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Farage promises to deport people with ILR

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Acidburn · 22/09/2025 12:21

Posting in AIBU for traffic.
Nigel Farage stated he would deport anyone with existing indefinite leave to remain. We are talking about millions of people.
This terrifying. If people live here, work here, have kids and mortgages - where are they supposed to go?

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AzurePanda · 22/09/2025 15:05

Why don’t you start a thread discussing what is actually proposed rather than something completely made up?

YourGoldSheep · 22/09/2025 15:05

I don't think this is the case, a different article said this will apply for any future applications

EasternStandard · 22/09/2025 15:06

CoreyFlood · 22/09/2025 15:02

My husband has ILR. Brexit really knocked him for six, as after nearly 20 years here he felt unwelcome. He’s paid tax the whole time, never claimed a thing, and does a valuable job.
If they make him jump thru more hoops, or actually even in Reform get in, he said they can go fuck themselves and were going to live in his home country ( where he’s not lived since he was 19).
He’s dark and doesn’t look British, and getting increasingly anxious about the rhetoric in the country and how safe it’s going to be for people like him.
After living his adult life here, contributing and grafting. There’s no way he would want citizenship of a country that would see no value in him.
I don’t blame him and I will 100% pack up and move if it comes to it.
Immigration ( legal and otherwise) has been very badly handled in the UK for years, but the people bearing the brunt of all the fuck ups are running your favourite restaurant, operating your radiotherapy machine, caring for your elderly. It’s a disgrace this is even a conversation.

He does have the option for citizenship but if he’s really against it do you have an idea of where you would go?

PandoraSocks · 22/09/2025 15:06

YourGoldSheep · 22/09/2025 15:05

I don't think this is the case, a different article said this will apply for any future applications

No, it applies to people with existing ILR also.

IceLollyMolly · 22/09/2025 15:07

bombastix · 22/09/2025 15:01

I think the point is that Farage thinks he does not have to give a settlement route with the ability to work in the UK. These people will still support the UK tax take but with no ability to use public services and a high degree of control can be given on these visas.

There are other countries with similar arrangements. Switzerland would be one.

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Switzerland and the UAE. Both have low or zero taxes.

BunnyMcDougall · 22/09/2025 15:07

Naanspiration · 22/09/2025 14:56

Yes but this isn't America, the legal system here is slightly better. Not perfect, but better.

Our parliament and house of lords won't immediately bow down to every policy a prime minister tries to put through.

So it's not that I don't believe that Farage won't try to "do it". It's more that I have more faith in the British courts to uphold laws, human rights etc.

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You can say that the British system us “better” all you want. Until it’s not.

History tells us that the US system of 3, Co-equal branches of government, was implemented by former Brits who believed their new system was more foolproof than the British system.

Trump got control of all 3 branches, which was never supposed to happen. But it did. Farage is watching Trump’s playbook. I’m fact, he had lunch with Trump 2 or 3 weeks ago in DC.

usernamealreadytaken · 22/09/2025 15:08

MalinandGo · 22/09/2025 14:27

Here are UC statistics directly from the government.

In June 2025, 9.7% of people on UC were in the “EU Settlement Scheme” group. 2.7% of people on UC were in the “Indefinite Leave to Remain (not EU Settlement Scheme)” group. 1.5% of people on UC were in the “Refugee” group. 1.0% of people on UC were in the “Limited Leave to Remain (not EU Settlement Scheme) including family reunion” group. 0.7% of people on UC were in the “Humanitarian” group. 0.4% of people on UC were in the “Other” group

So even if you remove every single person with ILR, but not Settled Status (as Reform say they won't), you are in fact losing 2.7% of your UC bill at most. But then... 32% of this 2.7% are employed.

These threads are always full of people complaining that people aren't reading what Reform is actually saying but often without checking the statistics they are offering up themselves.

@charliehungerford your stats could relate to the number of people currently living in London who are first generation immigrants going back decades. Of new social housing lettings from 23-24, 76% were of White British ethnicity, and 81.6% overall were White, with White other making up 5%. New tenancies are broadly in line with the ethnic make up of the UK as a whole. In terms of nationality, 9% of new tenancies went to people from outside the EU, including 0.6% from Ukraine and 0.4% from Afghanistan. This is higher than the non-EU proportion of the UK population which is 3% and has doubled in the past three years. 87% of new tenants are UK nationals, slightly lower than the 91% percent of the population they comprise.

