Trump on autism

[BeHappySloth]

Sorry if there is another thread - I did look.

I mean, wtf??!!

I have a condition where the genes are very similar to Autism and virtually everyone with this condition will have Autism too. Those of us who are adults were usually diagnosed with Autism first

I have an undiagnosed condition which my consultant believes is de novo. (Random) At my last appointment, my consultant asked my mum about her pregnancy with me and my birth, etc. Mum said it was all normal

I suspect we'll never find the cause and I do believe given how varied the spectrum is there are numerous causes for it

It’s simple money!

I’m the same . 30 year old with autism. I didn’t ever take alcohol or paracetamol and ate only organic food . The stuff he’s saying about vaccines is terrifying because people will listen. So sad.

Now here’s a thing autism was first recognised as a condition in 1943. Paracetamol first hit the market as an off prescription medication in 1956! The increase in autism has nothing to do with paracetamol but the fact that there’s a far better understanding of it and diagnosis is far better! I was at school with girls who if they were at school now would almost certainly be diagnosed with autism and the same goes for my brother!

I shake my head at "posters" blaming the Democrats for electing Trump. Republicans have always talked about personal responsibility.....except when it's politically better to blame the Democrats to excuse/justify the president they elected and the sheer stupidities coming out of his mouth.

They elected an idiot knowing the big business control him. They also elected a wannabe dictator, which is what the Republicans have wanted for decades in the US. And they have him. They elected him.

I feel so sorry for the millions of Americans, understanding their country is becoming the dictatorship their founding fathers never wanted it to be.

Yes, although for accuracy there's a bit more to the story

The precursors to paracetamol (acetaminophen) were two compounds developed in the 19th century: acetanilide and phenacetin. Here's a quick overview:
🔬 1. Acetanilide (discovered ~1886)
Origin: First synthesized in the 1850s but introduced as an antipyretic (fever reducer) in the 1880s.
Use: One of the earliest synthetic fever reducers and pain relievers.
Problems: Caused toxic side effects like methemoglobinemia (reduces oxygen delivery by red blood cells).
💊 2. Phenacetin (introduced ~1887)
Developed from: Acetanilide, with fewer side effects.
Use: Widely used for decades in over-the-counter remedies (e.g., APC tablets: aspirin, phenacetin, caffeine).
Withdrawn: Banned in many countries by the 1980s due to links with kidney damage and cancer.
✅ 3. Paracetamol (Acetaminophen)
Metabolite of both acetanilide and phenacetin.
Discovered: First synthesized in 1877 but largely overlooked until the mid-20th century.
Adopted widely: In the 1950s after its safety and efficacy were better understood.
Now: One of the most widely used pain and fever medications globally.
In short:
👉 Acetanilide → Phenacetin → Paracetamol
Paracetamol emerged as the safer and more effective descendant of these earlier drugs.
Acetanalide was phased out by the 1940s

I wish people would stop posting ChatGPT slop.

Him
If his lips are moving he is lying

Agreed my son has de novo chromosome deletion, that the geneticist think is an underlying cause of his autism/ learning disabilities
Many people with the same or similar deletion, s have a diagnosis of, but as you know the spectrum is huge and impacts everyone differently
But not everyone with same or similar deletion s will have autism and not everyone with autism will have a chromosome deletion/ abnormality.

Is this the same Donald Trump that said injecting yourself with disinfectant would rid you of Covid?

Acetaminophen will deplete glutathione when taken in excess. It's not a secret that a paracetamol overdose will damage the liver and is extremely dangerous when taken in excess. Used, as advised, it is a safe and effective option. Not following recommended dosages and taking other medications containing paracetamol changes this.

Paracetamol, taken after vaccination for fever or pain is also a safe option.

