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Video of a kind man supporting his Muslim neighbour. AIBU to be horrified that this is where we’re at right now?

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flyingsquirrelsagogo · 16/09/2025 14:49

I guess it may be fake, but there’s no reason to think it would be.
So many threads on here about the flags and the March etc. Lots of posters saying it’s ridiculous that these things are seen as far right, racist or racist.
The exchange in this clip could have been straight out of Germany in the 1930s.

How the hell did it come to this?

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1B7p3ojntk/?mibextid=wwXIfr

37K views · 868 reactions | This is beautiful and horrifying in equal measure. I'm just lost for words that our neighbours, friends and colleagues are too frightened to leave their homes. However, this video shows that some of us still have our humanit...

This is beautiful and horrifying in equal measure. I'm just lost for words that our neighbours, friends and colleagues are too frightened to leave their homes. However, this video shows that some of...

https://www.facebook.com/61577992757971/videos/768373715952586/?fs=e&mibextid=wwXIfr&rdid=kuRNwNqxx7KnfjdA&share_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fshare%2Fv%2F1B7p3ojntk%2F%3Fmibextid%3DwwXIfr

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nomas · 16/09/2025 16:31

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ThatCyanCat · 16/09/2025 16:31

nomas · 16/09/2025 16:19

You can’t upload them because they don’t exist. And you know they don’t.

As predicted.

There may come a day when I waste great lengths of time trawling MN and gathering screenshots to prove the flaming obvious that you and everyone knows... that it's mostly women, that it's sensitive to infidelity, that OW get slaughtered more than cheating married men, that it is largely gender critical, and that threads about antisemitism do indeed draw deflective comments about Islamophobia, much like this thread about Islamophobia drew an antisemitic comment in no time flat, so that people like you can refuse to believe it and stubbornly remain in the exact same frame of mind that you would be if I hadn't done it by claiming I didn't gather enough (n+1, always) or I generated it with AI, or any other rubbish that makes you happy.

But it is not this day.

SweetButScatty · 16/09/2025 16:32

weighinin · 16/09/2025 16:22

I would like to whole heartedly and sincerely apologise for, in a video which was not about a Muslim, in which no Muslim appeared, and in which nothing happened to a Muslim, for not expressing solidarity with Muslims or expressing any sympathy with the Muslim who did not exist..

I would further like to wholeheartedly and sincerely apologise for, in a thread saying Britain is becoming like 1930s Germany, talking about current real experiences of British Jews. I can now see that this was wholly irrelevant to the point of hijacking the thread about the invisible, voiceless Muslim whom nothing had happened to as s/he does not exist.

I feel like such a fool.

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This is the current real experience of British Jews, British Muslims and British Black and mixed-race people. I have regular conversations with people from all these groups and they were scared to leave the house at the weekend.

nomas · 16/09/2025 16:33

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nomas · 16/09/2025 16:34

ThatCyanCat · 16/09/2025 16:31

As predicted.

There may come a day when I waste great lengths of time trawling MN and gathering screenshots to prove the flaming obvious that you and everyone knows... that it's mostly women, that it's sensitive to infidelity, that OW get slaughtered more than cheating married men, that it is largely gender critical, and that threads about antisemitism do indeed draw deflective comments about Islamophobia, much like this thread about Islamophobia drew an antisemitic comment in no time flat, so that people like you can refuse to believe it and stubbornly remain in the exact same frame of mind that you would be if I hadn't done it by claiming I didn't gather enough (n+1, always) or I generated it with AI, or any other rubbish that makes you happy.

But it is not this day.

Because you have nothing.

Longingdreamer · 16/09/2025 16:34

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As you would know, if you had read Mumsnet rules, it against the rules to quote deleted posts. Your post was deleted because of racism.

Nothing has been highjacked. Multiple people have explained the relevance.

Longingdreamer · 16/09/2025 16:36

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Personal attacks, rather than acknowledging your own racism, how very predictable 😂

nomas · 16/09/2025 16:37

Longingdreamer · 16/09/2025 16:34

As you would know, if you had read Mumsnet rules, it against the rules to quote deleted posts. Your post was deleted because of racism.

Nothing has been highjacked. Multiple people have explained the relevance.

All I have said in my posts is that the thread was hijacked without showing any support for Muslims, who were the subject of the OP.

There is still not a single word of support for Muslims in any of your posts.

Anyahyacinth · 16/09/2025 16:38

weighinin · 16/09/2025 15:16

People are literally smearing shit on synagogues in the UK, hounding and isolating Jewish students in British universities, abusing Jewish school children and Jewish people are increasingly hiding any sign of being Jewish in public, people in the UK have openly supported the racist murders against Jew of October 7th, and tore down posters of the hostages. Jewish people have been struck by, at best, the remarkable absence of support from their fellow British citizens in the face of all this hostility and hatred. As one Jewish man put it, ' I used to think I was a British Jew. Now I realise I am just a Jew who happens to live in Britain.'

I think all this is more reminiscent of 1930s Germany.

That all sounds so awful and dramatic until I realise you mean people protesting a genocide ..the other things are criminal behaviours. If you oppress people it’s unreasonable not to expect them to react. Thousands in unlawful starvation detention for example…what decent person could support that? Mass murder, ecocide and more. The synagogue I attend has had security gates and a guard post for years so how are the things you raise happening?

Longingdreamer · 16/09/2025 16:38

SweetButScatty · 16/09/2025 16:32

This is the current real experience of British Jews, British Muslims and British Black and mixed-race people. I have regular conversations with people from all these groups and they were scared to leave the house at the weekend.

It is, and I am dismayed that people are angry at minorities for talking about their lived experiences. It makes it a very scary world that we live in.

