Charlie Kirks wife forgives the killer

[strangerandstranger]

To people who said her husband was hateful and what they preached was hateful, she just forgave the killer, as God would. Powerful speech.

The messed up young man who thought shooting man he didn't like was the answer, will go to prison and no longer be with his boyfriend. Erika Kirk no longer has her husband and her children have list their father.

I'd really like to know her definition of 'forgiveness'. Because she likens it to that of God's. Which is today you will be with me in paradise, more joy over a repentant sinner etc.
I struggle to imagine she would think that if the killer was truly sorry he should be welcomed joyfully back into society and that his crime should not effect his future rewards. That he should be considered equally as beloved and treated just as well by God and man as her husband.
I imagine she's speaking of a determination not to let hate of the killer dominate her life and make her bitter and angry. If she achieves this she will probably have more peace of mind for it. But the killer will not be effected either way unless she extends this to speaking for him. So it's not an act of kindness towards him, but a decision for herself.

The funny thing is he didn’t even debate. He shouted facts, and that was that. He never actually engaged in discussions.

But it's so obviously...fake.

You can't possibly forgive somebody this quickly. Its ridiculous. It basically excludes grief and anger, two of the most basic human emotions.

It suits their narrative.

Surely her saying she forgives the killer is a good thing for the public to hear, whether she really means it yet or not. Anything to help calm the vitriol on all sides. Imagine if she’d got up there and said the exact opposite.

It’s normal. I’ve done it. Hatred does more harm to the person doing the hating. Punishment is not in our hands. The only thing I wish for my relative’s killer is life in prison (so he can’t do it again, why waste time hoping he is having a bad time, you have to let that go) and I hope one day God will show him remorse for his actions.
I am glad for her that she has been able to forgive her husband’s killer, it will help her.

What narrative is that then

How do you do it?

He certainly was racist, openly.

It absolutely is not normal to have “forgiven” your husbands killer within two weeks of his death, and to be using this as an opportunity to politically campaign. It is not normal to turn his memorial into a political stunt.

The one where, despite preaching hate, saying they’d force raped minors into giving birth and claiming it’s worth a few deaths to allow any Tom, Dick or Charlie to own a gun, they present themselves as loving and kind Christians.

And people will swallow it. Look at this thread.

some context for the people who wilfully and intentionally misrepresent and misquote CK. This is justt one example, with the full quote/conversation. There are many many more.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/fact-check-real-charlie-kirk-214400078.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAKqmvr-fyrDtNtqjHrB0BXiF9ZGNBd7RQk0nmNLMCnzDnZ49ZNaGrguvmuv2htVdozinQ70J5bXjSL45JnzWF6Jqzt3wB3t23aDXYTHGw7HQBX59_vbbDf9k_iD2t4HsLTdbPF_jtgjDEe6rXDlHYa9ynxRs6ssqCkpl3PWrlurl

The full quote is no better and just expands on his hateful views.

It appeared you were referring to me, sorry

Thanks.

No idea why some people insist the killer was MAGA he wasn't. He was radicalised and thought killing someone he disagreed with was the answer.

in your opinion. Isn’t free speech great?
thank goodness we have fact checking websites like snopes.

That conversation has been had since the 1960s and it hasn’t got better. We need to be straightforward and stop talking around it, because that hesitation solves NOTHING.

It all seems a bit too simple.
Even the text messages exchanged, who talks like that? I'm just changing my outfit. There is still one vehicle? A squad car? Where was the gun when he climbed off the building? Where did he it? They found the gun, not the type you can't tuck inside your waistband, climbing off a building.
It's hard to believe or accept the narrative.
Also suspicious that on the anniversary of Trump's near death experience, it's barely acknowledged. Shhh.

And what do you suggest is the straight forward conversation that needs to be had?

Trying to take a charitable view of it, I thought perhaps she believed that she was honouring her husband's memory by allowing it to become a political rally. Supporting the cause that he believed in, iyswim.

It was quite weird at times, though. Trump's ramblings were dreadful and completely off topic a lot of the time. It was like he kept forgetting why he was there and then suddenly remembering again.

I did find myself wondering whether Erika Kirk will seek to launch a political career off the back of this. It certainly looked like she might be thinking about it.

She’s already done so.

It’s just disgusting. The entire thing stinks. Absolutely stinks. Kirk was calling for the release of the Epstein files in their entirety and according to sources close to him, had shifted from being very pro-Israel to taking a critical view of their actions in Palestine. Then he’s murdered and this happens. Utterly bizarre

This guy nailed it (and he’s a total liberal, but one that can still think for himself on some level):

Interesting two hander with Trump there. She establishes 'their side' as having a god like righteousness and a goodness most would only aspire to. Demonstrates the 'feminine' virtues of gentle kindness and love.
Then, just in case that's seen as weakness where the more muscular brethren are concerned, he comes in like the avenging angel to smite those that stand in the way of all this goodness.
Truly something for everyone there and a strong message that if we want a society of Charlies and to protect our Erikas, then we (sadly) need to use force to drive out the evil of our opponants.

This thread is awful to read. Some people will apparantly call everything 'hate', even a hypothetical answer Kirk gave on his views on abortion.

Our western society is going to hell in a handbasket as there are too many people who are just so arrogant in their closed mindness. On both sides of the political spectrum. There just doesn't seem to be any drive anymore to find common ground.

Kirk was a fairly centric and open minded guy on most topics. And he got killed and left the more extreme people to take over. And instead of trying to get back to common ground, the left and right just doubles down and refuses to even try. Pathetic.

Indeed.