Page 3 | To ask if you agree with ‘the flag flyers’

Gobbledygook123 · 2025-09-19T16:54:49+00:00

Plus if you’re also educated and at least middle income? The only people I know personally that agree with Farage et al are from working class backgrounds and/or are generally not educated higher than GCSE level. Granted this is quite a small snapshot but this includes friends of friends, acquaintances etc so wondering if my perception of the ‘typical Farage voter’ is correct or skewed.

Another2Cats · 19/09/2025 19:39

Notagain75 · 19/09/2025 18:38

We don't allow 100s of people to come into the country without a background check on their criminality.
And Islam as a belief system is just as acceptable as Christianity.
The issue is with extremists and they exist in every religion.

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"We don't allow 100s of people to come into the country without a background check on their criminality."

You're quite right, it certainly isn't "100s". In fact, it's tens of thousands. In the 12 months to June 2025, 111,100 individuals applied for asylum here. There isn't a single background check on criminality done.

ClaraPowell · 19/09/2025 19:40

ginasevern · 19/09/2025 18:42

I'm educated and middle class and no, I don't agree with the flags or Farrage. I'm traditionally a Labour voter if relevant. However, the working classes have more to lose than the middle classes when it comes to "uncontrolled" immigration. Asylum seekers are far more likely to be housed in their areas and if they are on a council house waiting list, they are going to be angry when social housing is given to migrants. I think that many of the posters who feel that allowing thousands of unchecked men into the country will have no repercussions or is even a good idea might feel very differently if they lived in disadvantaged areas.

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I live in a disadvantaged area and I’m not concerned about migrants.

ClaraPowell · 19/09/2025 19:45

Londonmummy66 · 19/09/2025 18:42

Nothing wrong with a welsh dragon or three but not the rest. I realise of course that other nations may have different views on their own.

The latest polls show a clear intent to vote Reform into the Senedd.

SocksAndTheCity · 19/09/2025 19:46

I grew up on a scheme and left school at sixteen with five GCSEs. And I think Farage is a cunt.

ClaraPowell · 19/09/2025 19:46

Another2Cats · 19/09/2025 19:39

"We don't allow 100s of people to come into the country without a background check on their criminality."

You're quite right, it certainly isn't "100s". In fact, it's tens of thousands. In the 12 months to June 2025, 111,100 individuals applied for asylum here. There isn't a single background check on criminality done.

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There isn’t a criminal background check on British people unless they need it for work.

autumnsessions · 19/09/2025 19:50

i don’t agree with the flag flyers, degree educated, run our own business - high income.

MasterBeth · 19/09/2025 19:50

Another2Cats · 19/09/2025 19:39

"We don't allow 100s of people to come into the country without a background check on their criminality."

You're quite right, it certainly isn't "100s". In fact, it's tens of thousands. In the 12 months to June 2025, 111,100 individuals applied for asylum here. There isn't a single background check on criminality done.

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What criminal background checks would you like to do from people escaping from the Taliban? Do you imagine they have some kind of gov.afg portal we could log in to?

CobbleWobble · 19/09/2025 19:53

Another2Cats · 19/09/2025 19:39

"We don't allow 100s of people to come into the country without a background check on their criminality."

You're quite right, it certainly isn't "100s". In fact, it's tens of thousands. In the 12 months to June 2025, 111,100 individuals applied for asylum here. There isn't a single background check on criminality done.

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How on earth do you do a criminal background check on someone from a country with no public record infrastructure?

smallpinecone · 19/09/2025 19:53

I’m well educated, I have a master’s from UCL and have worked in NHS on and off for nearly twenty years. I live in London and I love seeing the flags elsewhere in the country - especially the city I grew up in.

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OhNoNotSusan · 19/09/2025 19:54

i am not a high achiever educationally wise, dont earn much, but from a middle class upbringing.
can't stand the flags!

OnePinkButter · 19/09/2025 19:55

Degree educated, working class background , 1 set of grandparents moved here from Middle East, father born here.

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with flag flying. I think it all started when that girl was sent home from school for wearing a Union Jack dress for culture day. Absolutely ridiculous, there’s nothing to be ashamed about being British, and no reason not to be proud or celebrate it! There are certainly people mostly British who I’ve encountered who seem to feel that British culture shouldn’t be given the light of day and hopefully forgotten. The complete opposite to Americans and their patriotic nature, many countries have a happy in between. Britannia rules the waves! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

About immigration, I do find it odd there seems to be an influx of immigrants who don’t seem to want to integrate into Britain, including adhering to British laws. And I do think this is a problem. My grandparents managed to integrate and adopt British culture without forgetting their own. As do many others - they’re not the problem. I find the people taking it down would probably also be the ones who let grooming gangs crack on in fear of being called racist.

5128gap · 19/09/2025 19:55

Working class, degree, disagree with the flags. Also disagree with you linking being working class and on a low income with racism. WC people are typically those most likely to live side by side with POC in friendship and community. Please don't make the little England mindset a new stick to beat us with. You'll find it as much in the chocolate box all white villages, where the wealthy people think the flags lower the tone, but agree with Farage nonetheless.

GeneralPeter · 19/09/2025 19:55

It’s worth remembering that if educated people think X is great and uneducated people think it’s not, sometimes that’s because X affects the two groups differently, not because the latter are thick.

EasternStandard · 19/09/2025 19:58

CobbleWobble · 19/09/2025 19:53

How on earth do you do a criminal background check on someone from a country with no public record infrastructure?

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You can’t. So when people talk about process and screening it’s not this.

Pollqueen · 19/09/2025 20:00

PalePurplePumpkin · 19/09/2025 18:11

Be careful OP

You're in danger of sounding as though you're calling working class people 'thick'?

