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Totally fed up with my husband!

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Sam9769 · 22/09/2025 23:41

I am totally fed up with my husband!
We have been married for 34 years and in all that time if there is work to be done in the house, he has to be hounded to do anything.
We recently moved house but before we moved, we needed to do work on our old house to get it ready for sale. He would wait to be told what to do by me even though it was patently obvious what had to be done. If materials were required for the work, it would be left up to me to sit him down and ask him what was required and I would order them. When I would ask him why he didn't order them, the response was "I don't know!".

Fast forward, we are now in our new house which is a 1950s house and nothing has been done in it since the 1990's. Husband who is 65 and in good health is retired. I am 61 and partially retired working two days per week.
Lots of work to be done in the house and here we are again in the same situation. We hire tradespeople for the work we can't do and you've guessed it, I have to google them and find them, phone and arrange for them to come to the house. For work that we can do, he will not initiate ANYTHING!. He has to be pushed to get on with jobs in the house.
At the weekend I realised that the downstairs toilet wasn't working. It transpired that he knew about it but hadn't done anything about it.
Today, I was out of the house for 9 hours at work and doing the grocery shopping after work. Before I left I asked him to mind the two dogs and clean and tidy the kitchen.
When I got home, he was sitting on his computer with a half arsed clean of the kitchen done. He hadn't looked at the toilet and when I went out to take one of the dogs for a walk, I noticed that the outside light wasn't working. He knew about it but had done nothing. It transpires that he spent at least 7 hours today sitting on his backside on his laptop on Utube and the like.
I ended up shouting at him and he clears off upstairs, won't accept responsibility. His response today was that he was minding the dogs even though he had told me that one was outside lying in the sunshine and the other was in the hall sunning himself in a shaft of light so no real minding to do there.
I really don't want to spent whatever time I have left, pushing, cajoling and hounding a grown man to get up off his backside and do jobs in the house that need to be done.
We can't afford to have all the jobs done by the trades and even if we could it would be a free pass for him to do sweet FA.
He knows what to do and is capable of doing it but just doesn't do it!

AIBU to have had it with him?

OP posts:
GoodOldTrayBake · 25/09/2025 03:54

@Meg8 I feel your pain. Can you leave him now? Or at least stop doing everything for him? Live your own life and let him wallow in his filth alone.

3tumsnot1 · 25/09/2025 04:31

Sam9769 · 23/09/2025 00:08

Thank you, I agree with you.
It was seven hours sitting around on his laptop today doing sweet FA that was the final straw!

I completely get you. I have the exact same issue and it is absolutely exhausting. I feel like part of the reason he is like this is because I’m too soft though - other women wouldn’t tolerate it. Other women wouldn’t fill the space by over compensating and doing it all - so they don’t have to. I have to find the energy to carry on - because he won’t do the work, so it won’t get done….. and so we are trapped. Always over working because they don’t do their share.

he will never change and this will do your nut in, till the day you separate. You have to work out if it’s worth it - only you can answer that question.

Summerhut2025 · 25/09/2025 06:32

Meg8 · 25/09/2025 01:08

I have great sympathy for the OP. My DH is identical - except he wasn't particularly good at his job as a Uni Lecturer. He only wanted the job cos of the long holidays that lecturers then had. He was greatly miffed when he was passed over several times for promotion by young, enthusiastic people. He ended up with his main responsibility being for teaching timetables, a job he could do at home, and guess who did it for him?

It took me about three years after marriage to realise he just wasn't "into" housework of any kind. As with the OP I had to remind him to mow the lawn or clean the bathroom, and he took hours over each task, often not completing them or doing them badly. Ever task was interspersed with many breaks for coffee or food, or a bit of telly, or listening to the News (again), and long baths at the end of the day.

At first we had a little semi, then a smallish detached and finally (with two children) a 5-bed detached with 5 downstairs rooms and large garden. While he went off to his job at the Uni I combined childcare with housework, finances, organising holidays, and building a self-employed business for any spare hours I had. I can't think of one job that he took responsibility for - as with the OP, I had to remind him that the lawn needed mowing, or he needed to crack on with lecturer prep. He once took over the family finances and within one month we were overdrawn/ I never let him near the finances again.

