I took down some flags and DH wasn’t happy

[LittleChopper]

On my commute today, I noticed someone had hung three large St George flags on a bridge coming out of our village. They have been popping up everywhere but this particular instance I thought “I’m not having that”. On the way home I pulled over and took them down.

when I got home and DH asked why I was binning three large flags I told him and he.. had some interesting opinions. He told me I shouldn’t be pissing off people in the village, that they have every right to hang an England flag in England, and that I’m being too political.

For a start, I would argue that I’ve always been quite strongly opinionated so he shouldn’t be surprised I did it.

Just as others have the right to their opinion I have mine. We have people in the village who are migrants… why should they have to look at that. It’s clear why they were hanging there given what’s going on at the moment and I’ve never see a flag hanging in the village in the decade we’ve been here so why else would they be there now.

I’m just so disappointed with it all. With the UK, with DH.

Next time maybe I’ll add to the collection instead. 🇬🇷🇮🇪🇮🇳🇦🇫🇧🇸🇵🇰🇪🇸🇸🇩🇿🇦🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

So if the group that started this are just innocently expressing their patriotism, why have they called themselves the "Weoley Warriors"?

Who appointed you to define the problem?

Good for you. Funny how no one hung up flags when it was D day commemorations but only when Farage started going on about migrants isn’t it?

Its times like these we may see different values in partners we don’t share. Thankfully my DH shares my values in respect of this blatant racist act.

But the two are not comparable - the George Cross has been on the English flag since 1190 and accepted as the symbol of England. The use of the middle finger as an insult goes back even further.
The attempt to corrupt the English flag and make it a symbol of the far right has only happened in the last few months. Unfortunately, now people who are not far right are hanging flags because they feel like they are being told they can’t. Go to Cornwall, Wales, Ireland - they all proudly display their flags all year round.
I think everyone should be encouraged to fly the flag as a symbol of pride in our country which has welcomed migrants for most of the last 2000 years! We need to stop thinking of it as a symbol of the far right immediately.

Oh, I'm more than happy to have a conversation about those incidents... Can we talk about the hundreds of girls abused in Rotherham afterwards?
'Kiss a shoe!?' Please... 🤦‍♀️

It's a dreary, hackneyed phrase they use incessantly and as a projection, like they used to do with "snowflake." That one seems to be out of fashion now but "virtue signal" is still going strong. 🥱 The people trying to signal virtue are the ones claiming they are motivated by "protecting women and children" from a phantom horde of rapists and murderers.

Why one lot started and others have continued are two different things...

How are they two different things?

Read it again. The poster quite literally said speech is your right.
Why is; "If you don't like it, try to change it." not an option?

The association of the St George flag with the far right is much older than a few months. I don't know when it started, but it has been a thing for decades. This is just the latest resurgence.

As for people suddenly hanging them now "because they're being told they can't"? I don't think so. The flags are fucking everywhere. People are hanging them now because Tommy Robinson told them to, and they w will be well aware of the racist intent of the campaign.

"This is our country. If you don't like it, leave." And there it is; the blatantly racist motivation they're trying to claim doesn't exist. 🙄

I’m just so disappointed with it all. With the UK, with DH.

I'm Irish but we have similar issues going on here, do you not realise that the other side is also disappointed with the UK and the people who share your views?

Your poll is almost at 50/50 by the time I posted this.

Yes, we can, go on them, tell me your views on those incidents I mentioned?

And here is the article about the black boy who was forced to kiss a white bully’s shoe and then repeatedly punched afterwards.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2094kv9l8o

It's not racism to want immigration control.

This is our country. If you don;t like it, leave.

What happened? Does your immigrant neighbour have a nicer house and car than you?

Who told you that you aren't allowed freedom of speech? I said the exact opposite.Do you have a problem with reading comprehension?

FWIW, it's my country too, and I value the diversity that we have here. If you don't like it, leave.

Trying to burn down an asylum hotel and raping an Asian woman is not protesting against immigration, it’s terrorising people.

If they’re so hard, why don’t they storm parliament? They won’t because they’re shit scared.

And I'm not condoning that and neither are most people. Most people putting flags up etc just want immigration control, which isn't racism.

Nice word soup.

Once the flags are on public property, they don’t belong to anyone. You don’t get to use public property as a home and showcase for your flags.

So anyone can remove them.

How do you not get that?!

Well, unless the council put the flag up, the flag owner had no right to attach a personal item to a public bridge.