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To think there is some kind of weird push towards the far right?

795 replies

Checkcheckout · 16/09/2025 01:07

I’m the first to admit that I am not the best informed - I prefer to keep my life stress free and simple as much as possible, and don’t have a TV, don’t read papers, and only listen to the radio when I’m driving (which is quite often). For my own mental health I prefer to live in my own little bubble.

But even with my limited exposure to media, I’ve noticed on Radio 2, both on the news and Jeremy Vine’s show, Reform are being given so much air time considering their paltry amount of MPs, the polls are being discussed regularly even though we’re years from an election. More than once listening to the radio I’ve thought the way they’re talking makes it sound like Reform winning the next election is a done deal, and thought to myself that this is how self fulfilling prophecies happen.

My algorithms on FB are seriously messed up. Despite having never been remotely interested in anything in the least bit right wing, all of a sudden I’m getting endless posts from knuckle dragging ‘patriot’ groups that I don’t even follow, with really horrendous and openly racist comments, thousands of them, which somehow FB are allowing to remain even though any kind of hate speech has always been censored on there. Why are these posts suddenly being allowed and pushed in my face?

Alongside this there seems to be a new story pretty much every day about the latest scandal involving Labour (again reported by the BBC), ok these things aren’t great although compared to the Tories’ rap list from their last spell in government, are fairly small fry really. It seems like there’s an active push for people to rebel away from the left just as the far right are gaining momentum.

Has anyone else noticed this or am I talking shite?

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Goldenbear · 16/09/2025 09:41

FirstCuppa · 16/09/2025 09:33

Exodus? Where are these extra people coming from? I feel a lot of the polling and statistics and numbers for these things are completely false. Who, other than the terminally unemployed men, is tuning in to GB News? Who has time? They don't have the concentration span to watch it for any length of time!

Yes, I see your point and actually the 'exodus' maybe an illusion, I just realised I am falling for the mantra 😱 but I was thinking of articles like this https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/media/2025/08/gb-news-is-coming-for-the-bbc-and-sky

GB News is coming for the BBC and Sky

Your weekly dose of news and gossip from journalism, broadcasting and beyond.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/media/2025/08/gb-news-is-coming-for-the-bbc-and-sky

FirstCuppa · 16/09/2025 09:42

loulouljh · 16/09/2025 09:34

GB News is regularly winning in the ratings....

"The ratings" - honestly!
It's all bollocks really, isn't it? Who is sitting about watching it other than the unemployed? No thinking person and I'd like to think most of our country doesn't fall into that category, despite what we keep being force fed. It's simply not true. I talk to people in the shops and they aren't mentioning "that interesting piece I watched with Farage in"

loulouljh · 16/09/2025 09:43

FirstCuppa · 16/09/2025 09:42

"The ratings" - honestly!
It's all bollocks really, isn't it? Who is sitting about watching it other than the unemployed? No thinking person and I'd like to think most of our country doesn't fall into that category, despite what we keep being force fed. It's simply not true. I talk to people in the shops and they aren't mentioning "that interesting piece I watched with Farage in"

!!!! Incredible.

FirstCuppa · 16/09/2025 09:44

Goldenbear · 16/09/2025 09:41

Yes, I see your point and actually the 'exodus' maybe an illusion, I just realised I am falling for the mantra 😱 but I was thinking of articles like this https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/media/2025/08/gb-news-is-coming-for-the-bbc-and-sky

Yes, plenty of articles but no real evidence. It's all to whip us up.

FirstCuppa · 16/09/2025 09:45

loulouljh · 16/09/2025 09:43

!!!! Incredible.

Go on then, what was your most recent highlight? What will you get the grandkids to watch?

Goldenbear · 16/09/2025 09:45

ColdSalads · 16/09/2025 09:37

What I find frustrating is the Left's ability to blame anyone and anything, other than themselves, for the step to the Right.