In hindsight, I should have left the marriage early on, but threw myself into my business, and later a full-time (and I mean 60 hours a week plus 90 miles a day travelling) job which I did without any help from him, and still did all the household stuff. Every holiday was organised by me, ever day out, everything really. I IMAGINED and EXPECTED that some tasks at least would be his responsibility, like keeping an eye on the state of the garden fence while he was mowing the lawn, but eventually learnt that he could only cope with one thing at once - the mowing - and checking the fence was a separate job, that of course he forgot to do. I use this as just one example. He is quite capable of coming in through the front door and not seeing the pile of post on the doormat. If he did notice it and bring it into the kitchen, he would open it, not read it, and leave the envelopes on the worktop and walk away with a cup of coffee, totally ignored.
doo
I didn't really notice how little he did cos back then I just got on with it, but retirement in our early sixties made it all obvious. While he sat around reading the paper or watching useless TV I wouldd be doing everything else in the home.

He is not useless at DIY, in fact he is pretty competent. The main issue is getting him to even start at task, and then waiting hours to finish it (if he ever does). At one point I bought a tiny flat near my work to avoid the long journey there and back, and bought myself an electric drill. I was amazed as to how quick and easy it was to erect flat-pack furniture, put up curtain rails etc. after years of thinking it was a laborious job!

Now he is physically incapable of much at all. I have to dress him, be there for safety when he showers, do all the housework, gardening, DIY, finances, arrange holidays (and do most of the driving) etc. etc. He has been having physiotherapy on and off for 14 years, each time being discharged because he doesn't keep up with the exercises. As a result I have little sympathy for his pain and discomfort cos he won't even look after his own body.

For 52 years I blindly imagined that he would change, that something would make him realise that he has to make an effort, if only for his own benefit, but he won't (and now probably can't). He was 5 foot 11 when I married him and I am 5 foot 3, but he can't even stretch up to get his muesli out of the cupboard or anything higher than the base of a wall cupboard. He even struggles to turn on a tap, and he can't reach up to shampoo or rinse his hair. Not that he has ever cared about his appearance. He is happy in dirty clothes, including socks. I remind him once a fortnight that he needs to take a shower, but he won't entertain a stand-up wash in between.

If I knew then what I know now, I should have left him years ago but certainly at our retirement, cos he seemed to have written life off by then and I certainly had not.

Those posters who have made out that the OP is in the wrong are so condescending. I almost hope they get theri comeuppance in the future. I do suspect my DH might have some variety of ADHD (oh, and the hoarding of rubbish is phenomenal) but he scoffs at the idea and certainly wouldn't make any effort to find techniques to help himself (and definitely not me).

Basically I hate him now. It should never have got to this. I should have left years ago.

Dear me, I have no words, you deserve a medal, once I’d bought that flat I would never have gone back. Hope you get some respite from him soon.

TheCheekyCyanHelper · 25/09/2025 06:33

Sam9769 · 22/09/2025 23:59

I do the painting and decorating but electrics and plumbing is not something I can do!

I mean, you absolutely could....

TheCheekyCyanHelper · 25/09/2025 06:35

Sam9769 · 23/09/2025 00:19

No, he's never wanted to do any DIY. It's nothing to do with retirement I'm afraid.
On one occasion, many years ago he was having a problem with his car.
He knew how to fix it but rather than do that, he put exposed wires into sandwich bags to keep them dry!

No, he was very keen on move into this new house. The agreement was that we would pay the trades to do the jobs we couldn't do and we would do the remainder together.
If I didn't push him, nothing at all would get done.
If I left and came back in 10 years time, the house would be exactly as it is now.
His sister told me years ago that when he was a student, he wouldn't do his essays until the night before they were due.

Isn't that how everyone does their essays?

TheCheekyCyanHelper · 25/09/2025 06:37

SixtySomething · 23/09/2025 00:52

I think your DH has a mental health condition. I'm not qualified, so I'm not going to venture an opinion on what it is.
Definitely not ADHD, though.

