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Migrants get up to £2000 on bankcard after prison sentences

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Ihatetomatoes · 24/09/2025 22:14

Just watched 47 migrants being deported, costing hundreds of thousands, private flights, huge number of security guards, the migrants then get given cash cards! Back to Romania after committing crimes here including murder, sexual offences, pedophiles with money to help them resettle in their own country.

ITV news - our own go hungry and cold.

We are total mugs here in the UK.

On a separate story migrants having taxis to appointments, free NHS. I mean we have to get to our own way.

Mugs. No wonder many people are unhappy. These are convicted criminals, being pandered to.

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Bloozie · 25/09/2025 09:54

KhakiTiger · 25/09/2025 09:16

You do know that I was referring to far left Marxists on this thread, right?

Acknowledging that immigration is a problem but that there isn't a quick and easy answer, and we need to treat people (even criminals) with a basic level of human decency doesn't make anyone a 'far left Marxist'.

Your arguments are ridiculous.

MrsSkylerWhite · 25/09/2025 09:54

Ihatetomatoes · 24/09/2025 22:57

I don't care what they did BEFORE they raped, murdered, assault, and other associated crimes, once convicted of SERIOUS crimes they need booting out.

Any carers that haven't been convicted of serious crimes don't have to leave. The story was only about people who were convicted 😂

They are being booted out and in the cheapest way legally possible.

Horserider5678 · 25/09/2025 09:54

BeHappySloth · 25/09/2025 09:49

It's a very complex issue and Reform's overly simplistic soundbites are no doubt appealing to those who don't like to trouble their brains with too much thinking. The reality is, Reform don't have any answers either, as their shambolic policy announcement on ILR the other day amply demonstrated.

People with genuinely centrist political views don't vote for racist far right parties, no matter how pissed off or politically homeless they might be feeling, because the values and aims of those racist far right parties will not ever be acceptable to them. That is just a fact.

We live in a democracy and people are entitled to vote for whichever party they choose. All I am asking is that people own that choice and stop trying to shift the blame for their choices onto others. If you like the far right racist party, then that is your prerogative. I am merely asking you to be honest with yourself and others about the choices that you're making.

Or as I like to put it there intellectually impaired! Or in my Mother’s Day would be called thick!

Oioisavaloy27 · 25/09/2025 09:55

Hardhaton1 · 25/09/2025 09:53

You could say that about British criminals it’s going to cost me 60 grand to incarcerate somebody for Just the one murder so it’s not cost-effective what I’ll do is I’ll let them off and give them two grand to piss off and tell me that they won’t do it again
Is that how the criminal justice system is? Gonna work going forward?

Because 35000 immigrants have been deported you can't have it both ways, people are complaining about immigration and 35000 have just been deported and yet here people are still moaning.

BananaBum · 25/09/2025 09:55

£2k not to fight deportation sounds like a pretty good deal to me. What would they be doing otherwise you have to ask? Using local resources, claiming benefits long term etc? Potentially committing more crime and then going back to prison? Surely that’s a much more expensive cost to our resources (both monetary and physical)

Not sure what you are expecting asylum seekers to do about getting to their care appointments. Die? Spend three days on a bus, unsure of where they are? Run off and work illegally? Source medication from the black market?

HerewardtheSleepy · 25/09/2025 09:56

So, come up with a better solution.

And don't, PLEASE, tell me it's a Reform Government.

I've scraped better things than Reform off of the sole of my shoe.

Hardhaton1 · 25/09/2025 09:56

Oioisavaloy27 · 25/09/2025 09:55

Because 35000 immigrants have been deported you can't have it both ways, people are complaining about immigration and 35000 have just been deported and yet here people are still moaning.

You absolutely can have it both ways
They can be deported without any monetary advantage being given to them by the depurators
Oh how they probably piss themselves laughing as they use the money to come back with 🙄

BIossomtoes · 25/09/2025 09:57

GoodTimesNoodleSalad · 25/09/2025 09:36

Tories and Labour are both equally useless and have failed to address the issue. 72% of the voting public believes immigration to be too high. So why castigate people when there’s no other option? They might not even particularly like Reform, but they’re the only party that hasn’t been charged with tackling large scale immigration and failed at it.

Oh, it’s gone down - it was 79% an hour ago.

MaturingCheeseball · 25/09/2025 09:57

Posters who continuously say, Nothing to see here have clearly never been to certain parts of the country, parts which have changed beyond all recognition.

