To think there is some kind of weird push towards the far right?

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I’m the first to admit that I am not the best informed - I prefer to keep my life stress free and simple as much as possible, and don’t have a TV, don’t read papers, and only listen to the radio when I’m driving (which is quite often). For my own mental health I prefer to live in my own little bubble.

But even with my limited exposure to media, I’ve noticed on Radio 2, both on the news and Jeremy Vine’s show, Reform are being given so much air time considering their paltry amount of MPs, the polls are being discussed regularly even though we’re years from an election. More than once listening to the radio I’ve thought the way they’re talking makes it sound like Reform winning the next election is a done deal, and thought to myself that this is how self fulfilling prophecies happen.

My algorithms on FB are seriously messed up. Despite having never been remotely interested in anything in the least bit right wing, all of a sudden I’m getting endless posts from knuckle dragging ‘patriot’ groups that I don’t even follow, with really horrendous and openly racist comments, thousands of them, which somehow FB are allowing to remain even though any kind of hate speech has always been censored on there. Why are these posts suddenly being allowed and pushed in my face?

Alongside this there seems to be a new story pretty much every day about the latest scandal involving Labour (again reported by the BBC), ok these things aren’t great although compared to the Tories’ rap list from their last spell in government, are fairly small fry really. It seems like there’s an active push for people to rebel away from the left just as the far right are gaining momentum.

Has anyone else noticed this or am I talking shite?

Yes, I know. I said so twice. We learned that at school. We also participated in, and profited greatly from slavery first. You can't pick and choose, it's all part of our history.

I mean, I think by the end of the war a majority of people's focus was on equality within society rather than patriotism, they wanted something better for their children hence a historic Labour landslide that gave Clement Attlee’s government a big majority.

So the UK was a far worse place when most people had "Christian Values" than it is today where people seem to hold little value in things other than celebrities, sports teams and social media? Is that right?

Name another civilisation that ended mass slavery?

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Politics have replaced religion. That’s why people cling to their beliefs so firmly.

People's focus was on getting enough to eat, to suggest their focus was on "equality" is just leftist nonsense.

Why? I haven't denied that we ended the transatlantic slave trade.
You're doing the very thing you accuse "the left" of doing, picking and choosing, selective memory, erasing the bits you don't like.
It's all our culture. Good and bad, it shaped who we are today.

Yes - I learned about that in school - and it was a good first move showing a burgeoning understanding of human rights (which the right currently want to reduce)

But lets not forget that it cost us money because we had to compensate the slave owners for the loss of their 'property' and did not compensate former slaves!

Yep, and the people on the left just can't see how they've been indoctrinated into their Religion and how the right only exists because the people who support it are thick and can't think critically.

Yes, we had to pay the slavemasters, how else could we have stopped it?, we then patrolled the Atlantic ocean, of our own violition, to stop others creating misery, we led the way and we should be proud of it.

I think there are lots of people just feeling lost and frightened. I know I am.

I can see that goverment spending is out of control and they seem powerless to stop it. Our debt in the UK keeps climbing.

Can't get a doctors appointment, I hear ambulances take ages to come now, lots of stories here about A&E being a warzone. Prices going up for basics, police seem on their knees and unable to deal with basic crime, house prices are scary.

All and all for the average man in the street the country feels like it is losing it's grip on the basics.
We also seem to have a contagious 'won't work, claim benefits' sweeping the nation. Like people used to be embarrased to be 'on the dole' and now they seem to be quite smug about living off benefits. I realise it's not as simple as this and some are working and claiming benefits too.

Tories seem to have vanished. I mean I can barely remember who the leader is at the moment they are so quiet. Labour appear to have no backbone to stand up to the public and make hard decisions. Not helped of course by RR crying in public and AR tax fraud thing recently. None of this inspires the general public to feel safe in the hands of this goverment.

So who is left to vote for, to aim for, to pray will come and 'save us'.

That's what I think all the right wing stuff is about. People feel we are out of options and of course the right wings are making the most of it.

If this goverment started making hard decisions and sticking to them then I think the far right stuff would die out.

At the moment it feels like nobody is running the country and people I think are 'grasping at straws'

Just my thoughts.

What history are you referring to - British or another country?

So if Leftists are indoctrinated and Rightists are thick, where are the correct, critically thinking people?

What about those in the middle? Where do they fit?
I'm interested to know what you think "the left" hold as values?

Utterly this. I know Reform voters. A mix of people of different ages and differing levels of wealth, who previously voted Labour or Conservative or not at all as they hadn’t reached majority until the last election.

They are all prepared to own the reasons why they vote Reform, and those reasons are based on their own day to day real life experiences, not based on the messaging from X or Facebook or the Daily Mail. None of these people attend marches. It’s a mistake to write off what people experience daily.

Still no specifics then?

Ours. I say this as I've been learning about the meals our grandparents used to eat in the late 40's, 50's and 60's, just to survive.

I think people would like to celebrate the good, because no other nation has achieved as much or given more to the world.

We can acknowledge the bad, without having it used as a cudgel to beat us with and an excuse to dismiss an entire culture as awful and worthless.

‘Who cares if British culture falls by the wayside? It was all a dreadful history of oppression anyway’ - no. It wasn’t, our history is something to be proud of, and people resent being lied to and lied about.

It terms of equating politics as being the new or a replacement for religion - this doesn't apply to those in the middle.

ColdSalad is referring to ColdSalad’s motherland - Russia😁

So, we were the fist civilisation to end mass slavery and our country sacrificed it's men, not once, but twice, in their hundreds and thousands to help save Europe from dark forces.

But yeah, that's not really important say the cultural marxists........

Who has said it's not important? Please give examples.

By making it a crime to own slaves?

We did a really good thing in stopping slavery - no-one is disagreeing with that.

You were the one who mentioned how much it cost - but it only cost what it did because the state essentially bought the slaves.

How would you feel if any of the perpetrators in recent modern day slavery cases were given compensation instead of prison sentences?

Are you British, why do you want to denigrate our culture?