It sounds exactly like ADHD.

TheCheekyCyanHelper · 25/09/2025 06:41

MaurineWayBack · 23/09/2025 09:37

I really don’t think it’s ADHD. The fact he did a half job of the car wires with the sandwich bags shows that.

I have the same ‘model’ At home. It’s an avoidant personality. It’s frustrating and impossible to live either because basically you end up either over functioning, aka doing it all, or you end nagging all the time (which fur an avoidant means they’ll retreat even more).
And if you do stuff, they’ll take that as a sign they dint need to do it. Ever.

i dint know what the answer is. It often feels to me that, regardless of what I’m doing, I can’t win.
But I just wanted to say ‘yep. I know. You’re not alone’

That shows nothing of the kind.

Desmondo2021 · 25/09/2025 06:46

Everyone is being hard on the OP here (bearing in mind I got fed up of reading replies after about the first 10.)

Ive got one of these too OP. Top bloke, kind loving husband. Does absolutely Jack shit towards progressing anything or being proactive about it. Drives me freaking nuts. Every holiday, house job, kid appointment, EVERYTHING we have ever done is driven by me! I guess the only difference is that if given explicit instruction he will do a job and do it well. But just once I would love to hear him say 'ive got someone coming next week to quote for the bathroom...' I've even told him I would FANCY him more if he were more proactive and energetic in this area!!!

latenightscrolling · 25/09/2025 07:12

If you knew what he was like with DIY why on earth would you buy a house that needs work?!!! Madness. Maybe, just maybe at 65 he fancies a bit of a rest!!

JuneJan · 25/09/2025 07:13

Meg8 · 25/09/2025 01:08

I have great sympathy for the OP. My DH is identical - except he wasn't particularly good at his job as a Uni Lecturer. He only wanted the job cos of the long holidays that lecturers then had. He was greatly miffed when he was passed over several times for promotion by young, enthusiastic people. He ended up with his main responsibility being for teaching timetables, a job he could do at home, and guess who did it for him?

It took me about three years after marriage to realise he just wasn't "into" housework of any kind. As with the OP I had to remind him to mow the lawn or clean the bathroom, and he took hours over each task, often not completing them or doing them badly. Ever task was interspersed with many breaks for coffee or food, or a bit of telly, or listening to the News (again), and long baths at the end of the day.

At first we had a little semi, then a smallish detached and finally (with two children) a 5-bed detached with 5 downstairs rooms and large garden. While he went off to his job at the Uni I combined childcare with housework, finances, organising holidays, and building a self-employed business for any spare hours I had. I can't think of one job that he took responsibility for - as with the OP, I had to remind him that the lawn needed mowing, or he needed to crack on with lecturer prep. He once took over the family finances and within one month we were overdrawn/ I never let him near the finances again.

In hindsight, I should have left the marriage early on, but threw myself into my business, and later a full-time (and I mean 60 hours a week plus 90 miles a day travelling) job which I did without any help from him, and still did all the household stuff. Every holiday was organised by me, ever day out, everything really. I IMAGINED and EXPECTED that some tasks at least would be his responsibility, like keeping an eye on the state of the garden fence while he was mowing the lawn, but eventually learnt that he could only cope with one thing at once - the mowing - and checking the fence was a separate job, that of course he forgot to do. I use this as just one example. He is quite capable of coming in through the front door and not seeing the pile of post on the doormat. If he did notice it and bring it into the kitchen, he would open it, not read it, and leave the envelopes on the worktop and walk away with a cup of coffee, totally ignored.
doo
I didn't really notice how little he did cos back then I just got on with it, but retirement in our early sixties made it all obvious. While he sat around reading the paper or watching useless TV I wouldd be doing everything else in the home.

He is not useless at DIY, in fact he is pretty competent. The main issue is getting him to even start at task, and then waiting hours to finish it (if he ever does). At one point I bought a tiny flat near my work to avoid the long journey there and back, and bought myself an electric drill. I was amazed as to how quick and easy it was to erect flat-pack furniture, put up curtain rails etc. after years of thinking it was a laborious job!