I simply can’t fathom why Western culture is considered so disposable? Do posters honestly believe that the subjugation of women is acceptable? Child marriage? Girls having to be fully covered? Not receiving schooling?

I think that given a few years we will be balkanised - there will be distinct groups living incompatible lives.

Ilfurfante · 25/09/2025 09:59

snughugs · 25/09/2025 09:46

It 15% Muslims in London and growing at a rapid rate and spreading to other cities. I love a curry but I don’t particularly want to live in Pakistan. Crack on with this mentality you’ll soon see where it ends up and it won’t be your left leaning values being protected. You do realise it’s grown very quickly in a short time and will continue?

Wow - you do know that all Muslims don't "come" from Pakistan don't you? Curry is also a staple on many other countries.

HerewardtheSleepy · 25/09/2025 09:59

MaturingCheeseball · 25/09/2025 09:57

Posters who continuously say, Nothing to see here have clearly never been to certain parts of the country, parts which have changed beyond all recognition.

I simply can’t fathom why Western culture is considered so disposable? Do posters honestly believe that the subjugation of women is acceptable? Child marriage? Girls having to be fully covered? Not receiving schooling?

I think that given a few years we will be balkanised - there will be distinct groups living incompatible lives.

Name these parts of the country. As a Londoner I should be fascinated to hear where they are.

MaturingCheeseball · 25/09/2025 10:08

Ok, Bradford, Luton, Slough … parts of Birmingham, parts of Leeds… these are just what I have seen.

ElectoralControversy · 25/09/2025 10:12

GoodTimesNoodleSalad · 25/09/2025 09:36

Tories and Labour are both equally useless and have failed to address the issue. 72% of the voting public believes immigration to be too high. So why castigate people when there’s no other option? They might not even particularly like Reform, but they’re the only party that hasn’t been charged with tackling large scale immigration and failed at it.

I'll bet a substantial sum of cash that 99% of the population has no idea what the current level of immigration is, how much is legal, illegal, or refugees; and whether it's going up or down.

See knee jerk comments above "no other countries would allow this" - really? How does Germany deal with foreign nationals convicted of crimes? France?

"We're a laughing stock" - really? Who's laughing? Are there really countries out there who seamlessly balance their need to treat people fairly with their need not to have their hospitality exploited? If so which ones and what can we learn from them?

Just repeating phrases you heard on social media or the Mail isn't helpful, maybe think about what you're actually saying and dial down the hyperbole so we can find grown-up solutions?

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 25/09/2025 10:13

I imagine plenty will use at least some of the money to make their way back here.

InsectsMatter · 25/09/2025 10:20

It’s absolutely nuts.

Ilfurfante · 25/09/2025 10:23

MaturingCheeseball · 25/09/2025 09:57

Posters who continuously say, Nothing to see here have clearly never been to certain parts of the country, parts which have changed beyond all recognition.

I simply can’t fathom why Western culture is considered so disposable? Do posters honestly believe that the subjugation of women is acceptable? Child marriage? Girls having to be fully covered? Not receiving schooling?

I think that given a few years we will be balkanised - there will be distinct groups living incompatible lives.

My community changed significantly with the advent of giant supermarket chains and the internet.

I didn't realise that child marriage was legal in this country. Aware though certain factions in US want to lower the age of consent. Hopefully Nige doesn't want to introduce that here too. 🤞

LakieLady · 25/09/2025 10:26

SparklingRivers · 25/09/2025 00:50

Really it is. Its stretched because we are now treating thousands of extra people with more complex conditions who decade's back would've already died.
It's far better than the US system which is flooded with money.

And because increased life expectancy and new treatments mean that people are living longer, and that health conditions that were not survivable or treatable a decade or two ago can now be treated. Those new treatments are often very costly, because the R&D costs have to be recouped.

No-one bats an eyelid when someone reaches 80 these days, but when I was young, 75 was considered very old.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 25/09/2025 10:26

Ilfurfante · 25/09/2025 10:23

My community changed significantly with the advent of giant supermarket chains and the internet.

