Am I considered far right now?

[Septemberisaweirdmonth]

Years ago I would have described myself as liberal and on the left. Over recent years the things I seem to agree with seem to be considered to be on the right and even far right

Examples:

I see nothing wrong with wanting to retain British culture or the innate culture of any country and see nothing wrong with a country being proud of its flag..as many are-Spain, Usa, Portugal etc etc

Whilst I have no issue with anyone being transgender, I do not believe transgender males should play in female sports, be in female toilets, prisons etc and I don’t believe children should be given drugs to alter their gender.

I think immigration in Europe needs to be controlled.,and quickly

I would be put off a man and likely wouldn’t see him again if he asked to split the bill on a first date. I can pay the bill four times over, but that’s not the point.

I am educated to post degree status and worked full time in my career for many years until I had my dc, I then wanted to and was thankfully able to stay at home. I see nothing wrong with the man going out to work, the mum staying home, taking care of the kids and the house-if that suits everyone and they’re happy doing that. My ideal scenario now would be a nice community, homeschooling and raising kids.

I am not anti abortion completely but my stance leans more towards this angle (I don’t tell anyone this though)

I regularly watched Charlie kirk, whilst I didn’t agree with everything and i’m not hugely religious, I agreed with a lot of his points and found he made his points respectfully. I also regularly watch Piers morgan uncensored

I didn’t agree with the almost forcing of people to have the covid injection

I quite like Trump

I feel embarrassed writing all this down as I feel I can’t really say this in real life

Have I become far right?

So you agreed with some of his opinions, any on that list you agree with?

I never said he deserved to die, his murder was horrific and should not have happened.

Personally, I think that when discussing his opinions those opinions need to be explicitly shown, so that people can understand how abhorrent they are.

This should be shouted from the rooftops.

Which is modern day far-right.

Also, many on the left support open borders, and would happily ship them over to the UK in their millions. Despite Germany doing similar during Merkel’s leadership, which is now coming back to bite them on the arse.

If you were to honestly hear everyone’s opinions around you there’s a high chance you would find quite a few of them abhorrent yet they are probably good people. For example some people think affairs are ok and some abhorrent, the same with abortion, immigration etc.

Wanting to stay home with kids is not a political viewpoint. Both right and left women can and do want this, and both left and right women can and do want to go to work. Both right and left women can and do choose not to have kids at all. It's a personal decision that unfortunately has been politicized.

The far-right version of this is saying all women SHOULD get married young, have lots of babies and stay home with them, and all women SHOULD NOT work outside the home or limit their number of children, quite often supported by cherry-picked Bible verses. Men SHOULD be the only bread winner. And if women work they definitely SHOULD NOT want to, or have any aspirations, they must be miserable and / or in positions that hold no real power because that would emasculate the husband and usurp the God-given order. The more extreme version of far-right says girls should not be educated at all, and if educated certainly not beyond high school level and not in the state system.

I grew up hearing career-women were ugly dirty feminists who hated their children, and the men who let them work were weak wimps. Both were "living sinfully outside God's design". I would classify that as far-right religious belief, the likes of which powers MAGA.

Of course the fact you're a SAHM doesn't make you 'far right.' Give me strength.

What do you 'quite like' about Trump though? What is it?

’Return arrangements’ were incredibly low. We took more than we returned and it’s not easy to do, a few hundred a year.

@easternstandard
That's just simply not true. Numbers forcibly returned up until 2018 were in their thousands with over 14,000 in 2014, and over 12,000 in 2017 - and that doesn't even include those turned away at the port.

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-statistics-year-ending-december-2018/how-many-people-are-detained-or-returned

Returns are increasing again now.

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-system-statistics-year-ending-june-2025/how-many-people-are-returned-from-the-uk

Where did I say that I thought any of what you just said I thought? And to be a bit more specific on what he actually said, he didn't say black people only got jobs because of diversity quotas, he said that some got a very strong helping hand to get those jobs as opposed to getting it solely because they were the best candidate, because of diversity quotas. Which is the case.

It’s reassuring that you accept the legal right of people to claim asylum in any country of their choosing. I don’t actually know anyone who doesn’t accept that there needs to be a vetting process before people are granted legal status. And that is indeed that process - about 30% of asylum applications are rejected and people are removed. Again, a bit more slowly than desirable but quite a lot quicker than they used to be. As you point out, the majority of people seeking asylum are young men, so schooling and pre-natal care is low down on the list of resources you mentioned might be affected and single men are waaaaay down the housing list. What specifically would you change?