Now he is physically incapable of much at all. I have to dress him, be there for safety when he showers, do all the housework, gardening, DIY, finances, arrange holidays (and do most of the driving) etc. etc. He has been having physiotherapy on and off for 14 years, each time being discharged because he doesn't keep up with the exercises. As a result I have little sympathy for his pain and discomfort cos he won't even look after his own body.

For 52 years I blindly imagined that he would change, that something would make him realise that he has to make an effort, if only for his own benefit, but he won't (and now probably can't). He was 5 foot 11 when I married him and I am 5 foot 3, but he can't even stretch up to get his muesli out of the cupboard or anything higher than the base of a wall cupboard. He even struggles to turn on a tap, and he can't reach up to shampoo or rinse his hair. Not that he has ever cared about his appearance. He is happy in dirty clothes, including socks. I remind him once a fortnight that he needs to take a shower, but he won't entertain a stand-up wash in between.

If I knew then what I know now, I should have left him years ago but certainly at our retirement, cos he seemed to have written life off by then and I certainly had not.

Those posters who have made out that the OP is in the wrong are so condescending. I almost hope they get theri comeuppance in the future. I do suspect my DH might have some variety of ADHD (oh, and the hoarding of rubbish is phenomenal) but he scoffs at the idea and certainly wouldn't make any effort to find techniques to help himself (and definitely not me).

Basically I hate him now. It should never have got to this. I should have left years ago.

This post has really resonated with me. It's described my situation entirely. Classic example of ADHD/Autism combined. Everything you described is my life with my husband. It's so I hard and unless you live with someone like this, you can never understand.

PersephoneParlormaid · 25/09/2025 08:05

I think peri menopause affects the change. I did all the house work/kids and worked PT years ago, while DH worked FT and mowed the lawn. I loved having a clean, tidy house and a happy family, and had the energy for it. Now I don’t have the energy and resent having to do the majority of the housework/laundry/gardening/shopping/cooking. He’s a grown adult who should be doing more now, and should have done more then.

Jack80 · 25/09/2025 08:34

Personally the idea of buying a house that needs work in my 60s sounds awful. I would love a bungalow and a chilled life, to me that's what retirement is about.

MusicMakesItAllBetter · 25/09/2025 08:38

Meg8 · 25/09/2025 01:08

I have great sympathy for the OP. My DH is identical - except he wasn't particularly good at his job as a Uni Lecturer. He only wanted the job cos of the long holidays that lecturers then had. He was greatly miffed when he was passed over several times for promotion by young, enthusiastic people. He ended up with his main responsibility being for teaching timetables, a job he could do at home, and guess who did it for him?

It took me about three years after marriage to realise he just wasn't "into" housework of any kind. As with the OP I had to remind him to mow the lawn or clean the bathroom, and he took hours over each task, often not completing them or doing them badly. Ever task was interspersed with many breaks for coffee or food, or a bit of telly, or listening to the News (again), and long baths at the end of the day.

At first we had a little semi, then a smallish detached and finally (with two children) a 5-bed detached with 5 downstairs rooms and large garden. While he went off to his job at the Uni I combined childcare with housework, finances, organising holidays, and building a self-employed business for any spare hours I had. I can't think of one job that he took responsibility for - as with the OP, I had to remind him that the lawn needed mowing, or he needed to crack on with lecturer prep. He once took over the family finances and within one month we were overdrawn/ I never let him near the finances again.

In hindsight, I should have left the marriage early on, but threw myself into my business, and later a full-time (and I mean 60 hours a week plus 90 miles a day travelling) job which I did without any help from him, and still did all the household stuff. Every holiday was organised by me, ever day out, everything really. I IMAGINED and EXPECTED that some tasks at least would be his responsibility, like keeping an eye on the state of the garden fence while he was mowing the lawn, but eventually learnt that he could only cope with one thing at once - the mowing - and checking the fence was a separate job, that of course he forgot to do. I use this as just one example. He is quite capable of coming in through the front door and not seeing the pile of post on the doormat. If he did notice it and bring it into the kitchen, he would open it, not read it, and leave the envelopes on the worktop and walk away with a cup of coffee, totally ignored.
doo
I didn't really notice how little he did cos back then I just got on with it, but retirement in our early sixties made it all obvious. While he sat around reading the paper or watching useless TV I wouldd be doing everything else in the home.

