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What would be the one thing that put you off hiring someone?

449 replies

greyrabbits · 17/09/2025 14:26

Of all the things that would put you off giving someone a job, what’s the one thing that’s a definite no thanks.

OP posts:
Alconleigh · 17/09/2025 17:28

Surprised by the tattoo issues though. I work for a consultancy and most of those under 40 have at least one. I can imagine banking and high end law might have an issue but I thought they were pretty much accepted these days.

FrugalFeb25 · 17/09/2025 17:28

All my interviews are remote, so this is my recent list of rejecting candidates:

  • using ChatGTP to answer questions
  • having someone in the room - off camera - to provide prompts
  • did a first interview, pushed someone forward to second -they slagged me off to the 2nd interviewee
  • answering very different questions with exactly the same answer - 5 questions on the go
  • being very difficult to understand
  • over-egging experience - very easy to find out in interview
AmberMaps · 17/09/2025 17:29

Alconleigh · 17/09/2025 17:26

It’s not being picky, it’s being accurate. Half the mess we’re in on this front is people not understanding what the protected characteristics actually are. Or thinking that gender and sex are just interchangeable words for the same thing.

That's fine and understood. But just saying 'it's not' just undermines my main point about it being illegal to discriminate. If you feel strongly about this being wrong then it's probably better to back it up with a subtle correction.

Someone simply expressing their gender identity (like using pronouns) is enough to be covered by the Gender Reassignment protected characteristic. That was my point and it still stands.

slanksy · 17/09/2025 17:36

Lots of things already said so I’ll go for sullen. No one wants someone bouncing off the walls happy/enthusiastic, but sullenness that goes past nerves would put me off.

Bladderpool · 17/09/2025 17:37

It’s disturbing how many people are citing obesity as a reason not to hire. My boss appears obese but actually has a severe under active thyroid which causes her weight gain. She’s one of the most physically active gung ho people I’ve ever known. Horrible how blinkered and prejudiced posters on this forum can be.

Gottonsomedraws · 17/09/2025 17:37

BadgernTheGarden · 17/09/2025 15:26

Not having the right qualifications.

Yes this . I am sick to the back teeth of people applying for roles in my team which require a specific QUALIFICATION and EXPERIENCE but people apply with neither of them … such a waste of time sifting through CVs within the application process, having to reject them etc when they need not apply at all. Add to this those who want a pre interview ‘chat’ before they apply and ask me then how important the qualification is - FFS it’s in the ‘essentials’ bit of the job description, people.
Can you tell I’ve had to do three rounds or recruiting this year and this really grinds my gears!

DramaLlamacchiato · 17/09/2025 17:37

AmberMaps · 17/09/2025 17:29

That's fine and understood. But just saying 'it's not' just undermines my main point about it being illegal to discriminate. If you feel strongly about this being wrong then it's probably better to back it up with a subtle correction.

Someone simply expressing their gender identity (like using pronouns) is enough to be covered by the Gender Reassignment protected characteristic. That was my point and it still stands.

No it isn’t. Me, a straight “cis” female putting “she/her” after my name is not going to give me the PC of gender reassignment, based on the definitions in the Equality Act. It may be covered under religion and belief, but (a) it’s not been tested yet as far as I know and (b) they’d need to establish that was the reason they were refused employment.

MagpiePi · 17/09/2025 17:38

Gottonsomedraws · 17/09/2025 17:37

Yes this . I am sick to the back teeth of people applying for roles in my team which require a specific QUALIFICATION and EXPERIENCE but people apply with neither of them … such a waste of time sifting through CVs within the application process, having to reject them etc when they need not apply at all. Add to this those who want a pre interview ‘chat’ before they apply and ask me then how important the qualification is - FFS it’s in the ‘essentials’ bit of the job description, people.
Can you tell I’ve had to do three rounds or recruiting this year and this really grinds my gears!

How many of them were men, out of interest?

AmberMaps · 17/09/2025 17:47

DramaLlamacchiato · 17/09/2025 17:37

No it isn’t. Me, a straight “cis” female putting “she/her” after my name is not going to give me the PC of gender reassignment, based on the definitions in the Equality Act. It may be covered under religion and belief, but (a) it’s not been tested yet as far as I know and (b) they’d need to establish that was the reason they were refused employment.

In your case it would be illegal under 'Sex'. For those that were not hired because they put anything other than what they "appeared" to the interviewer to be would be illegal under 'Gender Reassignment'. Even prosing to change gender is enough to be covered.

(a) As far as I know it hasn't been tested, but given then number of people who have said it here, it's only a matter of time
(b) as will all cases of discrimination in employment law it would need to be established as the reason. It would be hard to prove unless there was proof, true, but if there was it would be hard to argue.

zipadeedodah · 17/09/2025 17:48

DramaLlamacchiato · 17/09/2025 17:07

Thank god my employers haven’t felt the same or I’d have been unemployed for 20 years 😂 although, at least I might then be thin due to not being able to afford food

CharlieKirkRIP just said what we all know happens 😥

WhereAreWeNow · 17/09/2025 17:52

Pronouns.
Long, waffling applications which don't reference the person spec.
Applications that look generic and possibly written by AI.

