Why does no one in the West care?

[LifeisCruelinAfrica]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czewgl1171lo

150,000 deaths

Women and girls mass raped

Many crimes against humanity. Mass genocide.

What's the end game of any intervention?

To "save" them from one problem and return them to lives plagued with multiple other gender-based issues that we won't intervene on?

What are we really "saving" them from?

I'm sure it goes without saying that of course everyone on this thread 'cares'. I care hugely about human suffering (esp civilians). I'm haunted by things I've read over the years which I won't type out hear so as not to pass on that trauma to others, but basically atrocities happening to poor tribal people across the globe.

But what to do about it? What honestly could Britain or The West have done to stop the vile things I heard logging companies were doing to terrorise Amazonian tribes (beyond cruel)? The UN is supposed to be the mechanism for intervening in humanitarian tragedies - but it moves at the pace of a snail because it has to be democratic and also China and Russia have a place on the Security Council and they MOST DEFINITELY DO NOT have the same attitude to human suffering as most of us do in Western Europe. And they are sometimes behind the people committing these atrocities - in a proxy way.

Humans can be horrible. Throughout history and prehistory we've slaughtered each other in terrible ways. I don't know what you do about it. As has been said, the political climate has changed over the last 20 years and any intervention in, say, Africa, is now viewed as imperialist white-saviourism (look at the view taken now of Live Aid! - they've really turned on that inititative).

The West is in decline and the 21st Century will belong to China, mainly. We're seeing the first effects of this right now and we don't like it. I'm not sure China feels any particular moral duty to check suffering across the globe!

Yes and I stated why I think that is.

And I dont want to be crass because I fully acknowledge that their circumstances are horrendous, but where would be the support from the British public?

People won't support mass refugees to GB or spending millions more in aid at a time when the Budget is about to hit Brits in the pocket again against ever declining public services and an unsettled public.

Well Said 👏👏

Plus - the phenomenally wealthy Arab countries of the Middle East (Saudi, The Emirates) - they're not short of a bob or two, and they love weaponry.

Why don't they step in - they're nearer to the conflict than us. I often roll my eyes when wars cause population displacement in the Middle East. Somehow, it's seen as the West's job to help and to absorb refugees from Syria etc.

Hey Saudi, Dubai and other rich countries - why don't you step up and do your bit for these refugees?

Not interested? Hmmm.

I care. I don't know what the heck I'm supposed to do about any of it though so I tend to avoid the noise for the sake of my own mental health.

What do you want 'the West' to do, other than sanction the belligerents and send aid - which we already do? Military intervention?

They have huge amounts of money and don't appear to distribute it much.

Saudi Arabia has contributed over £3Bn of aid to relief efforts in Sudan ffs.

Maybe encourage the rich middle eastern countries to step up. Many of the problems are in their back yards.

Did you bother to research what KSA and UAE are doing in terms of aid efforts to Sudan before typing this?

But they do! Far more than the West does. A simple google search would show you this.

Maybe thats not enough. They are super rich with their oil sales.

Maybe thats not enough. They are super rich with their oil sales.

They do destroy everything it’s only going to increase. The number of democracies in Africa is decreasing, might makes right takeovers, rape being routinely as a tool of war. I think poverty and hunger makes people desperate. So you blame someone else who can be raped, tortured, maimed and killed in righteous anger. Then your group have the lions share of resources. It’s not anything new but technology makes the scale greater plus it’s played out publicly.

I do wonder if China perhaps has more clout given their investments within the region but I don’t think they go in with the follow my moral code more of a how we can ensure we get paid?

Too busy posturing about Gaza.

Good. I hope it will take responsibility for any refugees from that conflict, too.

So you go from claiming that they aren't contributing everything, to claiming that $3Bn is not enough. ok then.

Yanbu...it's just horrific.

Why not, they can afford it. Should help more.

Free free Sudan....

Oh dear, not trendy enough...

Well that's cheered me up! So they don't spend all their dosh on bombers and missiles.

I hope we can leave it to them to the right thing in a wider sphere from now on.

Again. Google is your friend. Around 5% of the population of KSA is made up of refugees, with de facto refugees from Syria making the largest proportion (nearly half a million).

It gets more of the headlines definitely.