I'm quite sure this isn't your intention.

I think that is absolutely the intention

EveryDayisFriday · 19/09/2025 20:02

No. I don't see the point of flags other than maybe at an airport or outside the UN. The US are flag mad, forcing kids to pledge allegiance to it every morning, crazy.

If you need a flag to tell you what country you're in then you need serious help.

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Gobbledygook123 · 19/09/2025 20:02

UnhappyHobbit · 19/09/2025 19:30

Why do you feel the need to gather “evidence” just to back up your own narrow minded viewpoint? You’re entitled to your opinion, but what does further education have to do with it? I studied classics myself and never once had to denounce my working class background or indoctrinate myself against other perspectives.
Life outside of university has shown me that there are always exceptions to stereotypes — a reality you seem unable (or unwilling) to grasp from your ivory tower. I wonder how far back you’d have to go to find your own working class roots. Most of us have them, after all.
Flying flags can be condemned as a thick sport, but your blatant classism and close minded views somehow gets a free pass? Interesting double standard.

Bit defensive?

I’m merely pointing out that everything I’ve seen IRL is extremely black and white in this way. Happy to be proven wrong but currently the previous posters aren’t really swaying it as there are only a handful not fitting this stereotype?

I actually didn’t mention my own upbringing so you’ve jumped to your own conclusions there.

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autumnsessions · 19/09/2025 20:05

itispersonal · 19/09/2025 19:05

I’m a degree educated professional from a working class background. We have some flags up along a main road in our village and I quite like them!

if you go to central London there lots of union jacks flying around and I like it! Seems that’s the only area which can be proud to be British by having the flags constantly!

i think English people want something to be proud of- our nhs, education and job opportunities are a mess. We are priced out of a nice life and yet for most of us we should be grateful we were born in the U.K. We have a democracy, we have freedoms and a not too corrupt legal system and don’t fear death for having an opposing view to the government.

Labour should have helped the working/ unheard/ ignored class feel proud and let them have the flag and encouraged it along our ‘British values’.
It shouldn’t have been taken over by a few in the far right or those on the left calling it a racist symbols! We have to change it from those views and calling everyone a racist, thick who has or puts up a flag doesn’t help. It feeds into Tommy Robinson / reform hands which no one wants.

Flying a flag is about as effective as clapping for the NHS - it doesn’t change a thing. If gven all the problems people have in this country all we need to do is enforce flag flying to make the discontented feel better - they are bigger idiots than I thought!

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Gobbledygook123 · 19/09/2025 20:09

WilfredsPies · 19/09/2025 19:31

Fucking hell, I’m embarrassed for you. The working class and fat people; the last two groups it’s still socially acceptable to be really offensive about. And then you wonder why some people consider ‘middle class’ to be an insult.

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Embarrassed why? I didn’t think it was embarrassing to be working or middle class just a fact of life.

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autumnsessions · 19/09/2025 20:12

Sometimes I think life’s shit! I don’t have a job or enough money to pay the bills, I’m on a waiting list with the NHS for 2 years but when I look out of my window and I see the Union Jack, my heart swells with pride and I think all that hardship is nothing as long as I have a Union Jack to gaze upon.

Does this seem likely? We need real change not silly flags - unless of course the flags are not about national pride but something more sinister…but how could that be it just a flag it’s not a symbol of hate is it? I think we know that it is. And that has been caused by the very people who keep banging on about pride in the flag. The flying of the flag is a territorial warning.

BigFatLiar · 19/09/2025 20:13

Considering nipping that the women's world Cup rugby is on I think it's a bit sad that some may feel embarrassed to show the flag to support them.

TheBeaTgoeson1 · 19/09/2025 20:13

I don’t, middle/high income. Middle class.

Waterbaby41 · 19/09/2025 20:13

Degree educated, not a Farage supporter. Not really surprised that flying the flag is gaining traction. The sheer hipocrisy of councils in taking down the various flags of the United Kingdom yet refusing to take down Palestinian flags is inflammatory.

OnePinkButter · 19/09/2025 20:14

OnePinkButter · 19/09/2025 19:55

Degree educated, working class background , 1 set of grandparents moved here from Middle East, father born here.

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with flag flying. I think it all started when that girl was sent home from school for wearing a Union Jack dress for culture day. Absolutely ridiculous, there’s nothing to be ashamed about being British, and no reason not to be proud or celebrate it! There are certainly people mostly British who I’ve encountered who seem to feel that British culture shouldn’t be given the light of day and hopefully forgotten. The complete opposite to Americans and their patriotic nature, many countries have a happy in between. Britannia rules the waves! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

About immigration, I do find it odd there seems to be an influx of immigrants who don’t seem to want to integrate into Britain, including adhering to British laws. And I do think this is a problem. My grandparents managed to integrate and adopt British culture without forgetting their own. As do many others - they’re not the problem. I find the people taking it down would probably also be the ones who let grooming gangs crack on in fear of being called racist.

To add, I wonder how many Brits even know the story of Albion and Brutus, how it is said Albion still watches over this little island so it said Britannia rules the waves. I love stories like this and they do make me feel proud to be British! I don’t recall ever covering it in school, but reading in books!
I wonder if heritage legends like this were used in classrooms, more would feel proud to be British and not feel the need to take down flags.

StartingOverIn2025 · 19/09/2025 20:15

Middle earner with a degree, and I don’t agree with ‘Poundland Trump’ in the slightest.

I saw today that some of the flags are already starting to look a bit sorry for themselves after the wind and rain.

They’re going to hang there looking a mess for the foreseeable - like sad little corpses hanging in gibbets. A bleak right-wing homage to Tommy Robinson. Lovely.