Overall a third of new lead tenants are in work, followed by carers, people unable to work through sickness, and pensioners. Only 13% are counted as unemployed and seeking work.

Social housing lettings in England, tenants: April 2023 to March 2024 - GOV.UK

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OP specifically said “some areas of London”.

Data from the 2021 census suggests this figure may refer to just one small area of London. The census records people who describe themselves as being ‘born outside of the UK’ (rather than ‘foreign nationals’). Although 76% of ‘household reference people’ in a small area of Ealing living in social housing said they were born outside the UK, the figure for London as a whole was much smaller, at just under 48%.
In total, 376,754 ‘household reference people’ who lived in social housing (either through a local council or housing association) in London said they were born outside the UK, compared to 414,205 who were born in the UK. A household reference person is a term used in the census to refer to a person who serves as a reference point to characterise a whole household (which can be one person living alone, or multiple people living together).
Some London boroughs have higher percentages than this. The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said, when broken down by local authority, Brent has the highest percentage of people living in social housing who were born abroad, at 61%. Westminster and Haringey were also around 60%.

Country of birth (uk) and tenure of household - Office for National Statistics

https://www.ons.gov.uk/datasets/create/filter-outputs/8a666c4c-ce32-46b6-8a2b-4dfb7350ce61#get-data

inae · 22/09/2025 15:08

sparklingpleasedear · 22/09/2025 14:59

This would also effect EU citizens with right to remain, wouldn’t it? Since right to remain is essentially the same as ILR?

ILR is very different from the settled status of EU citizens, which is protected by the withdrawal agreement.

Farage is not stupid; he's a power-hungry jackal (and a jackass too), capitalizing on the far-right sentiment happening across the world. He uses immigrants as a scapegoat to mask the failings of the UK government and grab the power.

Donttellempike · 22/09/2025 15:09

Friendlygingercat · 22/09/2025 12:40

In the past too many people have been allowed in and granted British passports and citizenship. Many of these people are not net contributers because they bring in unproductive dependents who are using schools, the health service, housing and so on. They should only have been allowed in as single guest workers and with all the restrictions on use of facilities that that implies. There are now too many people in this country. When I was a child in the 1950s our population was around 50 million. Now its appriaching 70 million many of whom are not economically active.

rubbish. We need immigrants.

Without them, anyone under 40 can forget about a state pension

Fartage is spouting racist bullshit. And people lap it up

Timeforabitofpeace · 22/09/2025 15:09

Dont believe half of what he says.

FGS, never vote for him.

MissPoor · 22/09/2025 15:09

BundleBoogie · 22/09/2025 12:48

From the BBC:

Yusuf said the changes would lead to "hundreds of thousands of people having to apply and ultimately losing their settled status in the UK".
"Many of those who will lose their leave to remain are entirely dependent on the welfare state and will leave voluntarily upon losing access to benefits," he said.

It appears that this is targeted at non EU nationals (they have different protections) that haven’t managed to find legitimate employment and are on benefits. I would say that if it hasn’t worked out for someone who has gone over here and they are not able to ‘pay their way’, then they should be told to leave. Our benefits system already costs an eye watering amount - we can’t afford to finance an ever growing number of people.

They also need to sort out the rapidly growing number of ‘cash only’ high street businesses, run by non English men, often ‘humble barbers’ with very quiet shops but driving expensive cars. My friends DS has already been caught up in money laundering with one of the several barbers in our tiny high street.

My friends DS has already been caught up in money laundering with one of the several barbers in our tiny high street.

If you don’t mind, please could you share some more information on this please? How did they get him involved - was it a form of grooming? Edited to add - absolutely no joke implied with the grooming reference! I’m genuinely interested / concerned about something similar!

Cheeseismyfavourite · 22/09/2025 15:10

Oh this should be interesting. PIL are Farage flag shaggers except FIL was not born here, I’m not even sure if he has leave to remain. Lots of racist posts on their facebooks about only looking after their own, send them back etc. He doesn’t seem to understand that some people he stands with want him deported, he’s got brown skin and a foreign sounding name. I wonder if MIL will go with him?

