To think Keir Starmer is looking more ridiculous by the day

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I've just seen an interview with Keir Starmer talking in riddles. If he knew then what he knew now then this mess wouldn't have happened. Three hour debate about it tomorrow in Parliament. Surely his time is up. But if a lefty takes over it might be worse.

We already had an excellent ambassador to the US. Karen Pierce had a great working relationship with the Trump team.

Yes I can't wait for that.

You are so right. Don’t forget
Jobs for mates - BJ
Lockdown parties - BJ
Lying to parliament - BJ
Avoiding millions in tax through wifey’s non dom status - RS
Angela Rayners 40k is loose change compared to this.

😂😂😂

And who was responsible for the Tory manifesto?

And yet, none of that is relevant to Keir Starmer. Politicians must by judged by their own behaviour and results, not others'.

Because I'm not sure that "Keir isn't as bad as Boris" is going to be an ongoing vote winner.

Because he didn't destroy a country with Brexit, wasn't a complete joke and lasted longer than a lettuce takes to go mouldy.

I didn't agree with his politics and 100% think that someone that wealthy can't lead a country where a third of children in several regions are living in poverty but he was a step better than the four I mentioned.

The Tories. And who was responsible for voting for it?

So our last PM's crime was....being married to a non dom? Shock horror.

It's a pretty significant thing in a country where a significant percentage of children are living in poverty.

He’s not great but it seems like a lot of people have blocked out the May, Johnson, Truss & Sunak years!

You lost me at “lefty”. Happy to have a sensible, respectful discussion if anyone’s up for that.

Agreed

Are you referring to Starmer as an ex chief executive? He was never a CEO, he's a lawyer through and through. Ex Attorney General

Rather than argue which PM was worse, let's agree they have all been pretty woeful.
Sadly I can't see any stand out candidates for PM, Starmer is no leader but there's no one that I can see with the competence that's going to get us out of this mess. The competition for deputy PM has shown us that. Its all a bit demoralising really.

I hear what you're saying, but I really don't think it's relevant to his competence as a prime minister. You could say that it made Sunak a better PM because he certainly wasn't in it for the cash.

I also think that the partners and children of politicians should be off limits. I include politicians of all stripes in that.

I agree with you there. Its not exactly rich pickings at the moment.

@FrogOfFroggHall- in what way is Farage an excellent politician? He had a job as an MEP in Brussels, working for an organisation that he tried his best to destroy. He attended hardly any meetings, just trousered the cash. After Brexit he kicked up a right stink about fishing, something he could have done something about as an MEP. Since he’s been an MP, how much time has he spent in the US when Parliament is sitting? Farage only cares about Farage.

I’m stunned he was/is a KC. He’s so UN-persuasive. He has no clout at all. Like a wet lettuce. Dreadful leader of our nation.

Tbh I approve of Starmer’s international stance where he’s done a much better job than his immediate predecessors. The current state visit should be good news for the UK, and we’ve done far better in terms of concluding trade agreements that the Tories ever did (ironic really given Starmer was a remainer).

Donestically, not yet persuaded. I am encouraged by the management of immigration but seems to me that the economy is stagnating and if nothing changes there that is positive, then they are one term rather than two which their ridiculously large majority would usually suggest. Still Reform will have to deal with the Tories to be an actual government.

Well, Tory is often used as a term of ridicule/abuse so I suppose that would work

How dare a British Prime Minister ask the British people what they actually wanted? How dare he not concur with the Westminster consensus that only those within the metropolitan bubble know what's best for the rest of the country?

Cameron had his faults, but that was the finest, most honourable thing a British PM has done in a long time.

Starmer has made mistakes but the bigger picture is that the tories destroyed the economy, let pretty much anyone come into the country legally then did practically sod all about asylum seekers etc, especially post brexit. But it seems people are being easily manipulated to blame everything on a new government.

Honestly I despair!

The NI policy and high borrowing costs are causing issues, ie from Labour.