They still are entitled to an education and can apply to be a British citizen after ten years. Often means the parents are also able to apply to stay also. But that goes back to my question of why have border control at all if we allowed illegal immigrants. There’s no point having rules if they’re not enforced.

Huh? She quite literally asked for opinions whether or not she was far right. You think it's unreasonable for people to answer that question?
Or is because they didn't answer the way you wanted them to?

You may think those are middle of the road views. Others apparently do not share your POV on that. Whaaaaat? People on the internet don't agree with you? Yes, that's hilarious, because everybody knows it's crazy to disagree with you.

You know the last part isn’t true right? Race can be a factor in some limited cases in deciding between equally qualified candidates. And the only reason that is needed is because of historic and legal discrimination and racism against African Americans.

Not quite. Mandatory education is accessible because there are no immigration checks required but FE and HE are not accessible to people without status. Same with citizenship.

You should be embarrassed to ‘quite like Trump’.

Definitely solidly on the right but it depends how you define far right. E.g. anti abortion views have always existed among quite diverse American Christian communities yet many of those people would disagree with a lot of Trump’s other rhetoric. Liking Trump per se - I’d say that further to the right.

Regarding stay-at-home parenting, it would be pretty rightwing to believe this is somehow naturally more a woman’s role than a man’s, but if you’d be equally happy to work while your partner stayed at home (beyond the obvious period where women have given birth and are breastfeeding etc) then I would say that isn’t a rightwing view. I think it can be hard to separate what we feel we want as individuals (i.e. many women say it just felt right to them to stay at home) from the way we are conditioned from childhood to view gender roles. I will be interested to see if research can ever separate and quantify this in the future.

Covid vaccinations - that was a very strange time and I can see on reflection that the testing periods were not normal or ideal and that some of the vaccines weren’t what they would be now. I do know of two people indirectly connected to me who died of vaccine-related complications from the earliest round of vaccinations (these were the genuine medical conclusions and not hearsay) so while I was pro-vaccine myself, I recognise what a frightening time it was and why there was uncertainty about it.

Wanting a man to pay on the first date as a principle - I can find no logic to justify this that doesn’t explicitly support outdated gender norms. Nonetheless, in a society where women are often still seen as second-class citizens and it can be hard to find many men who truly view and respect women as equals, I do understand why some women adopt ‘standards’ like this example of benevolent sexism as a way of rejecting and setting themselves apart opposed to more obviously harmful forms of oppression. I think this is true of a lot of rightwing views that women adopt - consciously or unconsciously, I think that women recognise how hard it is to operate outside the strictures of patriarchy, and therefore align themselves with the version of patriarchy that they think will offer them most protection.

I would say yes. I'm also interested in knowing what you quite like about Trump?

Clearly a Paedo and your friends told you so. Brilliant. 🤣

now do Biden and his family? He didn’t even hide his kid sniffing and his son cover ups!

Yes. Quite.

Because border control is doing its job; it's not letting through anyone and everyone. People are largely arriving on visas and overstaying. If you want ICE-like patrols to round them up, that's going to cost enormous amounts of money probably for little savings.

I'm not sure anyone here is arguing that we should deport children who didn't have any choice about how they arrived or the circumstances of their birth.

I quite like Trump

Yes, I can see why you're keeping that one quiet.

This black - white / one side or the other - way of thinking is the ultimate issue here. I feel the left have valid points but so do the right. The biggest issue is all of these politicians are in the game for their own gain - not ours. I’m human and can understand why people would risk their lives to flee imminent death or deprivation; but I can also understand that we, as a country cannot sustain the influx of immigrants if we want to re-establish ourselves as a global force and provide to ‘our own’. We all go the same way in the end. I’d like to think that altruism is the only way we can go to sleep with a clear conscience.

After ten years the children can apply for citizenship, and it’s unlikely that they would be old enough to access FE or HE before this point anyway.

You just contradicted yourself. You said it isn't true. Then you said "Race can be a factor in some limited cases in deciding between equally qualified candidate".

Anyway, bedtime for me, so i won't be checking on this thread anymore tonight.

Yes, you are absolutely far right. Extremely so if you like Trump. A convicted felon. Who absolutely is a pedophile.