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Trump on autism

694 replies

BeHappySloth · 22/09/2025 21:59

Sorry if there is another thread - I did look.

I mean, wtf??!!

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KentCatLady · 23/09/2025 09:13

It's just another cynical way to control pregnant women, by denying them cheap and safe pain relief!

viques · 23/09/2025 09:15

Clearly politic’s gain has been medicine’s loss. I mean look how we all survived Covid by mainlining household bleach on his advice.

MySweetMaggie · 23/09/2025 09:21

MeTooOverHere · 23/09/2025 09:01

And I specifically said - and I ask you again - you want to risk them getting measles?

You are actually suggesting that people's kids be left exposed to the virus (and no one knows which kids are vaxxed and which are not) to see if there is any difference. How is this ethical?

"You would have to give half the kids non-vaccines. So you want to risk them getting eg measles or diptheria. That's your solution. Let half the kids get measles and let's see how that works out."

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I don't want anyone's children exposed to anything or risking anything. I am looking forward to seeing the results of the scientific studies into causes of autism. However they do those studies I'm sure will be ethical and interesting. I have never been vaccinated for measles, nobody was when I was young, so the majority of us had it at a young age. I'm not saying that's good or bad, just a fact. I'm not saying anyone should have it now, or be exposed to it.

You seem to be trying to accuse me of things or get a gotcha with me. It's strange. I look forward to finding out more about the causes of autism via scientific study. That seems sensible to me.....to you it doesn't. Ok.

BeHappySloth · 23/09/2025 09:21

Swiftie1878 · 23/09/2025 09:06

Oh, I totally get that. I have zero expectations of the Republicans - they are the lunatics in the asylum. I have high expectations of those who should be running the asylum, and they let the world down.

The American people collectively chose to put the lunatics in charge, though.

Kamala Harris may not have been the most shining example of a presidential candidate ever, and yes, it was an utter shambles before Biden stood down, but he did stand down and whether you rated Harris or not, there was a viable alternative. A better alternative, even if it was not ideal.

The Republicans chose Trump. The American people chose Trump. It didn't ever have to be that way.

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YourBrickTiger · 23/09/2025 09:24

DinaofCloud9 · 22/09/2025 22:31

This doesn't make sense. The Republicans didn't need to pick a better candidate as the one they had was better than the Democrats candidate.

It's on the Democrats that they couldn't beat Trump.

There is nothing that will ever convince me that he was a better candidate. The man is absolutely insane and dangerous to boot. They just didn't want to elect a black woman.

I'm sick to death of Republicans completely denying everything and blaming Obama because they can't admit that their president is a sex offending mysogynistic felon.

TooTooMuchEverything · 23/09/2025 09:27

Swiftie1878 · 23/09/2025 08:44

US citizens voted for him. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Twice. Fucking hell.

Hoppinggreen · 23/09/2025 09:31

MrsSkylerWhite · 22/09/2025 23:13

Oh, here they come.

Properly investigating? Trump and Kennedy?

Don’t be ridiculous.

I would trust my dog to properly investigate the links between paracetamol and autism over Trump and the drug addled loon Kennedy

hobbledyhoy · 23/09/2025 09:32

I’d bet my last fiver he and his cronies have money invested in pharmaceuticals that will be pushed as the ‘alternative.’ He makes money yet again from others death and misery, without a shred of guilt.

Power, status and money, that’s his aim and I’m fucking mystified as to why people vote against their own interests.

YourBrickTiger · 23/09/2025 09:32

What's going to happen when he is sued? He's building a ballroom, don't you know?

SleeplessInWherever · 23/09/2025 09:34

I’m watching it now.

As the parent of a child with significantly complex needs, including autism - I’m not sure I’ve ever been more offended.

BeHappySloth · 23/09/2025 09:35

YourBrickTiger · 23/09/2025 09:24

There is nothing that will ever convince me that he was a better candidate. The man is absolutely insane and dangerous to boot. They just didn't want to elect a black woman.

I'm sick to death of Republicans completely denying everything and blaming Obama because they can't admit that their president is a sex offending mysogynistic felon.

