Migrants get up to £2000 on bankcard after prison sentences

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Just watched 47 migrants being deported, costing hundreds of thousands, private flights, huge number of security guards, the migrants then get given cash cards! Back to Romania after committing crimes here including murder, sexual offences, pedophiles with money to help them resettle in their own country.

ITV news - our own go hungry and cold.

We are total mugs here in the UK.

On a separate story migrants having taxis to appointments, free NHS. I mean we have to get to our own way.

Mugs. No wonder many people are unhappy. These are convicted criminals, being pandered to.

I did wonder with the 600 quid taxi whether it was something like getting a child to Great Ormond Street for specialist care? There was no back story given at all.

There should be no appeal process for a violent criminal. Close that loophole

Our laws don’t protect women and girls who are suffering from the misogynistic abusive aspects of their family’s Islamic culture.

We all turn a blind eye to them.

The first line isn’t the case for the vast majority of people, it was a very low amount. The same for other EU countries who don’t just send people back to the place they first landed.

I was indeed referring to incompatible views such as the treatment of women. We take our current situation as women for granted. If you look at the previous lives of women in Syria for example (60s, 70s) perhaps we should not be so complacent.

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Disparaging others as intellectually impaired? 😄

Evidence of this please?

London is unique, it’s always been a melting pot. A similar percentage of Londoners are black.

I know rightos have been moaning about Muslims for decades but they are still only 5% of the population.

You’re not living in Pakistan, only 3% of Londoners are Pakistani. There are double the number of Indians in London.

My two careers have been in ESOL and working with victims of domestic violence.

Both these experiences made me starkly aware of the misogyny and abuse faced by Muslim women in Britain but their own communities.

And before we get the, “what about the abuse towards catholic women?”, well, we’re allowed to discuss that openly, aren’t we? There’s no fear of being sacked for expressing concern about them.

The problem is that they are not 'served' they are still serving their sentence but the latter half of it is 'on licence'. That means housing them somewhere, usually in a bail hostel, allowing them to claim benefits and look for work usually with engagement from parole officers.

All of that costs far more than £2000.

Then if they break their licence rules they are sent back to prison at huge cost.

I would much rather them be kicked out of the country.

What’s Ludacris (sic, what’s he got to do with it?) is you trying to cause confusion and lies, just like Farage.

The point is Romanians (or other EU nationals who settled in the UK) don’t need to deliberately commit crimes and be jailed for a year and then be deported to get £2,000. There are much easier ways to make £2,000.

You think Muslim women don’t suffer from misogyny from their own culture that professionals turn a blind eye to?

Ok

Imagine a white girl tell you that her parents have arranged for her to marry her cousin.

Imagine a white girl told you that she was not allowed to continue her education because her parents have arranged this marriage as soon as she is 18.

Imagine a white girl had to ask her husband’s permission to leave the house.

Would you think this was acceptable?

Why is it acceptable to treat Muslim women this way?

It’s cheap at the price. Biometric details taken before they leave will ensure they can never come back to the UK.

But that’s the whole point, we shouldn’t need to incentivise people to leave, if they commit a relatively serious crime that results in a prison sentence they are deported. You lose all rights to remain here in these circumstances irrespective of what the ECHR say. This should be made VERY clear to people who come here wanting to settle, legally or otherwise. Your right to remain will be removed and you will be sent home. Sorry if it’s to a horrible country where you may come to harm, but you should have thought about that before you went out and broke our laws.

I love it when 'protecting the women' gets brought into the debate.

Shroedinger's Muslim Women - we don't want them here, we mustn't let asylum seekers bring them here if their claim is approved, we must protect them at all cost.

You’re not making any logical points whatsoever.
Nobody is suggesting that the £2000 is an incentive
However it is rewarding the wrong behaviour.
And it’s unnecessary.
They can just be booted out without any of the support that might potentially be offered to offenders in the UK on the basis that they have somewhat got us by the balls because we can’t kick them out.
However I do speak from experience that there is not £2000 available to/offered to UK offenders when they complete their entire sentences. Never mind half of them.

And …. What sort of English is, is you?

Who has been sacked for expressing genuine concern for Muslim women?

I can’t imagine there is any charity for Muslim women who wouldn’t welcome support.

Ime, charities are always crying out for volunteers.

I hundred percent bet they aren’t doing that.

It would cost more than two grand to collect and store that Data

I think we should be prioritising women and children asylum seekers.

It’s undocumented adult males that I think we should be very cautious about their entry.

Life expectancy in UK is 81.5 years now, so not a huge increase on 75 years. I

We’ve deprioritised women and children recently, well Labour have. They can’t get here anymore due to policy change.

The £2,000 payment is an incentive to leave, rather than appealing your deportation order or (as a pp explained) finishing the rest of your sentence on license in accomodation provided by the UK government. Also, the criminal isn’t allowed to return to the UK.

They can’t just be booted out before this process is complete without risking being sued at the ECHR which would cost millions.

And …. What sort of English is, is you?

Accurate English, which is more than can be said for yours.

I think, honestly, you are falling for rightwing propaganda, and it is sad. Immigrants (even those who have committed crimes) have basic human rights and rights under the laws of the countries where they reside. This is beneficial because these rights are the same ones that allow the rest of us to live freely and assert our own rights. This means that they have the right to contest deportation, to take that contestation to court, to force the government into costly litigation, etc. They can also disappear, stay and commit further crimes. £2000 is a relatively minor amount to offer as an incentive to leave the country. Most criminals are not in fact murderers. Yes, you may personally prefer a system that immediately shackles and deports 'foreigners' with no resources, on whatever basis, but the reality is that would also be very costly (staff, equipment, medical care), and start to erode your own rights.

Of course Muslims come here from many countries, but I think the point @snughugswas making is that a large number of people from Pakistan have settled here, and around 97% of Pakistanis are Muslim, statistics show they generally have higher birth rates than the indigenous non Muslim population which is likely to cause cultural issues in the future.

When I worked with victims of domestic violence, any women whose perpetrators was from a Muslim background, would have to be anonymised. Even the police were not permitted to have their details.
This was because there was a culture of Muslim police officers, social workers, doctors etc sharing the information with the perpetrators and the victim being killed.

When I worked in ESOL, I expressed many concerns with how my female Muslim students were treated. I expressed concerns about how their mothers being being treated. I was told that it was “cultural” and I shouldn’t be “prejudiced”

No one wants to know about it. They’re resistant to people taking about it.

Much like you are very kindly exemplifying right here.