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Charlie Kirks wife forgives the killer

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strangerandstranger · 21/09/2025 23:22

To people who said her husband was hateful and what they preached was hateful, she just forgave the killer, as God would. Powerful speech.

The messed up young man who thought shooting man he didn't like was the answer, will go to prison and no longer be with his boyfriend. Erika Kirk no longer has her husband and her children have list their father.

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aold · 22/09/2025 06:43

User37482 · 22/09/2025 05:19

This is really interesting, most practicing muslims believe that homosexuality is wrong and you’ll burn in hell for an eternity for it, much like some Christians. I assume we can declare muslims who believe this to be hateful facists and not feel sad if anyone murders them? I mean his views are not actually unusual for a religious person. At least he was happy to expose himself to dissent and actually went out and debated people, no his views don’t align with my own on many issues, especially abortion (I’m an atheist and the leading your wife stuff no thank you) but at least he had the balls to argue with people instead of just yelling and crying.

People have religious beliefs which should be fine in a tolerant society. Grown ups say “oh thats interesting, why do you think that? I don’t agree for xyz reason”. We are clearly living in times when your average adult has devolved into a giant screaming toddler who can’t tolerate anyone who disagrees with them.

Fuck me, perhaps it’s the end times.

it’s open season on Christians though. Other religions are off limits when it comes to debate.

RingoJuice · 22/09/2025 06:43

Shookethh · 22/09/2025 06:10

I’ve seen a lot of Christians on crime shows “forgive” the killer. But it’s not real. They act the same as someone who hasn’t forgiven and still want the death penalty.

Thank goodness they still have some sense. No point in forgiving those who don’t feel remorse.

I don’t feel I should tell a widow how to grieve but let’s just say I do not understand

awkwardasfuck · 22/09/2025 06:45

Shellyash · 22/09/2025 06:25

Credit to her, poor lady.

he wasn't preaching hate contrary to what many think. I've listened to a few of his speeches and he was stating his viewpoint, this is what upsets people.
Mostly people that preach Christianity get persecuted because it's aimed at conscience and that hurts. Think martyrs. RIP Charlie.

'If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because of affirmative action"

"Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge."

"prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact."

You dont think any of that is hate? Really? You stand by that?

lessee167 · 22/09/2025 06:47

aold · 22/09/2025 06:43

it’s open season on Christians though. Other religions are off limits when it comes to debate.

sorry but anyone who believes that is hateful. Their religion or skin colour or country of birth is irrelevant.

ExtraOnions · 22/09/2025 06:47

mjf981 · 22/09/2025 05:25

How bizarre.

It's been a week and a half since this man intentionally shot and killed her husband leaving her a widow and her young children without their father. And she has already forgiven him? How? Why?!

This is not normal behaviour. I find it very odd 😳

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It’s Performative… she has to say it, to continue the “Christian” narrative they all claim.

Nothing Christian about hateful views - our actions are more important than our words.

RingoJuice · 22/09/2025 06:48

awkwardasfuck · 22/09/2025 06:45

'If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because of affirmative action"

"Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge."

"prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact."

You dont think any of that is hate? Really? You stand by that?

You should listen to how Erika explains this. It’s a Christian concept of how to build a household. If you aren’t Christian (I am not) it’s probably not for you. Iirc Swift has a Christian background, as do most white Americans.

As for the so-called ‘racism’ are you American by any chance?

NoisyLittleOtter · 22/09/2025 06:49

strangerandstranger · 21/09/2025 23:32

He's dead, he was shot, she's in mourning but also forgiveness.

He is dead, yes. He was hateful in life.

ThatBlackCat · 22/09/2025 06:54

TheDogOnlyEatsBiscuitsIfTheyreDippedInTea · 22/09/2025 01:44

He said if his daughter was pregnant at aged 10 as a result of being raped, that ‘yes, the baby would be delivered’. Anyone that feels that way is mentally ill imo. You can not have healthy thought processes if you will let your belief of something take over your life so much that you are willing to let harm come to your actual existing fully formed young child for those beliefs.

As horrible as his views are, they are shared by many, many millions who are anti-abortion, many on the left even (yes, some on the left are anti abortion too). I am surprised by how many are shocked at his view, that it's such an anomaly. Guaranteed you know several people you work with/meet in day to day life that share that same belief on abortion. It's not one I share. But it is a mainstream opinion, and very common.

SweetPenelope · 22/09/2025 06:55

MrsSkylerWhite · 22/09/2025 01:14

He said he would want his (currently 10 year old) daughter to give birth to a child resulting from rape.
That tells me all I need to know about him as a father.
Disgraceful.

