To think there is some kind of weird push towards the far right?

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I’m the first to admit that I am not the best informed - I prefer to keep my life stress free and simple as much as possible, and don’t have a TV, don’t read papers, and only listen to the radio when I’m driving (which is quite often). For my own mental health I prefer to live in my own little bubble.

But even with my limited exposure to media, I’ve noticed on Radio 2, both on the news and Jeremy Vine’s show, Reform are being given so much air time considering their paltry amount of MPs, the polls are being discussed regularly even though we’re years from an election. More than once listening to the radio I’ve thought the way they’re talking makes it sound like Reform winning the next election is a done deal, and thought to myself that this is how self fulfilling prophecies happen.

My algorithms on FB are seriously messed up. Despite having never been remotely interested in anything in the least bit right wing, all of a sudden I’m getting endless posts from knuckle dragging ‘patriot’ groups that I don’t even follow, with really horrendous and openly racist comments, thousands of them, which somehow FB are allowing to remain even though any kind of hate speech has always been censored on there. Why are these posts suddenly being allowed and pushed in my face?

Alongside this there seems to be a new story pretty much every day about the latest scandal involving Labour (again reported by the BBC), ok these things aren’t great although compared to the Tories’ rap list from their last spell in government, are fairly small fry really. It seems like there’s an active push for people to rebel away from the left just as the far right are gaining momentum.

Has anyone else noticed this or am I talking shite?

Of course they weren’t right wing enough! At what point did they do anything conservative? Vote Labour or Conservative, you get the same result.

Well let's face it, that's why you would vote for Reform, hardly big on civic duty are they, the individual and the pursuit of personal happiness is the only concern and if that means attacking the rights of people you don't agree with, so be it, indifference to those around you!

I didn’t say it would did I, and I don’t think most critics of the government do either. But just because the alternative is far worse doesn’t mean we should accept ineptitude in the current government, or be afraid to say that’s it a shit show.

Fortunately, and much to comrade Starmers chagrin I’m sure, we don’t live in a totalitarian state so we can say what we think without fear of retribution…at the moment. Even Starmers own MPs have written him off…a damning indictment of a PM with such a majority after only a little over a year.

I really didn’t want to play whataboutery, but the fact you are complaining about this (which is your right) begs the question what do you think reform plan to do about this issue? Have you been paying attention to what’s been said about this from them?

Oh, those white men who usually mug and sexually assault people have been put out of a job by Johnny Foreigner, probably. That’s usually the rhetoric.

Oh my goodness. I'm not a reform voter. I've never ever voted Tory.

I'm just pointing out ONE reason that people feel let down by Labour.

People on this thread appear to live in a world where Labour cannot be criticised for any of their policy decisions because the alternative would be worse.

That's batshit.

It's the fact that we can't hold Labour to account for policies that harm vulnerable people that drive people to vote for other parties.

Yes, surely the dry run was Brexit, it has made us all poorer!

It's the 'these people' attitude of the left towards others that has got us to where we are.

In what world is Starmer a 'comrade'?

It’s not really a push towards the hard right for the sake of it. People are just desperate to get away from both Labour and Conservative and Farage is the most visible option, speaks well and appears to talk sense.

And don’t think that Labour’s rap sheet isn’t serious already. They have definitely hurt the economy and additionally, they have hurt little pockets of people very badly indeed for tiny/absolutely zero gain. Reeves seems to operate this way - she pretends she won’t hurt working people, but then hurts pockets of people by stealth. I know a German teacher at a private school - school struggling badly after VAT/extra NI so they’ve cut German out. Teacher now has no job. But hey, she didn’t hurt working people did she?

And some things are worse when they are done by Labour than by anyone else. They claim to hate people having second homes - but they have them themselves.

It easy to see how the far right rises.

That fact that controlling your borders is now considered ‘far right’ but a vocal minority of far left fanatics is why people turning to the right. Keep going, you are the best recruiting agents for Reform.

So that makes more ok?

