To think there is some kind of weird push towards the far right?

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I’m the first to admit that I am not the best informed - I prefer to keep my life stress free and simple as much as possible, and don’t have a TV, don’t read papers, and only listen to the radio when I’m driving (which is quite often). For my own mental health I prefer to live in my own little bubble.

But even with my limited exposure to media, I’ve noticed on Radio 2, both on the news and Jeremy Vine’s show, Reform are being given so much air time considering their paltry amount of MPs, the polls are being discussed regularly even though we’re years from an election. More than once listening to the radio I’ve thought the way they’re talking makes it sound like Reform winning the next election is a done deal, and thought to myself that this is how self fulfilling prophecies happen.

My algorithms on FB are seriously messed up. Despite having never been remotely interested in anything in the least bit right wing, all of a sudden I’m getting endless posts from knuckle dragging ‘patriot’ groups that I don’t even follow, with really horrendous and openly racist comments, thousands of them, which somehow FB are allowing to remain even though any kind of hate speech has always been censored on there. Why are these posts suddenly being allowed and pushed in my face?

Alongside this there seems to be a new story pretty much every day about the latest scandal involving Labour (again reported by the BBC), ok these things aren’t great although compared to the Tories’ rap list from their last spell in government, are fairly small fry really. It seems like there’s an active push for people to rebel away from the left just as the far right are gaining momentum.

Has anyone else noticed this or am I talking shite?

Unfortunately we have sleepwalked into this situation. Over recent years the billionaires and tech nerds have been organising especially in America to overthrow democracy and create a fascist right-wing state. It's already happened in America and now they are trying to do it in the UK too - cue Elon Musk speaking at the white nationalists march telling US to get rid of OUR elections?!!!

By all accounts people are also disillusioned with the Tory party which cannot be construed as leftie. Op is talking about a pull to the far right and this is a very important discussion to have at this moment.

Yeah, I was wondering about this too. Then I realised- journalism is basically dead. The days of there being real investigative reporting, nuance and an attempt at neutrality are gone.
The BBC like the lot of the media outlets are all about clicks. I don’t think that it’s hit me until now.
I know media and press has always been skewed a bit towards certain parties but now it’s like the ONLY agenda is traffic.
I’m shocked too OP at the way BBC are pushing Reform like they are the inevitable next step.
And since social media became so ubiquitous the world has gone fucking nuts. Trump, Brexit, now this pushing of fascism. It’s scary.
( I don’t include the fight for sex based rights in this- that was a grass roots fight and is about actual human rights- the opposite of fascism)

What do you personally think should be done about people voting for right wing parties or having right wing thoughts OP?

Does the OP mention right wing or does she refer to the far right? Why are you purposely conflating the two?

I can't understand why someone would even want the contemplate voting for Reform who want to remove your human rights, a lot of people don't bother reading through their policies they just jump on the bandwagon.

The white paper is due to be published in October - look me up and we can have a discussion about it then.

I may disagree entirely with what they are planning, or it could be the best thing to happen to SEND support for a generation - who knows?

My guess is it will be much like the children's social care reforms - with some positives and some negatives.

And maybe check your own bias and understanding before you call people ignorant as you did prior to your edit. I have a pretty indepth knowledge of the system from both a personal and professional view point. Just because I questioned your view, does not make me ignorant 🙄

And speaking of SM- this site is being trolled like there’s no tomorrow with far right agitators. Its fucking infested.

The Overton Window has shifted so much that JK Rowling is now been accused of being "far right" and our leader thinks some women can have penises, so I am curious as to OPs opinions on what she considers the bog standard right and what should be done about them and their thoughts (this includes the "far right").

I posted earlier with an incorrect link. I linked a bill that has already been published in 2024, which also impacts send families, one's like mine who ended up with no school that could meet need and having to educate away from schools. This bill does not address EHCP.

But I need to address some inaccuracies in your post here.

Without an EHCP a school or LA cannot be held to account over education provision so it is incorrect to state that removing EHCPs does not remove legal rights.