I am a Jew, and I am afraid.

nomas · 16/09/2025 16:39

ginasevern · 16/09/2025 16:28

I thought this thread was about racism in general, not just islamophobia. I appreciate the premis of the (fake in this instance) video is to support a Muslim neighbour but it isn't just Muslims affected by recent events. Are people genuinely so oblivious that other minorities and religions are hurting too? In any event, the OP cited Nazi Germany which is singularly notorious for the genocide of Jews so to try and minimise or shut down a conversation about current anti-semitism in this particular thread is strange at best.

It would be fine if people showed solidarity with Muslims and then said other communities are suffering too.

That’s not what happened. Instead the OP was shut down and told that there are others more deserving of the thread than Muslims.

EmeraldRoulette · 16/09/2025 16:39

@flyingsquirrelsagogo what's the context for this video please? I can view it but I can't get any further than that as I don't have Facebook. So I'm wondering what happened to the family. Or if it's just totally staged. Or if the gentleman at the door just assumed they were feeling under threat.

I'm really hoping nothing's actually happened to this family

Anyahyacinth · 16/09/2025 16:40

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LadyKenya · 16/09/2025 16:40

SweetButScatty · 16/09/2025 16:32

This is the current real experience of British Jews, British Muslims and British Black and mixed-race people. I have regular conversations with people from all these groups and they were scared to leave the house at the weekend.

This. As a Black Woman I am horrified by what is happening at the turn that this Country seems to be taking. So much hate being directed at different groups of people. Lots of people are suffering. Lots!

Lifecanbebeautiful12 · 16/09/2025 16:42

weighinin · 16/09/2025 15:16

People are literally smearing shit on synagogues in the UK, hounding and isolating Jewish students in British universities, abusing Jewish school children and Jewish people are increasingly hiding any sign of being Jewish in public, people in the UK have openly supported the racist murders against Jew of October 7th, and tore down posters of the hostages. Jewish people have been struck by, at best, the remarkable absence of support from their fellow British citizens in the face of all this hostility and hatred. As one Jewish man put it, ' I used to think I was a British Jew. Now I realise I am just a Jew who happens to live in Britain.'

I think all this is more reminiscent of 1930s Germany.

That didn’t take long!

ThatCyanCat · 16/09/2025 16:42

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You appear to be accusing British Jews of being guilty of genocide.

You also appear to think that they should feel supported and safe because they need so much extra security due to increased threats.

nomas · 16/09/2025 16:43

Longingdreamer · 16/09/2025 16:36

Personal attacks, rather than acknowledging your own racism, how very predictable 😂

You repeatedly insisted that lots of posts were deleted, which is clearly not the case.

Constantlycoughing · 16/09/2025 16:44

Anyahyacinth · 16/09/2025 16:38

That all sounds so awful and dramatic until I realise you mean people protesting a genocide ..the other things are criminal behaviours. If you oppress people it’s unreasonable not to expect them to react. Thousands in unlawful starvation detention for example…what decent person could support that? Mass murder, ecocide and more. The synagogue I attend has had security gates and a guard post for years so how are the things you raise happening?

Who are British Jews oppressing?

you seem to disbelieve the shit part re asking how it’s possible
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3e751wnq2lo

nomas · 16/09/2025 16:46

LadyKenya · 16/09/2025 16:40

This. As a Black Woman I am horrified by what is happening at the turn that this Country seems to be taking. So much hate being directed at different groups of people. Lots of people are suffering. Lots!

I agree, the time is for minorities to unite. That’s not what was happening on the thread. The experiences of Muslims were dismissed by those implying others are more deserving.

SweetButScatty · 16/09/2025 16:46

EmeraldRoulette · 16/09/2025 16:39

@flyingsquirrelsagogo what's the context for this video please? I can view it but I can't get any further than that as I don't have Facebook. So I'm wondering what happened to the family. Or if it's just totally staged. Or if the gentleman at the door just assumed they were feeling under threat.

I'm really hoping nothing's actually happened to this family

It’s a video of an older white man, apparently filmed at a ring doorbell, offering his house as a place of sanctuary to a Muslim couple. The unseen man says his wife is afraid to leave the house.

It may well be fake. The photo of a sea of Union flags showing the Arc de Triomphe in Paris is widely being used to show the Unite the Nation show of intimidation last Saturday, and it’s certainly fake because the Arc de Triomphe isn’t in London and the flags were mainly St George ones.

The red crosses painted on houses where people of ethnic minorities aren’t fake. They look like Eyam during the Plague. It’s horrific.

EmeraldRoulette · 16/09/2025 16:50

@SweetButScatty thank you but as I said in my post, I've seen the video

It's the context I'm wanting to know

without more information, it could be just another performative video

Longingdreamer · 16/09/2025 16:51

nomas · 16/09/2025 16:43

You repeatedly insisted that lots of posts were deleted, which is clearly not the case.

At least three of your posts have been deleted for racism. It is time for you to reflect.

JHound · 16/09/2025 16:51

I am actually disturbed and aghast at how acceptable Islamophobia is now. It’s just casually widely accepted speech to insist Islam (and by definition Muslims) have no place in Western societies.

Scary times.

ginasevern · 16/09/2025 16:52

nomas · 16/09/2025 16:39

It would be fine if people showed solidarity with Muslims and then said other communities are suffering too.

That’s not what happened. Instead the OP was shut down and told that there are others more deserving of the thread than Muslims.

I didn't read the comments that actually said others more deserving. And I still don't understand why this thread should primarily show solidarity with Muslims. If we are to tackle racism then it must be all racism. Nobody should suffer ethnic or religious persecution. If we set up a selective or "graded" system of racism then aren't we in fact creating a new form of it?

nomas · 16/09/2025 16:53

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