SM aside there are a plethora of reasons, the Left just don't want to hear them, let alone give them any credence.

Yes, including 14 years of austerity that has caused irreversible damage for many living in the most challenging of circumstances.

Checkcheckout · 16/09/2025 09:45

AngelinaFibres · 16/09/2025 08:00

It's the 'these people' attitude of the left towards others that has got us to where we are.

‘These people’ wasn’t an insult. It’s a fact that when Reform had their successes in the local elections, many of those voters were people who had never voted before, and there’s data to support that.

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YourLemonTiger · 16/09/2025 09:46

FirstCuppa · 16/09/2025 08:32

But why the BBC? It doesn't rely on revenue. It is meant to be balanced, not populist clickbait. Educate, Entertain, Inform.
The mis-reporting of numbers at the Anti-Brexit march is where I first noticed it; a few hundred turned into a few thousand when a million or more turned up.

I think part of the problem is that many people don't see the BBC as balanced, including me.

I first started to side eye them a bit before the last but one General Election. I was watching a live leaders debate on TV and Farage was talking about the NHS. He said its a national health service not an international health service and quite a lot of the audience cheered. It was reported on the BBC that he was roundly booed for that comment which I knew wasn't true. I was surprised. I don't particularly like Farage but I also don't want major news establishments misrepresenting things about him.

Up until covid I got most of my news from the BBC and always had done. Then I started to notice little nudges here and there to keep people following the govt. covid policy. I read a BBC verify item on infection control that I knew to be wrong from previous work in healthcare.

That's before you get to the BBCs inability to report correctly re: sex. I don't expect the bbc to call a TW a man, but a calling them a woman is just inaccurate. I don't understand why they can't use trans woman/trans man unless they have an agenda to push.

They are supposed to be neutral but I see that less and less. Worse, I now think they are an unreliable news source, no better than GB news and they seem to subscribe to the belief that if you say something enough it must be true.

BlueandPinkSwan · 16/09/2025 09:46

WandaWomblesaurusWonka · 16/09/2025 01:13

Have you thought about what has made people so disillusioned with the left that they are gravitating toward the right?

!00% right in all respects with this. The Left are all ducking useless and wetter than the English Channel.
If you disagree, that's okay because you are entitled to your opinion like I am, it's called freedom of speech. Potential name calling wouldn't make any difference either, it's just words and I, for one, am not bothered.

orangegato · 16/09/2025 09:46

Uncontrolled immigration has made my town unrecognisable and unpleasant. Tories enabled this and Labour are continuing it. Labelling me far right for disliking being the only English person in my own country is why the left is being destroyed.

Goldenbear · 16/09/2025 09:47

FirstCuppa · 16/09/2025 09:44

Yes, plenty of articles but no real evidence. It's all to whip us up.

Yes but unfortunately the BBC have demonstrated their susceptibility to this pressure as their content and coverage of Reform is sometimes like a party political broadcast!

Checkcheckout · 16/09/2025 09:48

I have to go to work now and won’t be back until late this evening but I will be back, in case anyone accuses me of starting a thread and then disappearing. I haven’t had a chance to read through everything posted so far yet, but it’s certainly been eye opening.

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Reallyneedsaholiday · 16/09/2025 09:49

Checkcheckout · 16/09/2025 01:07

I’m the first to admit that I am not the best informed - I prefer to keep my life stress free and simple as much as possible, and don’t have a TV, don’t read papers, and only listen to the radio when I’m driving (which is quite often). For my own mental health I prefer to live in my own little bubble.

But even with my limited exposure to media, I’ve noticed on Radio 2, both on the news and Jeremy Vine’s show, Reform are being given so much air time considering their paltry amount of MPs, the polls are being discussed regularly even though we’re years from an election. More than once listening to the radio I’ve thought the way they’re talking makes it sound like Reform winning the next election is a done deal, and thought to myself that this is how self fulfilling prophecies happen.