I didn't realise that child marriage was legal in this country. Aware though certain factions in US want to lower the age of consent. Hopefully Nige doesn't want to introduce that here too. 🤞

I think that poster is pointing out the incompatibilities between Islamic countries’ culture and British culture.
I don’t think it’s shocking to say that many aspects of Islamic culture are incredibly misogynistic and a large number of Islamic countries have norms and values which we would not be happy to accept.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 25/09/2025 10:29

These were ALL convicted criminals, not voluntary ones

I think the "voluntary" bit hinges on the point that they've agreed to go rather than starting the process of enless appeals, @Ihatetomatoes - except that having beeen bribed too many will return for another go

Obviously there's got to be due process, but surely one answer is to change the access to so many appeals. It wouldn't appeal to the maany lawyers making a packet out of this, but would certainly save a great deal of money in the long run

Omgblueskys · 25/09/2025 10:29

Bloozie · 25/09/2025 09:47

Pre-Brexit, we could send people that arrived by boat back to the EU country they first landed in.

Then we voted to remove ourselves from the mechanic that allowed this.

So now we can't just 'send them back to France' if they arrived here by boat.

We do have a system that asks people to prove a minimum income to qualify for a Visa. It's not as high as other countries, because we need low-skilled migrant workers. If we 'closed the borders', our economy would fully tank. We have an ageing population and a declining birth rate, and immigration plugs the gap. Kill the old folk and ban contraception, and you have your easy solution.

I really, really REALLY wish people would engage their brains in the decisions that we made as a sovereign nation that led to the situation we are in. There isn't an easy answer, and if the OP is frustrated, it's because she would rather believe the lie that there is.

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My point is was trying to make was that any other country has a process for residency everyone but uk, this has nothing to do with Brexit, but more about progress, we don't have such progress,

As for France, if you come across without proper paperwork, and all the other stuff you need to take up residence, there for your returned back to France via boat as like all the 1000s that have already arrived here, not fly them back to there own country, that's up them and not the tax payers of the UK,

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 25/09/2025 10:29

Wkanznjs · 24/09/2025 22:22

Not sure why us spending tax payers' money on criminals is "yawn". It's shocking when you consider the state of health, education and everything else in this country.

My politics are in the centre - and I would like to see the left and right collaborate rather than fight, but comments like "Hi Nige" and "Yawn" actually make me feel more inclined to vote Reform next time.

I agreed until the last bit about the vote for Farage the garage mouth.
If they were getting deported I do not understand the 2k gift

MrsSkylerWhite · 25/09/2025 10:31

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 25/09/2025 10:29

I agreed until the last bit about the vote for Farage the garage mouth.
If they were getting deported I do not understand the 2k gift

They received it in exchange for agreeing not to appeal against their deportation, which can get bogged down in legal process for a very long time and cost tens of thousands more from the public purse.

2dogsandabudgie · 25/09/2025 10:34

Bloozie · 25/09/2025 08:57

Agreed. But I'm not going to pee my pants over asylum seekers cooking food themselves if they want variety in their diets. The whole debate is getting ridiculous. We're angry with other humans for cooking now? HOW VERY DARE THEY.

I don't think the issue is the cooking itself, rather that it is a health and safety risk. Taping up fire alarms and using electricity near water is dangerous.

Ilfurfante · 25/09/2025 10:34

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 25/09/2025 10:26

I think that poster is pointing out the incompatibilities between Islamic countries’ culture and British culture.
I don’t think it’s shocking to say that many aspects of Islamic culture are incredibly misogynistic and a large number of Islamic countries have norms and values which we would not be happy to accept.

See my perception was that the poster was pointing to the degradation of certain areas of the country because of immigration. My point refers to the fact that life and communities have changed but that this is due to a wide variety of reasons, not in the least the rise of capitalism. However, it's easier to blame the immigrants.

There are certainly elements of islamic culture which do not align with my own. So do elements of the Catholic faith. Thankfully we do live in a county which separates state from religion and we have laws which protect us.

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 25/09/2025 10:35

BananaBum · 25/09/2025 09:55

£2k not to fight deportation sounds like a pretty good deal to me. What would they be doing otherwise you have to ask? Using local resources, claiming benefits long term etc? Potentially committing more crime and then going back to prison? Surely that’s a much more expensive cost to our resources (both monetary and physical)

Not sure what you are expecting asylum seekers to do about getting to their care appointments. Die? Spend three days on a bus, unsure of where they are? Run off and work illegally? Source medication from the black market?

I think ANY foreign criminals should be deported on departure from prison, without the gift of 2k.
We have enough homegrown criminals as it is

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