A 24 year (plus follow up) cohort study published last year, which has been mentioned already on this thread, concluded that there was no evidence that paracetamol use during pregnancy was associated with autism, ADHD or intellectual disability. This study also took into account previously absent confounders so I'd rather accept this over two buffoons with zero medical qualifications with an agenda and their months long 'research' 🤷‍♀️

This is completely non-scientific (and I realise this makes me sound no better than Trump) 🤡 but I wonder if it is a kind of natural mutation/adaptation to TMI, by which I mean too much information/stimulation in the world around us, especially post internet.

Oh, and expanded prescribing protocols.

Meh.
"Thousands of peer-reviewed, high-quality studies involving hundreds of thousands of people and decades vaccines given to millions of people have shown that for the overwhelming majority of people, vaccines are safe"

www.chop.edu/vaccine-education-center/science-history/vaccine-science/common-questions-about-vaccine-liability

He'll be be banning all pain relief for pregnant women including during labour. Gilead here we come.

True this is just a step towards blaming women directly.

Isn’t it strange that pretty much the only drug that can be taken by a pregnant women for pain relief is the cause of Autism.

They want women to suffer and they want women with autistic children to feel guilt.

Even if the baby’s father displays a list of autistic traits, it won’t be that - it’s because you took a pill to bring down a fever.

This is defo Gilead shit. Can also already see the ‘sane washers’ in the thread attempting to make this announcement seem reasonable and encouraging people to do ‘their own research’.

Crazy? They've 'gotten away' with not purposely exposing children to diseases that can kill them. "Trained everyone"? 🙄

It is perfectly reasonable to use established vaccines as the 'placebo' when testing a newer version of the same vaccine. Completely unethical and unnecessary to expose children to the disease when there is no need.

'True science'? 😂

It’s all to make them money The rich get Ritchier and the Poor get poorer, they will have bought shares in the company

Here is the conclusion of that 2021 study you linked to...

Conclusions
Increases could be due to growth in prevalence or, more likely, increased reporting and application of diagnosis. Rising diagnosis among adults, females and higher functioning individuals suggest augmented recognition underpins these changes.

There is a well documented prevalence of ADHD in the prison population.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/jun/18/uk-prisoners-attention-deficit-disorder-adhd-prison?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

There are a lot of children who can't get places in them though. I think it is a bit area dependent but where I am we have children who should clearly be in special school, stuck in mainstream, even at secondary, because there is nowhere else for them to go. Also, parents were given the right to choose to keep them in mainstream and I've known a few cases where barely verbal children have been kept in mainstream because that's what their parents want.

"Horrific rise"??? That poster you quoted sounds deranged, like Adolf Hitler when he was planning the Aktion T4 program that murdered over 275000 children and adults with developmental disabilities.

The first victim was an 8 year old autistic kid.

They need to watch their language. There's nothing wrong with being autistic, it isn't a plague.

Governments need to stop looking for shaman cures and start looking for new ways to support autistics in every area of life. 5* care and support services should be the goal.

Otherwise we'll end up like Iceland, Finland, etc where they boast about eliminating disabilities via coerced abortions and euthanisising autistic adults, while rapists, pedos and murderers get to live in 5* prison accommodation and luxury housing on release.

Special school places have been limited for years, there is nowhere near enough SEN provision available for every child with an EHCP. Nor would there need to be.

The idea is that mainstream education is supposed to have become more inclusive so children who can attend them, do, with support in place.

Some mainstreams are additionally resourced, have bases/hubs, and they all get funding to meet the needs of SENd children.

Children who are able to stay in mainstream with that support package should be able to. The real travesty is that mainstream schools receive that money and then don’t use it to meet need.

If a school genuinely can’t meet need, even with the extra funding - as they couldn’t with my son, then that child needs moving to a suitable placement.

Agreed.

Anyone who thinks there’s been a “horrific rise” in children like my son can get firmly in the fucking bin.

Haven't read or watched anything about what Trump has said. When i was pregnant 40 years ago i was warned not to take paracetamol, has that advice changed ?

This is precisely what I foresee happening. And with everything else this absolute stain and his posse of scientifically illiterate misogynist twerps are doing, I can see pre-natal mother and infant mortality rates rocketing.