You are happy for public services to get worse then and for massive welfare cuts that will be far more radical than now to the point that deserving disabled people will lose their benefits and kids will lose even more of their special education provision?

How about the fact that certain history topics that paint Britain in a bad light will be erased from the school curriculum and books banned from libraries that they don’t agree with and don’t want people to see? (so much for freedom of speech and expression, eh?)

That’s not even an exhaustive list. Is all that okay by you?

Can you hear that sound? It’s the drumbeats getting louder - we are getting ever closer to the end of this utterly wretched government.

Many of you know this to be true, in your hearts.

Let the data and the news flow show you the path.

I think it’s this. People are fed up are feeling like they aren’t being listened to.

Same here.

And look at the Kirk assassination: a right wing man assassinated, by someone with very left views. The left don’t agree with the death penalty after a criminally guilty verdict in court, but they are ok with dishing the death penalty out themselves to someone who hasn’t actually committed a crime?????
And it isn’t just the assassin. Plenty of people don’t mind that Kirk has been assassinated because they think he deserved it. People who dont agree with the death penalty.

No - and neither have you because they haven't actually provided any detail about what their reforms will look like, let alone gone into formal consultation.

All I've seen are headlines about them potentially scrapping EHCPs and an assurance that the legal right to support will be maintained as well as an additional £billion in funding while they figure it out.

There has been no detail of what will replace EHCPs.

I have professional and personal experience of the SEND system. It is broken beyond measure and education for the most vulnerable children has already been destroyed.

EHCPs do not work - fewer than half are completed on time, even fewer are reviewed regularly and even when they are in place the support outlined in them is often not available or is terrible quality. They are inflexible and do not easily allow schools and health services to be flexed according to a child's changing needs.

They also create a two tier system between those with severe enough SEN to qualify for an EHCP and those that don't.

I'd like to see them replaced with a more flexible approach, for all but the most severe SEND, while maintaining a parents legal right to challenge for services. In fact, I think all children should have a school led education plan that caters to their specific strengths and needs.

I want to see schools become more inclusive places so that moderate additional needs are automatically catered for and I want to see a complete overhaul of the national curriculum which is flexible to need and learning styles.

Isn't the rise in popularity of similar always following after higher immigration years? V4, post covid. Pretty sure there were similar events in past too

False dichotomies like yours, perpetuated by the Establishment right wing media- 43% of whom, Editors, Newspaper Columnists etc. went to private school have got us where we are today and they are doing very well indeed, the problems they write about that we are all feeling are not going to impact them one bit!

Brexit wasn't left v right, in fact the people I know who were so against it were those who voted for the Conservatives and worked in the City!

I can hold Labour to account for plenty of things such as,

I don’t like the fact they cut SEN provision
I don’t like the fact they won’t remove the two child benefit cap
I don’t like the fact they attempted to tighten the PIP criteria making it even harder to claim
I don’t like how the WFA threshold was set so low and I was glad they increased it again and reinstated it to the most needy.

But using the ‘have you seen what they are doing to SEN funding?’ as an argument was silly since it will get even worse with reform.

I didn’t know you weren’t a reform voter, I haven’t read your posts, but my point still stands regardless.

No one thought Trump would get in

This is the problem with the left. They think everyone agrees with them. It was quite clear there was a big movement towards Trump and that he might win.

https://bylinetimes.com/2025/09/09/bbc-accused-of-pro-reform-bias-as-lib-dems-launch-campaign-to-end-wall-to-wall-farage-coverage/

Like it or not, they are currently the most popular party in the UK with polls having them streaks ahead of the others. The MSM has to cover them as a result.
Instead of bleating about having to hear about and from them, maybe we’d all benefit from trying to find out why people are turning to them?

As for algorithms- mine don’t appear to have changed, so it’s interesting that the OPs has. I have always had a fair amount of right wing stuff popping up. I think it’s a good thing. Keep your enemies close etc.

Really, that is your reasoning? Ridiculous argument. We do have our own home grown deviants, why do we have to import more? The countless assaults that have happened because we let undocumented males roam our country NEED NOT HAVE HAPPENED.