihatetomatoes · 24/09/2025 22:36

Obviously some on mumsnet think it's funny that people are annoyed. Its pretty disgusting that so much money is wasted when people here have needs not met, health, education etc.

Well if the rich and corporations paid their way, we'd all be better off. Migrants are scapegoats for a party full of people who want to make a shed load of money out of the NHS and fossil fuels if they get in. Prople who vote for Reform.better find deep pockets to pay their health insurance when that lot get in. You must all.need your heads examining.

Clarabell77 · 25/09/2025 01:35

Ihatetomatoes · 24/09/2025 23:04

Nope, they didn't use bribes. They didn't want to go so were forcibly deported, that's not voluntary, it's against their wishes, being escorted by up to 7 security guards at the end of their prison sentences. The cash wasn't a bribe for volunteering to go. Just a little bonus.

I thought you watched it? The guy they interviewed said they are only supposed to get it if they go quietly. They don’t get it if they’re abusive etc.

Daygloboo · 25/09/2025 01:38

24karatPalamino · 24/09/2025 23:17

I’d happily go to an insurance based health system. I pay way more in NI than I ever would on private healthcare, as does DH and we only have one child, who also pays NI.
I could get a bloody good policy for what I pay each month.

The NHS is also dreadful and not fit for purpose. I’m going deaf in one ear but can’t get an appointment with a GP around my work and have been advised that the wait time for an ENT appointment is years anyway. I can’t believe anyone would think that it doesn’t need reform.

Private health care escalates. You think it's OK but you end up paying a fortune for every little extra. Yiu have no idea. Do you know what it's like in US. Most people here simply wouldn't get the treatment they need..

suburberphobe · 25/09/2025 01:41

These are all criminals. Romania is their country.

This is disgusting. Not all Romanians are criminals. I've met a few lovely hard-working ones.

Glad I don't know you in real life.

HappiestSleeping · 25/09/2025 01:43

Ihatetomatoes · 24/09/2025 22:27

Yes, then people wonder why Reform attract voters. The 2 main parties to date have been useless. These are all criminals. Romania is their country. They aren't our problem.

What we need to spend the money on is our citizens, our homeless our poor, our children's education, the NHS.

One main party has been useless. That would be the Conservatives. Labour have increased the volume of people processed, and returned more people in the last year than the Conservatives did in the last six years.

The funny thing is that these statistics don't seem to make the headlines.

Ginmonkeyagain · 25/09/2025 02:04

It's the facilitated voluntaey return scheme and has been going on for ages. There is also one for homeless foreign nationals. Ir is a LOT cheaper and easier than forced deportations or keeping thwm in the system. Thia is the sort of pramatic cheap incentive scheme those yelling about immigrstion issues want.

Chickensky · 25/09/2025 02:21

Happyjoe · 24/09/2025 23:42

Sounds cheap deal if gets people gone! Seriously tho, must be a good reason? Cheaper in the long run? Makes people want to leave? Bit like how taxpayers pay council tenants £1,000-£2,500 to downsize in property!

It's funny, all this uproar constantly over migrants about money. Why no uproar over how much money our gov's waste? Just watched that fast lane thing about PPE that the tories ran, billions of our money gone into their friends pockets, billions gone.... all our money. This sort of stuff is a real scandal and yet.. nothing, radio silence, no protests outside houses of parliament.

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I do agree there are some very dodgy deals there. I am central to leaning left (used to be called liberal) but I think a PP had it nailed that if you are resident or citizen in the UK and you have been convicted of a serious crime (12 months plus). Then you relinquish all rights your residence in the UK and benefits. Yes it might cost the tax payers to get the criminals back home, but I surely do not agree to a 2k bankcard.

zanycranium · 25/09/2025 02:35

Do you have a source/link to the articles you're talking about?

Wingedharpy · 25/09/2025 03:09

Chickensky · 25/09/2025 02:21

I do agree there are some very dodgy deals there. I am central to leaning left (used to be called liberal) but I think a PP had it nailed that if you are resident or citizen in the UK and you have been convicted of a serious crime (12 months plus). Then you relinquish all rights your residence in the UK and benefits. Yes it might cost the tax payers to get the criminals back home, but I surely do not agree to a 2k bankcard.

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There is no "might cost" about it - it will most definitely cost money to deport criminals and if you're only offering 50p as an incentive to leave voluntarily ie. not legally challenge, then you would have no takers.