It's funny, I never see anyone blaming Trump and the Republicans for the fact that Biden was elected, but it is always the fault of the Democrats that we ended up with Trump.

I do think that Kamala Harris being both black and female was a barrier. Nikki Haley faced similar barriers in the race to be the Republican candidate.

It is simply mind blowing to think that the Republicans thought Trump was their best option. But they presumably thought this because they believed that a substantial proportion of the electorate would find his far right rhetoric appealing. And they were right.

The people who voted for him are ultimately responsible. We get the governments we deserve. Sadly, in the case of the US, the rest of the world has to suffer as a result of the decisions taken by far right American voters.

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SixSeven · 23/09/2025 09:38

The Dems need to come up with an amazing candidate asap, otherwise next up will be President Vance.

I fail to see why either party can’t find anyone much younger than 80. Absolutely batshit. I miss Obama.

CautiousLurker01 · 23/09/2025 09:40

What worries me most is that there are enough idiots out there who will take his pronouncement as the gospel truth and no matter how much scientifically supported evidence you present to explain that Trump and Kennedy know fuck all about it, the myth will grow and become an alternative truth.

Just what mothers need. As if we aren’t made to feel guilty enough already…

YourBrickTiger · 23/09/2025 09:41

BeHappySloth · 23/09/2025 09:35

It's funny, I never see anyone blaming Trump and the Republicans for the fact that Biden was elected, but it is always the fault of the Democrats that we ended up with Trump.

I do think that Kamala Harris being both black and female was a barrier. Nikki Haley faced similar barriers in the race to be the Republican candidate.

It is simply mind blowing to think that the Republicans thought Trump was their best option. But they presumably thought this because they believed that a substantial proportion of the electorate would find his far right rhetoric appealing. And they were right.

The people who voted for him are ultimately responsible. We get the governments we deserve. Sadly, in the case of the US, the rest of the world has to suffer as a result of the decisions taken by far right American voters.

I have a very good friend who is a Republican and Trump voter. I love her to bits and she is one of the, if not the, kindest person I know. We get on so well, until the subject of politics comes up. I was talking to her last night and she supported Charlie Kirk. Said she has become undone by those who are celebrating his death. I didn't know what to say. I find it so disturbing that anyone could support that man's values. I'm best not getting into it with her.

Muffsies · 23/09/2025 09:42

Greysowhat · 23/09/2025 06:29

It's such a ridiculous theory and so full of holes! Let's be comforted by the fact that only the dimwits will believe it.

Yes, that's comforting.

Wait. How many dimwits, and people who want to control dimwits, are there in the US?

Clonakilla · 23/09/2025 09:42

MySweetMaggie · 23/09/2025 01:35

I'll probably cop a lot of abuse on here.....but, if there are several causes for autism, and RFK Jr is going to do a deep dive and find out possible causes (environmental, pharmaceutical, etc), why wouldn't you want to know? At the moment, there are no true placebo studies that show the side effects of the childhood vaccine schedule - the studies used shots with adjuvants in them or against other vaccines, not saline. It would be good to see those results surely? If they show nothing, then that's great. Then they could test some other things and find out what's happening. Bracing to get smashed for even suggesting anything so sensible 😂

You clearly have zero idea
of the reality of testing of pharmaceutical
products, I’m embarrassed for you even reading this.

ThePinkPoster · 23/09/2025 09:44

He’s just so THICK isn’t he? How the hell did America end up having to choose between a man with raging dementia and a man with no discernible brain cells to start with?

CheeseNPickle3 · 23/09/2025 09:44

I don't think you can categorically say that there's been an increase in autism over time because there have been so many changes in diagnosis and medicine and in society in general.

Most people accept that there's a strong genetic link. I've often heard of parents getting diagnosed at the same time as their children. The parents have always been autistic so that's a childhood case from the past that was missed.

More children survive who are born premature. Better antenatal care picks up problems earlier. I think there's a higher incidence of autism among these children but I'm not sure.

Looking back there were several children I went to school with who would have had a diagnosis of dyslexia or ADHD if they were children now. As PP have also said, those who obviously had issues were educated separately, if at all.