My algorithms on FB are seriously messed up. Despite having never been remotely interested in anything in the least bit right wing, all of a sudden I’m getting endless posts from knuckle dragging ‘patriot’ groups that I don’t even follow, with really horrendous and openly racist comments, thousands of them, which somehow FB are allowing to remain even though any kind of hate speech has always been censored on there. Why are these posts suddenly being allowed and pushed in my face?

Alongside this there seems to be a new story pretty much every day about the latest scandal involving Labour (again reported by the BBC), ok these things aren’t great although compared to the Tories’ rap list from their last spell in government, are fairly small fry really. It seems like there’s an active push for people to rebel away from the left just as the far right are gaining momentum.

Has anyone else noticed this or am I talking shite?

You’re not talking shite. The powers that be, are pushing a far right narrative, and too many people are falling for it.

FirstCuppa · 16/09/2025 09:52

FirstCuppa · 16/09/2025 09:45

Go on then, what was your most recent highlight? What will you get the grandkids to watch?

Ah, tumbleweed.
Because it's a load of boring old men ranting on about fuck all.

Hot air like the old white men desperately clinging on to power before they die trying to avoid a prison sentence by lying their arses off for one final hurrah.

GB News and Trumps own sycophantic channel is not taking over from the BBC. Yes some reports and reporters in BBC like a bit of the spectacular but it seems to be evenly spread on both sides.

ColdSalads · 16/09/2025 09:52

Checkcheckout · 16/09/2025 09:45

‘These people’ wasn’t an insult. It’s a fact that when Reform had their successes in the local elections, many of those voters were people who had never voted before, and there’s data to support that.

Respectfully, you have no idea what is going to happen, this isn't a push to the right, it's going to be an overwhelming shove.

Goldenbear · 16/09/2025 09:54

ColdSalads · 16/09/2025 09:40

No, you're being paranoid. My FB reels are full of positivity, surfing and good news. When you get something on your feed you don't agree with, block it, eventually the AI get's the message.

Yes but you are only going to do that if you categorically disagree, it you are curious then these algorithms will suck you in. Besides, even when you don't agree, you have to keep blocking and reporting many times, FB is completely dead now as a result.

Shakeoffyourchains · 16/09/2025 09:54

We've had over a decade of nothing but vague slogans and chants from the right.

"Protect our women and children"
"Take our country back"
"Make Britain Great Again"
"Stop the boats"

But ask them to spell out the actual plan and they rarely do. Is it a full ban on asylum seekers? All migrants gone? Mass deportations? Stripping out any legislation they think sounds remotely socialist?

Even when you get them to admit they just don’t like people who are different to them, they still can’t explain how targeting those groups will actually make their lives better.

Stopping the boats won’t end homelessness. Deporting migrants won’t get you a doctor’s appointment. Scrapping equality laws won’t stop violence against women and girls.

But that vagueness isn’t a bug, it’s the whole point.
Keeping it vague works. It keeps people angry but aimless. It gives them something to blame without ever needing to question whether that blame makes sense. It lets them feel like they’re fighting for something, when really they’re just being used to prop up the same systems that are grinding them down.

The most ironic thing is that if you strip the party labels off policies those on the right will consistently support left-wing ideas.The average person, left or right, wants the same thing, a better life for the many. Hell, we even both blame a small group for society’s problems.

The difference is, the left blame those with money, influence and power. The right blame those with none.

ColdSalads · 16/09/2025 09:57

Shakeoffyourchains · 16/09/2025 09:54

We've had over a decade of nothing but vague slogans and chants from the right.

"Protect our women and children"
"Take our country back"
"Make Britain Great Again"
"Stop the boats"

But ask them to spell out the actual plan and they rarely do. Is it a full ban on asylum seekers? All migrants gone? Mass deportations? Stripping out any legislation they think sounds remotely socialist?

Even when you get them to admit they just don’t like people who are different to them, they still can’t explain how targeting those groups will actually make their lives better.