Judicial review can be brought, as a last resort, against an LA that fails to make the provision under an EHCP and that is a powerful tool for families to ensure that their children receive the education they need. Without this then they do not have the ability to enforce provision,

I also find your idea that overstretched teacher's can replace EHCP provision for children frankly laughable, have you asked them what they think of that?

Labour has already reduced choices for SEN families by it's introduction of 20% VAT on private schools. Families who might have chosen smaller classrooms for their children who can't cope in large noisy environment have been impacted by this already.

Many children simply just cannot function in busy classrooms with any amount of support.

I bet you were surprised when Trump won.

Russia/Putin, russian bots etc
They did it with 2016 USelections/Cambridge Analytica, they did it with Brexit, last Romanian elections etc etc they will do it again and again
The aim is to destabilise the West

Even if only one British man in a thousand committed rape and one in five immigants committed rape then it would still be the case that the majority of rapes were committed by British men. Really yours is a nonsense argument, especially when we can exclude the immigrants.

Immigration is another tools being used to destabilise the west.

Removal of EHCP does not mean removal of rights if it is replaced by a different mechanism confer those rights

If when the white paper comes out in October they not outlined how those legal rights will be conferred then I will whole heartedly agree with you that they are not doing the right thing.

Wouldn't it be much better for children and families for them to be able to access their needs in a way that wasn't so formally process driven and reduced the need for appeals and judicial reviews?

And if you re-read my comments about support for additional needs in schools, you will see.I was advocating for a total overhaul of the education system - because like everything else, it is broken beyond measure. I'm not arguing for simply tacking additional SEN support onto existing teacher workloads, I'm talking about a complete overhaul which would make things better for pupils and teachers.

As for private schools - the VAT issue shouldn't even be a factor for SEN parents because mainstream should be inclusive and where a child does need to be in specialist provision then the places should be available and paid for by the state!

Good grief - its no wonder they can't make any improvements when people are shouting that proposals won't work before they even know what the proposals are!

I agree but also there is no denying our streets do look and feel very different in the bigger towns and cities so it is no surprise people are starting to question if this is a situation they are comfortable with.

Define ‘far right’.

There’s a difference between the right and the far right. I’m also sick of this left vs right rhetoric, constantly.

I will be voting for Reform, the only party that will get me to the ballot box.

I don't know about a "push", but it is worrying how many people don't seem to understand how algorithms work or can't recognise AI. There's a lot of people very angry about things they can't even seem to define well.

No - the arguement of let's ban all immigrants and reduce the less than 10% of sexual assaults they commit and 15% which receive convictions while ignoring the 85% commited by British nationals and actively colluding with known abusers is nonsense.

If you want to reduce sexual assault then campaign against all sexual assault, not just those assaults that are committed by people you dont like.

We’re getting flooded with a lot of right wing American money for a reason. The tech companies will have less oversight and the oil and gas giants don’t want green energy. Trump tried to get our NHS last time he was in power and Farage will give it to them making himself lots of money in the process.

The fact that we don’t know who paid for Farage’s house in Clacton and the media are downplaying it. His partner couldn't afford the house so did Farage get her to pay for it thus saving lots of tax? the media that were calling for Angela Raynors blood are suspiciously quiet now.

Farage caused the whole thing with the boats. After Brexit the agreements we had with those countries to return migrants were no longer there so we couldn’t send those boats back.

It is even more worrying how many people don’t seem to understand how places like Meta allow their algorithms be manipulated by companies like Cambridge Analytica etc

Id argue that any/every party has moved further right on the political scale purely by default, caused by the lack of any real left wing/left leaning parties now.

Labour, traditionally left wing and more socialist, havent been left wing for a long long time. Blair brought Labour to the centre, and we all know what happened when Corbyn threatened to return it to its roots.

So if everything has moved to the right, then those traditionally right wingers have moved further right

I don't really understand the claim of troll bot influence with regard to sex based rights.

Is the idea that people wouldn't have been bothered about the issue otherwise? Unless you think Russia influenced politicians like Sturgeon and Theresa May to support self ID, and various business and institutions to fire gender critical women, purely in order to get an angry pushback, that seems like an over elaborate explanation.