He is not useless at DIY, in fact he is pretty competent. The main issue is getting him to even start at task, and then waiting hours to finish it (if he ever does). At one point I bought a tiny flat near my work to avoid the long journey there and back, and bought myself an electric drill. I was amazed as to how quick and easy it was to erect flat-pack furniture, put up curtain rails etc. after years of thinking it was a laborious job!

Now he is physically incapable of much at all. I have to dress him, be there for safety when he showers, do all the housework, gardening, DIY, finances, arrange holidays (and do most of the driving) etc. etc. He has been having physiotherapy on and off for 14 years, each time being discharged because he doesn't keep up with the exercises. As a result I have little sympathy for his pain and discomfort cos he won't even look after his own body.

For 52 years I blindly imagined that he would change, that something would make him realise that he has to make an effort, if only for his own benefit, but he won't (and now probably can't). He was 5 foot 11 when I married him and I am 5 foot 3, but he can't even stretch up to get his muesli out of the cupboard or anything higher than the base of a wall cupboard. He even struggles to turn on a tap, and he can't reach up to shampoo or rinse his hair. Not that he has ever cared about his appearance. He is happy in dirty clothes, including socks. I remind him once a fortnight that he needs to take a shower, but he won't entertain a stand-up wash in between.

If I knew then what I know now, I should have left him years ago but certainly at our retirement, cos he seemed to have written life off by then and I certainly had not.

Those posters who have made out that the OP is in the wrong are so condescending. I almost hope they get theri comeuppance in the future. I do suspect my DH might have some variety of ADHD (oh, and the hoarding of rubbish is phenomenal) but he scoffs at the idea and certainly wouldn't make any effort to find techniques to help himself (and definitely not me).

Basically I hate him now. It should never have got to this. I should have left years ago.

I feel so much in relation to your words and I wonder if this is going to be my life story unless I do something about it sooner than later.

Baggyit · 25/09/2025 09:03

@Meg8, so now you are this waste of spaces carer?
I swear to god I would forgo my children completely than have ended up like you have.

What about legal advice?
Looking at a nursing home for him?

I know of several women that have separated, divorced in their 60's, when it became apparent that they would now be carer's for selfish men.

One was spectacularly lucky as her husband had an affair, left her and the ink wasn't dry on the divorce when he had a life changing diagnosis.

She wouldn't so much as discuss him with her adult children. She told them to speak to his siblings as his future was absolutely nothing to do with her. She had no intention of being dragged into his care. She very cleverly maintains he broke her heart with his affair and she will never forgive him.
Truth is she considers it the greatest retirement blessing. She is living her best life, independent, looks 15 years younger, surrounded by dear friends.

It is never too late to save yourself.

Foundress · 25/09/2025 09:06

@Meg8 I am so sorry this has been your life. I really hope your post will resonate with some of the other younger women on here who are going through similar. I hope it spurs them on to get out before it’s too late. I can only wish you a better future.

SixtySomething · 25/09/2025 10:39

TheCheekyCyanHelper · 25/09/2025 06:37

It sounds exactly like ADHD.

Well, given that most (troublesome) people on Mumsnet are ADHD, with a bit of Autism thrown in for good measure, it would be really helpful if there's a MH proressional out there, qualified to diagnose, who could throw out a few more potential labels for MN armchair diagnosticians to consider, which might cover this sort of behaviour.

Just to open out the conversation, you undestand? 🤣

Not after a free diagnosis! 🤣

Alternatively, we might need to stick to boring old explanations like 'stuck in his ways'.

And where's the fun in that?

hypnovic · 25/09/2025 10:57

I think if medical issues depression extreme tiredness are ruled out he is a lazy sod

Periperi2025 · 25/09/2025 11:19

hypnovic · 25/09/2025 10:57

I think if medical issues depression extreme tiredness are ruled out he is a lazy sod

Yes but even then it is not that straightforward.