Stopping the boats won’t end homelessness. Deporting migrants won’t get you a doctor’s appointment. Scrapping equality laws won’t stop violence against women and girls.

But that vagueness isn’t a bug, it’s the whole point.
Keeping it vague works. It keeps people angry but aimless. It gives them something to blame without ever needing to question whether that blame makes sense. It lets them feel like they’re fighting for something, when really they’re just being used to prop up the same systems that are grinding them down.

The most ironic thing is that if you strip the party labels off policies those on the right will consistently support left-wing ideas.The average person, left or right, wants the same thing, a better life for the many. Hell, we even both blame a small group for society’s problems.

The difference is, the left blame those with money, influence and power. The right blame those with none.

why is it up to the working class to have a "plan" to solve their issues? The working class don't have any power. They have repeatedly asked the Government to look at their issues, the governments for a quarter of a century have ignored them.

BlueandPinkSwan · 16/09/2025 09:57

orangegato · 16/09/2025 09:46

Uncontrolled immigration has made my town unrecognisable and unpleasant. Tories enabled this and Labour are continuing it. Labelling me far right for disliking being the only English person in my own country is why the left is being destroyed.

I moved out of a toilet in Sussex to get away from this because of the increasing numbers of shifty looking men hanging around in doors ways in town, increase in open drug dealing, gangs of ethnic minorities clashing with serious weapons such as machetes.
30 years previous it was a great place to live then started going down hill with no brakes.
If not liking all that makes me far right then here I am.

ColdSalads · 16/09/2025 09:58

Goldenbear · 16/09/2025 09:54

Yes but you are only going to do that if you categorically disagree, it you are curious then these algorithms will suck you in. Besides, even when you don't agree, you have to keep blocking and reporting many times, FB is completely dead now as a result.

I'm in a good place with mine, apart from getting posts from Sports teams I don't follow.

LegoNinjago · 16/09/2025 09:58

ColdSalads · 16/09/2025 09:40

No, you're being paranoid. My FB reels are full of positivity, surfing and good news. When you get something on your feed you don't agree with, block it, eventually the AI get's the message.

I can reassure you that I am anything but paranoid. I was born and grew up in Russia. I saw how it’s done there, Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, Estonia, Syria, half of Africa, USA etc.
I’ve left just after Putin’s 2nd “elections”.
It fucking horrifies me to watch how USA, UK and some other european countries are sleepwalking into Putin’s perfect shitstorm.

LegoNinjago · 16/09/2025 10:02

orangegato · 16/09/2025 09:46

Uncontrolled immigration has made my town unrecognisable and unpleasant. Tories enabled this and Labour are continuing it. Labelling me far right for disliking being the only English person in my own country is why the left is being destroyed.

Tories enabled this
Did you ever wonder who were Tories biggest donors?

smallpinecone · 16/09/2025 10:02

FirstCuppa · 16/09/2025 09:44

Yes, plenty of articles but no real evidence. It's all to whip us up.

I genuinely loathe this phrase 😄

Why always the assumption that people are so incapable of thinking for themselves that the only explanation is that they’re mindless sheep being ‘whipped up’?

ColdSalads · 16/09/2025 10:02

LegoNinjago · 16/09/2025 09:58

I can reassure you that I am anything but paranoid. I was born and grew up in Russia. I saw how it’s done there, Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, Estonia, Syria, half of Africa, USA etc.
I’ve left just after Putin’s 2nd “elections”.
It fucking horrifies me to watch how USA, UK and some other european countries are sleepwalking into Putin’s perfect shitstorm.

So why am I not affected by "Putin's shitstorm" ?

ColdSalads · 16/09/2025 10:03

LegoNinjago · 16/09/2025 10:02

Tories enabled this
Did you ever wonder who were Tories biggest donors?

Doesn't it work both ways? You've obviously heard of George Soros?