He doesn't have a ten year old daughter. She's 3 or 4 years old.

awkwardasfuck · 22/09/2025 06:55

RingoJuice · 22/09/2025 06:48

You should listen to how Erika explains this. It’s a Christian concept of how to build a household. If you aren’t Christian (I am not) it’s probably not for you. Iirc Swift has a Christian background, as do most white Americans.

As for the so-called ‘racism’ are you American by any chance?

Listen to how the submissive woman tries to explain her her husbands extreme racist views? Listen to yourself.

They are vile people, and their "Christian concept" is abhorrent. How does she explain kids getting shot being worth it for gun ownership. She's going to have to try everything she can now to stay relevant and it's tragic.

awkwardasfuck · 22/09/2025 06:55

SweetPenelope · 22/09/2025 06:55

He doesn't have a ten year old daughter. She's 3 or 4 years old.

Oh that makes it okay then 🙄

aold · 22/09/2025 06:56

ThatBlackCat · 22/09/2025 06:54

As horrible as his views are, they are shared by many, many millions who are anti-abortion, many on the left even (yes, some on the left are anti abortion too). I am surprised by how many are shocked at his view, that it's such an anomaly. Guaranteed you know several people you work with/meet in day to day life that share that same belief on abortion. It's not one I share. But it is a mainstream opinion, and very common.

and shared by many muslims, jews, catholics, christian’s and others the world over. A very common, mainstream argument. There are intellectual and philosophical arguments that abortion is the unlawful taking of a life.
I don’t believe this, I’m pro choice, but I understand and respect the alternative opinion.

Coolasfeck · 22/09/2025 06:59

Enough about these strange American fake Christians who worship guns, violence and money.

Nobody in the UK cared about CK the Youtube influencer fake Christian with weirdo opinions 3 weeks ago, and in 3 weeks he will be forgotten regardless of whether his wife has taken over (I thought he said women weren’t supposed to work?).

Stop trying to bring American BS, crazy politics, and fake Christianity here. We don’t want it.

aold · 22/09/2025 07:00

Coolasfeck · 22/09/2025 06:59

Enough about these strange American fake Christians who worship guns, violence and money.

Nobody in the UK cared about CK the Youtube influencer fake Christian with weirdo opinions 3 weeks ago, and in 3 weeks he will be forgotten regardless of whether his wife has taken over (I thought he said women weren’t supposed to work?).

Stop trying to bring American BS, crazy politics, and fake Christianity here. We don’t want it.

oh I bet you wish this was true. Wish hard enough and you can make it happen, right?
Wrong.

Tubs11 · 22/09/2025 07:05

Saying and feeling are two very different things.
In the aftermath of such tragedy you have no idea how you really feel, it will take her many years to know how she truly feels about his killer. Right now she is going through an array of emotions and this is one of them but it's not her final one.
It's very naive to believe that she or anyone could come to that conclusion within weeks.

Yardbird · 22/09/2025 07:08

User37482 · 22/09/2025 06:32

People are ascribing all sorts to a woman they don’t know. Maybe she loved her husband very much and is genuinely sad that someone murdered him, she has two small kids and is in the public eye. “Set up for life” yeah thats what I’d be thinking if DH was murdered and I was trying to explain that someone couldn’t tolerate him just saying stuff so they killed him to my devastated children. Can you imagine how his children must be feeling.

The complete lack of empathy here is shocking. I didn’t follow him but I do remember him saying he doesn’t use the word empathy because no-one really knows what it’s like to be in someone else’s shoes.

People have become degenerate. I’m actually disgusted tbh. This is facistic behaviour, killing of political opponents celebrated or dismissed.

I completely agree with you on some things. FWIW I thought he was a pretty great man - I was shocked and saddened at his death. I agree with lots of the commentary about him - he was always open to hearing other points of view, he held a lot of grace for people who didn’t agree with him, and while I didn’t align with much of what he said, it felt he was interested in other perspectives - i don’t think the American left has a true comparative figure.

Its also clear that he has now been martyred by the US government, which is literally the authoritarian playbook, and I think his wife must have a massive devils deal to do now between cashing out on this, or not - but as my understanding is that she was a trad wife (although lol to most of the rich America trad wives…) she doesn’t have much choice, so if she genuinely believes in god then I assume she believes He will see her right eventually.

RingoJuice · 22/09/2025 07:08

awkwardasfuck · 22/09/2025 06:55

Listen to how the submissive woman tries to explain her her husbands extreme racist views? Listen to yourself.

They are vile people, and their "Christian concept" is abhorrent. How does she explain kids getting shot being worth it for gun ownership. She's going to have to try everything she can now to stay relevant and it's tragic.

I am not Christian so need not worry about it. But she gives an explanation that is probably acceptable to most Christians.