I think STEM subjects are usually more attractive to those with autism. Women were actively discouraged from these in the past - less so now - so engineers and mathematicians are meeting and marrying each other. This might actually increase the number of autistic children, but I'd hope nobody would suggest that women shouldn't study or work in STEM fields.

Going back 50+ years there was less automation so jobs required more people to do. Thinking of something like farming or factory work, there would have been a role for someone who had left school with no qualifications who was "different". No diagnosis needed or available.

None of these require a particular drug to cause autism and removing paracetemol as a painkiller doesn't leave much that's safe or tested to use during pregnancy. Even if it's not intended to be about blaming women for anything they do/eat/take during pregnancy it always seems to end up that way.

Oldandcrustynz · 23/09/2025 09:44

Don't forget the most unqualified, unsuitable and downright dangerous Secretary of Health in recent memory, Robert F. Kennedy Jr! The amount of death, danger and general mayhem on that man's watch will be his lasting legacy. I'm sure Papa will be proud. Getting back to the petulant, mummified scrotum that is POTUS -- well, burn my biscuits folks, are we really surprised? As a final initiative, I would like all the asshats who stood proudly today at the announcement of this revelation to wear a bowling ball strapped around their pelvic region for the next 40 weeks and have no access to any pain relief whatsoever.

KimberleyClark · 23/09/2025 09:45

YourBrickTiger · 23/09/2025 09:24

There is nothing that will ever convince me that he was a better candidate. The man is absolutely insane and dangerous to boot. They just didn't want to elect a black woman.

I'm sick to death of Republicans completely denying everything and blaming Obama because they can't admit that their president is a sex offending mysogynistic felon.

And he won the first time because they didn’t want to elect a white woman.

phoenixrosehere · 23/09/2025 09:47

BeHappySloth · 23/09/2025 09:35

It's funny, I never see anyone blaming Trump and the Republicans for the fact that Biden was elected, but it is always the fault of the Democrats that we ended up with Trump.

I do think that Kamala Harris being both black and female was a barrier. Nikki Haley faced similar barriers in the race to be the Republican candidate.

It is simply mind blowing to think that the Republicans thought Trump was their best option. But they presumably thought this because they believed that a substantial proportion of the electorate would find his far right rhetoric appealing. And they were right.

The people who voted for him are ultimately responsible. We get the governments we deserve. Sadly, in the case of the US, the rest of the world has to suffer as a result of the decisions taken by far right American voters.

What’s unfortunate is many people warned them what would happen if Trump was elected again and they thought because he was targeting others, the people they wanted to blame for their own shortcomings, they wouldn’t be in the crossfire.

People rather suffer to be right than thrive and be wrong.

YourBrickTiger · 23/09/2025 09:48

ThePinkPoster · 23/09/2025 09:44

He’s just so THICK isn’t he? How the hell did America end up having to choose between a man with raging dementia and a man with no discernible brain cells to start with?

I feel like he gets out of bed in the morning and just says the first thing that comes into his stupid fat head. The way he speaks, the way he expresses himself, it's cringeworthy. A world leader needs to speak like a world leader. It's so embarrassing. Surely it can't go on for the next 4 years?

CautiousLurker01 · 23/09/2025 09:48

ThePinkPoster · 23/09/2025 09:44

He’s just so THICK isn’t he? How the hell did America end up having to choose between a man with raging dementia and a man with no discernible brain cells to start with?

Because the US is misogynistic and racist?

As Jefferson said, the government you elect is the government you deserve.

oneoneone · 23/09/2025 09:50

MySweetMaggie · 23/09/2025 04:05

He is head of the agency who employ people specifically because they have the correct qualifications to conduct clinical studies.

I have a Bachelor of Health Science, but have never run my own scientific study as I work in a different field, not a lab.

He has fired pretty much everyone with qualifications. Many of the others have quit due to be unable to support his unscientific theories and methods.

Hoppinggreen · 23/09/2025 09:50

Clonakilla · 23/09/2025 09:42

You clearly have zero idea
of the reality of testing of pharmaceutical
products, I’m embarrassed for you even reading this.

I know
Placebo studies for vaccines on children? That would be incredibly unethical and nobody would do it (apart from the orange idiot maybe)

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