Video of a kind man supporting his Muslim neighbour. AIBU to be horrified that this is where we’re at right now?

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I guess it may be fake, but there’s no reason to think it would be.
So many threads on here about the flags and the March etc. Lots of posters saying it’s ridiculous that these things are seen as far right, racist or racist.
The exchange in this clip could have been straight out of Germany in the 1930s.

How the hell did it come to this?

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Yes, but British Jews would mean as a collective group. Also, you're using the word oppressing wrong. It sounds like you mean that anyone who disagrees with you is oppressing you. For oppression there has to be some kind of power imbalance, which there isn't in any of your examples.

You're not some kind of victim here.

I'm inclined to agree.

I wonder if he's equally supportive of his Jewish neighbours?

You really don't have to have read the full thread to agree that saying that British Jews are oppressors is extremely antisemitic

Don’t who always what?

Oh no! Not the poor oppressed people who are pro-Palestinian being oppressed by British Jews!! I mean, who could possibly have foreseen that behaving like a raging antisemite might have consequences? What's the view on this terrible injustice being visited upon the people who are pro-Palestinian by British Jews when you bring this up at your very safe anti-Zionist synagogue?

Because, bluntly, anti-Semitism is far more rife than Islamophobia in the UK at present and very few people care. It's just not as widely reported - and the lack of reporting itself is an instance of anti-Semitism.

I’ve already said that suggesting all British Jews support the genocide in Gaza (source: United Nations, today) is as nonsensical as suggesting all British people supported the genocide in Iraq.

Why should every generation be better off than the last?

The truth is that for many of the post-WW2 years the West has been running what amounts to a giant Ponzi scheme where money that couldn't be afforded was spent on "good" things on the basis that future generations would be able to, and be happy to pay the deferred price - but they aren't and they can't so everything is now imploding socially and economically.

This is reflected in an unstable job market, unaffordable and insufficient housing stock, an aging population, the parlous state of NHS funding, the (un)sustainablilty of pensions and even a Labour government having to promise to kick out illegal migrants.

And that's before considering a reset to year zero to fight climate change.

Everything has been pissed away

This isn’t any more of an issue than what is happening to people of other faiths too..

I don’t think that’s statistically true, because the British Jewish population is much smaller than the British Muslim population, and Islamophobia is rife in my personal experience. As someone who has never been anti-Semitic or Islamophobic, I don’t understand why one group is saying that racism towards one group is worse than racism towards another group.

You don't need to dismiss one group to acknowledge another.

I think anti-Semitism and Islamophobia are as rife and as bad as each other.

I think Islamophobic attacks are less reported to the police by dint of the fact that more recent immigrants tend to be Muslim rather than Jewish, and immigrants are notoriously reticent to go to the police.

But who says it should work like that? Any human society is affected by what other human beings do as well as themselves. Now we have climate change that will wreak havoc with the basic structure of our global society, and we have wars in other parts of the world which also affect us. People won't keep getting richer and richer.

This.
But no-one gives a fuck when it's the Jews being subjected to this.

I think if Muslims think no one gives a fuck and Jews think no one gives a fuck then that should tell everyone something.

I don’t think racism to Muslims is worse than racism to Jews, I was shocked at the speed with which the thread was hijacked.

It was in response to this part of your post
"Would you be happy it if people started talking about Islamophobia in an anti-Semitism thread?"

Ok but what is better off?

Put bluntly, could you please provide evidence for that statement? I am not going to defend or deny anti-semitism, and nor do I think that claiming one is somehow less relevant or important than the other is helpful. But in my day to day life I rarely ever come across anti-semitism, whilst I can count instances of islamophobia on an almost daily basis. And some 110,000 or so people at the weekend brought that home pretty forcefully. Doesn't Tommy Robinson, in fact, support Israel, because he's made a number of statements supporting Israel, and more than enough attacking Muslims?

Isn't racism in all forms appalling? It's not a race to the bottom.

Why do you want to ignore this?

So which group are you making a general statement about when you say they all always do that?

Do you mean me, mumtobabyhavoc?

The people responding on the tread

I am able to acknowledge that both Jews and Muslims (and other minorities) are facing abuse and discrimination.

If anyone watched the speeches at the rally they would know that it was all about hating Islam. There have been many reports of mosques graffitied on (and worse, abroad), a Muslim cemetery desecrated, hijabs ripped off, recently a man beaten up for confronting men who called his mother a racial slur near Heathrow, the rape of the woman in Oldbury. Muslims and brown people in general are often more visibly different and easy to attack.

It's really not a competition.

I wouldn't dream of going on about my own victim status on a thread about a different minority to try and claim my victimhood was more deserving of sympathy than someone else's without even mentioning the original minority.

I have reported the post that you quoted, as it feeds into the age old Anti-Semitic trope of Jews as oppressors who control the media/banks/government.

The poster above neglected to mention the very serious reasons some doctors have been referred to the GMC.