Video of a kind man supporting his Muslim neighbour. AIBU to be horrified that this is where we’re at right now?

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I guess it may be fake, but there’s no reason to think it would be.
So many threads on here about the flags and the March etc. Lots of posters saying it’s ridiculous that these things are seen as far right, racist or racist.
The exchange in this clip could have been straight out of Germany in the 1930s.

How the hell did it come to this?

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1B7p3ojntk/?mibextid=wwXIfr

How to prove a point 🖕🖕

This question is for British Jews. Is there any way I can express how much I abhor how the Israeli government is acting, without being anti semitic?

This question is for British pro Palestinian supporters. Is there any way I can express how much I abhor the murders and violence on Oct 7th and acknowledge that it was the trigger and contributing factor of Isreal’s actions?

I’m British. I can see cause on both sides (cause not justification) and I see victims. If I criticise Israel, I’m called anti-Semitic and if I criticise Hamas, I’m called an apologist for genocide. It is a question in good faith - not anti any religion, just anti violent regimes/States.

THIS

No, I haven’t seen that, and certainly not as the second post on a thread which doesn’t even offer a token word of support to Jews on a thread about anti-Semitism.

That's probably because it's usually the very first post but it's usually also so antisemitic that even MN feel the need to delete it before most people have read it.

It always decends into it along the way

If it's so common then surely you can link to an example?

What a heartwarming, feel-good thread. I really don't know why anyone would worry about increasing sectarianism in Britain...

Couldn’t agree more.

I think the problem with the thread is that the original tik tok video was extremely unlikely to be genuine - as demonstrated by a previous poster who linked what appear to be several other "spoof" videos shot on the same estate from the same doorway.

How can I possibly link to a deleted comment? Stop being ridiculous. A lot of the time the whole thread ends up being deleted as well, because antisemites don't know when to stop.

You of course have the option to not believe me that this happens, but I'm not sure what good that does. I guess if it makes you feel better though, go ahead! Let's pretend everyone loves and respects Jews and that no one would ever go on a thread about antisemitism and completely derail it.

You can link to the thread though. The replies to the deleted comment will show why the comment was deleted.

You think I should just believe you because you say so? Don't be so ridiculous.

This is human nature, which is why mass migration is dangerous.

Ethnic groups defend their land fiercely; and when threatened, they fight. This has always been the case and will never change.

There's tonnes of reports of Hindu-Muslim violence/rape/racism and just look at the Middle Eastern wars. They prove this. This is why people need their own countries and need to feel secure in them.

People instinctively want their own land and will resist (violently) losing it.

I have Polish friend who've gone home and they see Englands chaos as a warning that mass migration leads to conflict and should be avoided at all costs.

It's not a white thing or an English thing it's about human nature and we've been doing it forever.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_night_watch/5180436-inflammatory-new-aibu-thread

Here is reference to a thread that was deleted as an example. I found it by searching "antisemitism" on here, so maybe you try doing so if you want more examples.

But again, the poster didn't say that, they completely ignored the premise of the thread (Islamophobia) and started straightaway on anti-Semitism. I do think if someone did that on a thread about anti-Semitism, they would be told they're an anti-Semite.

Ffs. Always the same posters derailing threads lately. Could you not just create a separate argument thread and take yourselves off there to bicker?

How is that 'proof' that threads about anti-Semitism get hijacked by Islamophobia? It's a deleted thread with no reference to anything.

I'm starting to think you don't actually care about derailing, since nobody is derailing as much as you are. It's just the nature of the derail that seems to matter to you.

It's a staged video anyway. Who the hell poses like that in front of a Ring doorbell and who the hell posts it on the Internet. It's a nice sentiment but it's a script and an actor.

I'm simply responding to people who keep posting to me.

I'd be happy to stop being tagged so that I don't need to return to this shit show.

And convenient that you ignore the derailment that happened just two posts in.

Well said. Seriously, this post was refreshing to read.
I don’t even think MN is the worst of the internet but in the past week or so, all of these threads appear to go the same way. We all have more in common than we think.

Just let them have the last word, ffs. You can't complain about a derail if you think you getting the last word is worth derailing it forever.

And you see why I didn't bother wasting loads of time digging up proof that water is wet for you? I knew you would just bulldoze and refuse to accept it like you're doing now. I'd have lost a ton of time and got RSI in my wrist since I'm on my phone and it would all have been lost on you anyway. Utter waste of time.

Now either you care deeply about a focus on Islamophobia in a thread about a staged video, or you are absolutely fine with derails as long as they're about you and not Jews. Goodness, I wonder what it'll be!

@ItsAMoooPoint

I don't think you've even read what you've posted. Based on the other posts by the same poster, the posts that were deleted in that thread would have been because the poster was saying that Muslims are inherently anti-Semitic, homophobic and 'rape gangs'.

So they're BEING Islamophobic, which is entirely different to making the thread about Islamophobia.

I see you've just deleted your post though.

How can I not question the so called proof? @ItsAMoooPoint just linked a thread as proof and deleted it herself because she realised it wasn't proof at all.

Anyway, I am happy not to have the last word. I'll try and ignore the next person who tags me, as long as it's not too egregious.

I agree 100%. I also would not automatically hold an Israeli person responsible for the genocide carried out by their state. Only if they defend and justify these actions should they be criticised.