HolidayInCambodia25 · 17/09/2025 17:53

Someone who seems to spend all their bloody time posting on LinkedIn. I assume they're all personal PR and little/no results/substance. Or worse, they're really poor performers just good at social media. Based on experience of colleagues and contractors who do that.

everythingthelighttouches · 17/09/2025 17:55

Dishonesty

closely followed by poor work ethic and lack of ability to listen

WhereAreWeNow · 17/09/2025 17:56

I see I'm not alone in being put off by pronouns. I wish someone would tell the young'uns how off-putting it is. I suspect a lot of them don't even have strong views on trans/gender issues, they've just been led to believe that stating your pronouns is the progressive, modern thing to do. If only they knew how many employers see it as a red flag.

Lalala12345 · 17/09/2025 17:58

how about a thread about all the appalling interviews people have had to sit through. Employers and HR are responsible for a lot of misery just in what they subject people to via their hiring practices. Endless rounds of interviews, tasks, ghosting candidates, using interviews as a consultancy exercise.... people forget that interviews are as much about you assessing the employer as the other way around.

zipadeedodah · 17/09/2025 18:00

GonnaeNoDaeThatJustGonnaeNo · 17/09/2025 17:20

How likely is that going to come up in an interview?

Oh I've had that one. I've also been asked whether I rent or own, whether I was planning on getting pregnant and whether I've got a bad back (for an office based role).

Elsvieta · 17/09/2025 18:13

zipadeedodah · 17/09/2025 17:48

CharlieKirkRIP just said what we all know happens 😥

Of course, if fat people couldn't get jobs this would just confirm his/her idea that they're lazy scroungers.

K0OLA1D · 17/09/2025 18:15

Crushed23 · 17/09/2025 17:16

Surely that poster meant visible tattoos? In what way could covered tattoos offend a potential client / patient / customer? That’s like saying “How do you know I haven’t dyed my pubic hair blue?”

They didn't say visable tattoos did they. They said tattoos. I wore a jacket to my interview but I have my arms out in thr office when I am there, therefore making them visible. Doesn't impact my job a jott

RaininSummer · 17/09/2025 18:18

Smelling of cigarettes or vapes.

weareallequal · 17/09/2025 18:20

Insertfootnote · 17/09/2025 14:44

If they stated their pronouns.

Yep, trouble ahead

Gottonsomedraws · 17/09/2025 18:28

MagpiePi · 17/09/2025 17:38

How many of them were men, out of interest?

@MagpiePi actually I’d say 50/50 tbh

weareallequal · 17/09/2025 18:29

AmberMaps · 17/09/2025 16:55

I can't believe how many people have said pronouns. The others are sort of silly and jovial but not hiring someone because they told you their pronouns is literally illegal. Gender is a protected characteristic. I hope these people are actually hiring managers.

Edited

Why can't you believe it? Lots of people are fed up of that rubbish and people that indulge in gender ideology and an over obsession with their pronouns are hard work. Pass on by for someone else.

dynamiccactus · 17/09/2025 18:30

Gottonsomedraws · 17/09/2025 17:37

Yes this . I am sick to the back teeth of people applying for roles in my team which require a specific QUALIFICATION and EXPERIENCE but people apply with neither of them … such a waste of time sifting through CVs within the application process, having to reject them etc when they need not apply at all. Add to this those who want a pre interview ‘chat’ before they apply and ask me then how important the qualification is - FFS it’s in the ‘essentials’ bit of the job description, people.
Can you tell I’ve had to do three rounds or recruiting this year and this really grinds my gears!

Is it really required though? I ask the question because my ds is looking for a job at the moment and I've been having a look through adverts out of interest and the number that require experience when anyone with a few brain cells could do it with a few weeks training (or less time) is quite extraordinary eg retail work (which I was able to get at 15 with no work experience whatsoever).

The best example was working in a local bubble tea bar where you needed a year's barista experience.

And sometimes a job DOES need the experience and qualifications but the salary is barely above minimum wage, so of course graduates and those looking for entry level jobs are going to apply anyway.

dynamiccactus · 17/09/2025 18:32

HerewardtheSleepy · 17/09/2025 17:15

Voting Reform.

Back in the day when you could ask such questions, one boss I had used to ask what newspaper the candidate read?

Women could give any answer and be OK. Any bloke who replied "Daily Mail" had automatically failed his interview.

Edited

And in Liverpool, the Sun....

dynamiccactus · 17/09/2025 18:33

SusanChurchouse · 17/09/2025 16:45

I think having tattoos shows you can sit and endure pain for hours on end. Which is not dissimilar to many Teams meetings I’ve been in.

Very fair comment!