Kirk was certainly not racist. But when 60% of the murders in my home country are committed by 13% of the population, a conversation needs to be had. He understood that. Our cowardly politicians will hide and say the most mealy mouthed things, anything to avoid being called a racist. It’s horrific.

tara66 · 22/09/2025 07:09

It seems to me to have been turned into an unseemly rodeo.

GarlicBreadStan · 22/09/2025 07:09

Yardbird · 22/09/2025 07:08

I completely agree with you on some things. FWIW I thought he was a pretty great man - I was shocked and saddened at his death. I agree with lots of the commentary about him - he was always open to hearing other points of view, he held a lot of grace for people who didn’t agree with him, and while I didn’t align with much of what he said, it felt he was interested in other perspectives - i don’t think the American left has a true comparative figure.

Its also clear that he has now been martyred by the US government, which is literally the authoritarian playbook, and I think his wife must have a massive devils deal to do now between cashing out on this, or not - but as my understanding is that she was a trad wife (although lol to most of the rich America trad wives…) she doesn’t have much choice, so if she genuinely believes in god then I assume she believes He will see her right eventually.

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A great man? Are you fucking deluded?

aold · 22/09/2025 07:10

RingoJuice · 22/09/2025 07:08

I am not Christian so need not worry about it. But she gives an explanation that is probably acceptable to most Christians.

Kirk was certainly not racist. But when 60% of the murders in my home country are committed by 13% of the population, a conversation needs to be had. He understood that. Our cowardly politicians will hide and say the most mealy mouthed things, anything to avoid being called a racist. It’s horrific.

nailed it

ThatCyanCat · 22/09/2025 07:18

I once met the mother and sister of a man who had been murdered in a racist attack. They were Christian and forgave the murderer. They are better people than I am. I don't have it in me. They did say that forgiveness is an ongoing process and you have to keep on doing it.

IWasScaredToBeHeld · 22/09/2025 07:23

RingoJuice · 22/09/2025 07:08

I am not Christian so need not worry about it. But she gives an explanation that is probably acceptable to most Christians.

Kirk was certainly not racist. But when 60% of the murders in my home country are committed by 13% of the population, a conversation needs to be had. He understood that. Our cowardly politicians will hide and say the most mealy mouthed things, anything to avoid being called a racist. It’s horrific.

But that conversation needs to be focused on WHY that happens. Things like the broken windows theory, poorer outcomes for the poorest in society, the fact that it’s a self fulfilling prophecy. Not the disgusting, racist bile that Kirk was spewing.

Thegreyhound · 22/09/2025 07:25

strangerandstranger · 21/09/2025 23:28

Did you read the title. His wife talked of God and forgiveness. That's not hateful.

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It is when you weaponise your Christianity. The American Christian right are dangerous and very very far from the teachings of Christ

Yardbird · 22/09/2025 07:26

GarlicBreadStan · 22/09/2025 07:09

A great man? Are you fucking deluded?

I’m a rad feminist, so from that lens yeah I think he was. Look at the amount of content and discussion we’re having right now.

I don’t agree with much of what he said, especially when it came to women’s rights, but I will defend to the death the right of anyone to say anything with being shot for it, and for it never to be celebrated if that does happen.

I also think the martyrdom is a mid sign of authoritarianism.

theres much more on this thread to get incensed about before we discuss the definition of a ‘great man’. I have little time for ‘great men’ but I think he was probably one of them, yes, in his ability and proclivity to reach across the aisle and discuss - lots of woman in the UK have been missing this for years and he was Winston Churchill compared to a fuckwit like Miller.

GarlicBreadStan · 22/09/2025 07:30

Yardbird · 22/09/2025 07:26

I’m a rad feminist, so from that lens yeah I think he was. Look at the amount of content and discussion we’re having right now.

I don’t agree with much of what he said, especially when it came to women’s rights, but I will defend to the death the right of anyone to say anything with being shot for it, and for it never to be celebrated if that does happen.

I also think the martyrdom is a mid sign of authoritarianism.

theres much more on this thread to get incensed about before we discuss the definition of a ‘great man’. I have little time for ‘great men’ but I think he was probably one of them, yes, in his ability and proclivity to reach across the aisle and discuss - lots of woman in the UK have been missing this for years and he was Winston Churchill compared to a fuckwit like Miller.

I'm not saying he deserved to die, but for you to be saddened by the death of a hateful man is kind of ridiculous, no? I'm not even saying I'm celebrating it, but I'm certainly not upset by it either. It happened. He's dead. The end.

And yes I know he was a father and a husband. Would my opinion be different if he was my son, or my husband, or some other kind of male figure in my life? Perhaps. But he wasn't. And I have no empathy for his wife. Trying to explain away everything he said.

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