Migrants get up to £2000 on bankcard after prison sentences

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Just watched 47 migrants being deported, costing hundreds of thousands, private flights, huge number of security guards, the migrants then get given cash cards! Back to Romania after committing crimes here including murder, sexual offences, pedophiles with money to help them resettle in their own country.

ITV news - our own go hungry and cold.

We are total mugs here in the UK.

On a separate story migrants having taxis to appointments, free NHS. I mean we have to get to our own way.

Mugs. No wonder many people are unhappy. These are convicted criminals, being pandered to.

That very migrant suggested that it is better to get a train ticket. A £600 taxi trip to a doctor reminds me of a report about one NHS trust having to pay £500 to move one bed from one wing of a hospital to another. It is absurd.

It’s disgusting

Imagine a white girl tell you they've been filmed in the shower by their stepfather

Imagine a white girl tell you that they made dinner for them and their sibling last night because their parent was passed out on drugs

Imagine a white girl telling you their brother came into their room in the night and touched them under their pyjamas

Imagine a white woman having to ask their permission to leave the house from their husband

Sadly I don't need to imagine any of these situations as they have literally happened to me.

Is this an acceptable way to treat any women/children? Of course it's not. And I acted on these just as I would act on any of the scenarios you posed, no matter the ethnicity of the reportee.

A grown up with a knee issue. He himself wanted a train ticket. This was all mentioned in that article.

But again the point gets made repeatedly if the law of the land one shall not murder one shall not rape etc etc
Why must we hold up The law of one shall be allowed to appeal repeatedly?
As I say it’s extortion.

Of course they happen and we would report them.

That’s my point.

We don’t report all abuse to all women. It depends on the culture and that is wrong.

What do you mean 'undocumented'? If they are presenting for asylum then they are documented. You seem confused by rightwing nonsense. Give your head a shake.

What documents do they arrive with to verify their identity?

Just what I was thinking.

I wonder how many of these ‘oh so concerned’ people for Muslim women have invited their Muslim female neighbour for a cup of tea.

I have found that when people actually meet and talk in person, their fears and misunderstandings lessen.

Having worked alongside many “overseas carers” I’m sick of this argument. What this argument essentially says is “we are so desperate for carers that we need to employ desperate, poor people from third world countries with no real training to care for our most vulnerable people”.

I’ve worked alongside care homes staffed with many young African men as the mainstay. Do people honestly think these young men dreamt of caring for elderly British people with dementia, that’s always been their dream? No. They’ve come for the visa, nothing more. Lots of the residents’ relatives say “female carers only” so the folk with bad dementia who have no voice end up having their personal care carried out by young males who really don’t care about them. There’s no shared cultural understanding so there’s no reminiscence therapy, for example. It’s disgusting.

We need to make the paid carer role more attractive to recruit people more suitable to care for the vulnerable. The hourly rate is shocking and some people who could do the role well would end up being worse off financially owing to losing benefits etc.

And no I’m not talking about properly educated and vetted skilled health care professionals such as nurses, doctors, physios etc.

Familial and community abuse is often covered up in all types of families and communities. That is how abuse thrives. It is a well documented feature of child abuse, domestic violence, religious abuse and so on (see for example Magdalene Laundries and child abuse in the Catholic church). Of course, the muslim culture has its own ways of covering up abuse, and specific systems that facilitate this — but abuse and its concealment are not a universal features of all muslim life, and not features unique to muslims.

The criminal must have a strong case for an appeal though.

And often the criminal serves half of their sentence in the UK and then is either deported or sent to serve the rest of their sentence in their home country.

For the second option, you don’t need to offer a repatriation fee, but I imagine many of the home countries don’t want the criminals back in their full jails either.

I’m talking about the exact same treatment though. Why is it considered abusive when white women are the victims but not when Muslim women are the victims?

If a white woman said she wasn’t permitted to leave the house without her husband, would she be treated in the same way by professionals as if she was a Muslim woman?

The flip side of that, of course, is those who say women and children aren’t safe in the refugee camps because there is so much violence and sexual assault but then cheering on the men who commit those acts to being allowed into our communities.

Quite the conundrum.

Do you have a link to an example?

The only case that comes to my mind is when poor Banaz Mahmod told a white police officer (PC Angela Cornes) that her family were trying to kill her in an honour killing and the police woman accused Banaz of being melodramatic. Poor Banaz went to the police 4 times and got zero help. She was killed and the police woman didn’t even face a disciplinary.

https://archive.ph/6RRH7

So what examples do you have of Muslim police officers sharing information about victims?

Are you accusing me of lying?
That victims of domestic violence perpetrated by Muslims are not anonymised?

Do you know anyone personally who works as an IDVA?
Ask them.

Refugee camps aren’t safe because they aren’t proper homes, most are just tents. There is very little police presence and limited food and water.

All of which contribute to tensions and exploitation, including of women and children.

If the UK ever descended into refugee camps, say if Russia bombed us, our camps would be similar unsafe places.

You said Muslim police officers, social workers, doctors etc shared the information with the perpetrators and the victim was then killed.

I’m asking for evidence. Why do you think you should be believed without evidence?

Yes. Because of the men

We shouldn’t be accepting thousands of undocumented men into our communities.

It should be thousands of women and children.

You can’t assume every man in a refugee camp is a criminal.

But I agree, we should be taking more women and children.

So you have zero proof or examples of Muslim police officers, social workers, doctors etc sharing information with the perpetrators which leads to the victim being killed.

But I don't think anyone is "cheering" and this is the problem - you're trying to present those who hold a different perspective as supporting heinous acts.

We can acknowledge that there are elements of immigration which are problematic whilst also accepting that not all immigration is a problem and has some positives.

Demonising a whole group of people because of the behaviours of a few is a dangerous president to set.

We need some immigration but the fact is we have millions more than we need or can afford. It’s not demonising to point out the economic reality. Nor the impact on society.

When I was being trained, this was the policy and protocol, this was the reason given.
It didn’t occur to me to demand examples and take notes for @nomas on Mumsnet.
All I can say is to ask someone who works as an IDVA in a place where there is a large Muslim community.
It makes no difference if you believe me or not.
It’s true.