I suspect my STBxH of having a degree of depression thrown in with the suspected ASD, but due to his behaviour patterns, in the 10 years that we have lived where we do, he has never registered with a GP (or dentist, or seen an optician - he wears glasses/contacts) so even if he could acknowledge the problem he couldn't actually access care for it, without several big steps first.

I however now feel guilty that DD will feel responsible for his care in the future and have to deal with this behaviour, i can't put that all on her, so guess i will be burdened forever to some degree.

EuclidianGeometryFan · 25/09/2025 11:24

Periperi2025 · 25/09/2025 11:19

Yes but even then it is not that straightforward.

I suspect my STBxH of having a degree of depression thrown in with the suspected ASD, but due to his behaviour patterns, in the 10 years that we have lived where we do, he has never registered with a GP (or dentist, or seen an optician - he wears glasses/contacts) so even if he could acknowledge the problem he couldn't actually access care for it, without several big steps first.

I however now feel guilty that DD will feel responsible for his care in the future and have to deal with this behaviour, i can't put that all on her, so guess i will be burdened forever to some degree.

I however now feel guilty that DD will feel responsible for his care in the future and have to deal with this behaviour, i can't put that all on her, so guess i will be burdened forever to some degree.

Why should either of you be burdened?
Teach her that she does NOT have to look after him, because he is an adult who can do it himself.

Periperi2025 · 25/09/2025 11:27

EuclidianGeometryFan · 25/09/2025 11:24

I however now feel guilty that DD will feel responsible for his care in the future and have to deal with this behaviour, i can't put that all on her, so guess i will be burdened forever to some degree.

Why should either of you be burdened?
Teach her that she does NOT have to look after him, because he is an adult who can do it himself.

Well yes i can try and do that, and i will, but she loves her dad and you only have to read a few of the elderly parents threads on here to realise that it is rarely that straightforward.

mbosnz · 25/09/2025 11:39

Do you know the very old song, 'There's a hole in my bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza', OP? You and your husband sound very like this song. . . I always thought, right from when I was a wee tot, singing this song at primary school, that personally I would have hit bloody Geordie over the head with the goddamned bucket. . . you entirely have my sympathy. He's a right lazy sod who can't even be bothered to even think for himself - he knows you'll do it for him, as a matter of necessity. I honestly think that if I were the capable, responsible person you clearly are, I'd leave the bastard, so at least he no longer benefitted from my hard work.

moderate · 25/09/2025 11:42

mbosnz · 25/09/2025 11:39

Do you know the very old song, 'There's a hole in my bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza', OP? You and your husband sound very like this song. . . I always thought, right from when I was a wee tot, singing this song at primary school, that personally I would have hit bloody Geordie over the head with the goddamned bucket. . . you entirely have my sympathy. He's a right lazy sod who can't even be bothered to even think for himself - he knows you'll do it for him, as a matter of necessity. I honestly think that if I were the capable, responsible person you clearly are, I'd leave the bastard, so at least he no longer benefitted from my hard work.

Geordie? Henry.
This guy doesn't even try as hard as Henry/Geordie though!

> When I would ask him why he didn't order them, the response was "I don't know!".

mbosnz · 25/09/2025 11:47

Henry - of course, thank you!

JHound · 25/09/2025 12:11

He has been like this for 34 years.

Why do you expect him to randomly change?

JHound · 25/09/2025 12:15

Sam9769 · 23/09/2025 00:19

No, he's never wanted to do any DIY. It's nothing to do with retirement I'm afraid.
On one occasion, many years ago he was having a problem with his car.
He knew how to fix it but rather than do that, he put exposed wires into sandwich bags to keep them dry!

No, he was very keen on move into this new house. The agreement was that we would pay the trades to do the jobs we couldn't do and we would do the remainder together.
If I didn't push him, nothing at all would get done.
If I left and came back in 10 years time, the house would be exactly as it is now.
His sister told me years ago that when he was a student, he wouldn't do his essays until the night before they were due.

No, he's never wanted to do any DIY. It's nothing to do with retirement I'm afraid.

So then what are you whining about? He has shown you who he is for 34 years? Why are you expecting him to change?