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Why is the public directing their anger at the individual asylum seeker that arrives at the shore…

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AnotherNC12345 · 17/09/2025 10:54

… rather than the smuggling / trafficking gangs that are responsible for the journey?

I think it’s very extreme to put all of the blame and the anger at the individual that arrives, rather than the people responsible for orchestrating the whole process. These individuals are often ‘sold the dream’ and hooked in by organised crime groups who direct them to the UK. I’ve looked at sample routes from different parts of the world (screenshots may be pending) and these are complex and would need local people, as well as law enforcement, customs officers and other government officials to turn a blind eye involved in smuggling across multiple borders.

It’s no secret that these crossings likely cost a lot of money, and I think it would be safe to assume that refugees would often be in crippling debt to the OCGs who will put pressure on them to pay it back, by threatening them and their families and I would go as far as to say they could then be coerced in to further committing crimes when granted asylum in order to pay back their debt.

These OCGs are likely involved in other trafficking / crime, not just of asylum seekers but likely drugs, weapons and sex as they have the connections across those borders.

I think it’s very unlikely that an asylum seeker is sitting there looking at all the European government websites and shopping for a country with the best benefits package and approaching a trafficker with a brochure like they’re picking a Jet2 holiday. But this is the narrative that’s often put us and fuelled in the media.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to have a better system and want to control our borders better on a whole, but this sheer anger and blame placed at the human in front of us seems very misplaced, when they were likely manipulated in to thinking they can have a better life in this particular country and not another, and the problem is way way bigger than an individual.

Why is the public directing their anger at the individual asylum seeker that arrives at the shore…
Why is the public directing their anger at the individual asylum seeker that arrives at the shore…
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OwlBeThere · 26/09/2025 02:28

MaturingCheeseball · 25/09/2025 06:04

@OwlBeThere do you honestly think that interpreter services are a better use of public money than MPs (the democratic process) or the royal family (our heritage)?

We may have a right shower currently but the alternative is what? A dictatorship? A republican dictatorship? But yay! With plenty of interpreters!

I don’t see how not funding the royal family or crazy expenses from MPs means a dictatorship?
MPs get paid a nice amount of money, £93k basic wage is a lot of money. I don’t even object to them having a place to stay covered if their constituency is a long way from Westminster, but beyond that, they should pay their own way.
I don’t believe we should haves a royal family at all, i think it’s a gross concept and should be scrapped, but at the very least we shouldn’t be paying for them, these people are millionaires, why am i
paying for their wedding security?

OwlBeThere · 26/09/2025 02:37

SpaceRaccoon · 25/09/2025 13:01

Yep. 600 quid for a GP visit will not win the hearts and minds of the locals:

www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2j3regpdno.amp

People absolutely are angry at them for coming. Read a comments section on Facebook one day on anything even vaguely related to immigrants and the bile spewed is absolutely mind blowing.

that story about the taxi is mental and a crazy waste of public funds, I agree. It’s not the fault of the immigrant though is it? It’s the organisation of things by seemingly incompetent government officials. I’m pretty
sure no one wants to do a 250 mile round trip to see a bloody doctor.

usernamealreadytaken · 26/09/2025 21:31

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MrsSkylerWhite · 04/10/2025 12:43

PurpleNurple23 · 20/09/2025 17:59

I don't support Reform but given that they've said they'll only deport people who come here illegally and foreign criminals I'm not worried. I'm also a naturalised UK citizen.

I wouldn’t want to be a naturalised citizen if Reform formed a government.

First they came …..,

PurpleNurple23 · 04/10/2025 13:02

MrsSkylerWhite · 04/10/2025 12:43

I wouldn’t want to be a naturalised citizen if Reform formed a government.

First they came …..,

We saw what happened in Manchester the other day didn't we.

MrsSkylerWhite · 04/10/2025 13:03

PurpleNurple23 · 04/10/2025 13:02

We saw what happened in Manchester the other day didn't we.

Yes.
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Joeninety · 16/11/2025 21:38

It's hardly ever about individuals, it's about unsustainable numbers. Thought people understood this by now, after 40-50 odd years of immigration abuse ?!

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