Trump on autism

[BeHappySloth]

Sorry if there is another thread - I did look.

I mean, wtf??!!

I'd ignore. Trump has all the anti-vaxxers wetting themselves with excitement today

A very very dangerous man, I believe he hates women

Mothers guilt! My rational mind knows it’s nothing I did

He did blame it on vaccines too, at the very end of the interview

That's because there isn't any link between anyone taking pain relief and autism.

I hope he gets sued. The trouble is that even if/when he's proved to be wrong, loads of his supporters will still believe him and claim it's all a conspiracy. Trump is an ignorant and dangerous man with too much power and he's determined to become even more powerful. It was a sad day for us all when he got elected .

I can't bear to see or hear more than a few seconds of Trump so didn't watch the whole news item - did I hear him say that women should "tough it out" in relation to having a fever?

Trump is also a senile old man, so your point makes no sense. Also, the Americans could have voted for Kamala. People get the government they deserve.

He made several attempts to pronounce the generic name and couldn’t. So then went with a brand name. Mind boggling not to sort it out before.

The FDA has warned of a possible association. That would obviously warrant more research.

Only yesterday I saw an article where scientists said they'd found gene markers for several 'psychiatric conditions', including ADHD and ASC. Anecdotally, it's patently related to genes as it runs in families and is far more common in babies born to older fathers, in particular.

I had flu in my first trimester and alternated both drugs for about 2-3 days. My DS does not have ASC. I would suggest he'd have come to more harm if I'd allowed myself to stay up at the 103/104 degrees my body was running at!

I thought the older father theory was because they usually have Autism themselves

Not heard the old sperm theory

I think it’s also the environment which is making autism more noticeable.

For example, classrooms are overwhelming, there’s too much stimulation, bright colours, transitions, school trips, screens, expectations for group work etc. It was a lot easier when you just sat individually at a desk and listened to the teacher.

Especially as he ‘d already been President once and was so bad that a senile old man was elected to replace him.

Oh that one’s well understood:

www.kcl.ac.uk/archive/news/ioppn/records/2013/march/older-grandfathers-autism-risk

Probably. I turned over for the same reason you did. His face and his voice turn my stomach. And what he says is sickening too.

Oh, wouldn’t it be wonderful!

Good point. I used to teach and went to a training day once. The teacher there set up a lesson designed to stimulate and inspire everyone in a class. There were tactile objects on the table, background music, visual displays and things to read. She was also moving around, talking, giving instructions and encouragement etc. I felt so overwhelmed I could have cried. I'm not autistic.

Really hope this doesn't prevent women taking paracetamol for fever in pregnancy, fever is much more dangerous to your baby than a few doses of painkiller.
I'm neurodivergent and my son is an exact copy of me as a child in behaviour so pretty sure it's genetic..

I can't bear him. Why is it the women's 'fault' every fucking time!!!

I have 2 kids with 2 different dads. Took paracetamol in both pregnancies. Both vaccinated to the hilt 😁 My ex husband is most definitely autistic, and my eldest is AuDHD. My youngest is NT. Me and my husband and NT. It is genetic. It's no one's fault.

My eldest is amazing, both my kids are, but we had a rough road at times. We didn't, and don't, need a cure for him. He doesn't need to be cured. We needed some understanding from school, some useable support strategies, a diagnosis before the age of 20 (that I didn't have to pay for), access to ADHD meds on the NHS, a wait list that is not 4 years long, mental health support, and a society that accommodate difference.

Fuck Trump

Notice how it's only the fault of women taking Tylenol in pregnancy. No mention of men being at fault for taking it at the point of conception...

(But it's all bollocks anyway)

You must have a very selective memory. I happened to go to smallish schools on the whole, with class sizes between around 10 and 25. In the primary school we had no real idea of the others' levels but were aware of the ones who were really slow with reading out loud and never knew the answers to questions. In secondary we were given exam results in lists, and I can distinctly remember there were various children who were consistently at the end of those lists. With hindsight, I'm sure at least one was dyslexic and the others had information processing problems.

When it comes to autism, of course, children may not struggle academically, especially in subjects like science and maths. Are you really sure that there was absolutely no-one you knew who was regarded as being, perhaps, a bit geeky or a bit of a loner? I know that sounds simplistic, but, looking back, I can easily identify which of my school contemporaries were highly likely to be autistic and/or to have ADHD

There are two sides to the immune system and there are some people who think that vaccinations also have an effect on the side of the immune system that deals with more chronic conditions such as sinus and allergies. It will be good to have some definitive answers on the incidence of those conditions after vaccination. It may turn out to be as you guess, which is no effect.

I agree and that is what I am saying. He takes a scientific study that shows some links correlation or causation not proven that need further investigation and study but has interesting themes and is valuable in itself. There were lots from fairly legitimate sources even years ago. That’s what is so dangerous. I was offered paracetamol throughout my pregnancy and knowing of these early studies I didn’t take paracetamol as I made an informed judgement. If I had had a fever I would have taken it. I knew it was likely a correlation but I could ‘muddle through’ so I did. I take all vaccines and so do my kids.

I despise trump and think he is so dangerous but you can see the pattern that will now hook people in. Oh it was the paracetamol they took at the time of vaccines now.

I also think that these threads are getting derailed talking about different levels of autism that I think should be categorised differently. Severe autism (I know we can’t use this) with highly physically impaired, emotionally disturbed, mute, self harming but wonderful and loved children that need high levels of support should be investigated and researched separately and often is much more severe than previous family history has been (close family experience). Saying ‘my uncle and dad had it’ or ‘it’s part of his personality’ really doesn’t account for the many children who severe autism symptoms destroy their lives and are not part of their personality but a series of symptoms that hinder and disturb them day in day out.

Agree. We are massively overstimulated as a society now and so of course that's going to have profound impact on those who can't regulate against sound and noise. My partner is a primary school teacher and he deals daily with pupils with autism who find the classroom overwhelming and triggering.

I would agree but sadly cunt is far too good for him.