FlyMeSomewhere · 22/09/2025 15:10

usernamealreadytaken · 22/09/2025 13:28

Would you object to having to fill in a form every five years?

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I think people need an end goal, I've looked into retirement to few different countries where there's no monetary demands but for the first 5 years you renew an annual visa but after that you are then allowed to apply for permanent residency. People need to feel they can relax and settle at some point

IceLollyMolly · 22/09/2025 15:10

PandoraSocks · 22/09/2025 15:06

No, it applies to people with existing ILR also.

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Very unclear. As are Labour's plans..Both Zia Yusuf and Yvette Cooper have said they do not rule out retrospective application of immigration rules.
I do not know a country in the world which takes visa fees, surcharges, a life in the UK test fee and then says " Oops". Indefinite Leave to Remain means a limited period that we will tell you about later.

ReyRey12 · 22/09/2025 15:10

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 22/09/2025 14:58

I would guess it's because EU citizens who moved to the UK before the end of 2020 are protected under the withdrawal agreement.

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Oh yeah, makes sense!

Smilingintherain · 22/09/2025 15:11

If you are a higher rate tax payer and chose not to apply for citizenship it implies by default that you didn't want to stay here long term.

If that is now not the case and you do want to stay, why not apply immediately to circumvent any future issues?

Greenwitchart · 22/09/2025 15:11

So I assume he will deport his German ex wife and his French girlfriend?

Farage is showing is true colour: he is nothing but a racist, xenophobic, lying little grafter.

RasaSayangEh · 22/09/2025 15:12

Whatever happened to "I'm not xenophobic, I'm only concerned about illegal immigrants"?

Now the goalposts have moved to "I'm concerned about even legal immigrants if they're the wrong sort", and even within this thread the goalposts are moving further to "I don't even want legal immigrants who display an insufficient level of obsequious gratitude" and to "I think it is a great idea to retrospectively change the status of legal immigrants in order to render them illegal, so I can polish my illegal-immigrant-concern halo."

Greenwitchart · 22/09/2025 15:12

So I assume he will deport his German ex wife and his French girlfriend?

Farage is showing is true colour: he is nothing but a racist, xenophobic, lying little grafter.

IceLollyMolly · 22/09/2025 15:12

Smilingintherain · 22/09/2025 15:11

If you are a higher rate tax payer and chose not to apply for citizenship it implies by default that you didn't want to stay here long term.

If that is now not the case and you do want to stay, why not apply immediately to circumvent any future issues?

Because Labour may extend the period of citizenship to 10 years. I am eligible next August but the rules may be changed by then.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 22/09/2025 15:12

Smilingintherain · 22/09/2025 15:11

If you are a higher rate tax payer and chose not to apply for citizenship it implies by default that you didn't want to stay here long term.

If that is now not the case and you do want to stay, why not apply immediately to circumvent any future issues?

I know someone who has been in the UK for almost 40 years and does not have British citizenship because it would require him to give up his original citizenship. He only has EU settled status.

bombastix · 22/09/2025 15:12

IceLollyMolly · 22/09/2025 15:07

Switzerland and the UAE. Both have low or zero taxes.

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Farage favours much lower rates of tax

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 22/09/2025 15:13

bombastix · 22/09/2025 15:12

Farage favours much lower rates of tax

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Farage is the kind of person who would be happy to let poor people die if they can't afford private healthcare.

isitmyturn · 22/09/2025 15:14

HelpMeUnpickThis · 22/09/2025 12:39

Thank you for posting on this @Acidburn

I saw the news article on this and felt quite worried (understatement).

I have been here as a skilled migrant for 25 years this year, and have ILR, 2 children and a now exH with Brit passports, DC settled at school, a mortgage, volunteering commitments in the community. No crimes, no fines - a person of good conduct. Highest rate tax payer.

To think they would revoke my ILR now is terrifying.

I hate Farage. I think he is honestly the first person I have truly hated and I dont even know him at all.

I hate how things are at the moment.

As I understood it ILTR is normally a temporary status pending full citizenship and you could apply for British citizenship after one year. Is this not correct?
Asking because a very good friend recently celebrated being granted citizenship.

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