Freedom of speech isn't tolerated by some

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/comment/2025/09/10/charlie-kirks-shooting-terrible-moment-american-democracy/

Political violence on the rise.

People are getting angry when people have Political views they don't agree with. Freedom of speech must be allowed not shutdown.

Tragic news of a young family man shot by someone today. Please remember he was a human with a family. Violence is never ok.

😆 there we have the left. They fucking hate it when you play them at their own game.

The left are utterly dangerous. That said, it’s never been any different. They are very skilled at mass murder, especially when it comes to killing their own people in when it comes to free speech descent. Like Stalin.

The new left like to protest themselves and cure and cuddly but they are utterly dangerous and a threat. Keep going, you are really showing your true faces.

If you think that's what she did go for it.

Nah, I'm not that crass.

I have no idea why some posters are going on about the left killing him.

At time of writing, no suspect has (publicly) been identified and no motive given.

We have sod all idea who killed him and why.

Why not wait until we have some facts before playing the blame game?

The left progressives are now the fascists.

He played a dangerous game, his way of earning money was to take the lefts idea of the most awful bits of the right and try to defend them. Honestly I dont think he believed half of what he spouted.
Rage baiting in a country famous for gun freedom and poor education and poor mental health support is a silly thing to do.
I do feel that something like this happening in the US was inevitable, and on one level I hope that this sends a message to those people who go online just to spew divisive things from either side in order to enrage people and get views, that maybe that's not the safest way to earn a living and that people might react to their words in real life ways.
Realistically though Charlie Kirk will become a martyr for the far right who wont give gun control a second thought. The us will carry on a little more divided and a little more angry. No good will come of this.

What a horrible post, especially in the circumstances.

Ah don't sell yourself short, you're plenty crass.
You've been throwing around disablist slurs with the best of em on this thread.

I don’t celebrate anyone’s death. I didn’t celebrate thatcher dying, though know many did. I would not even celebrate the killing of the monster Netanyahu. But I am allowed not to feel sadness for the victim. I do feel sad for his family though, esp the poor kids. People should not be killed for their views like this.

But it shouldn’t a dangerous game, that’s the point.

Are weapons and bullets used to answer words? Are we now at the stage where reasoned discussion or debate has gone out of the window? That people are incapable of it, so they just murder those they disagree with?

Apparently so. It’s the death of democracy. When people are killed in front of their families for speaking their opinions and ideas, we’re in a terrible place.

Bless you. Looks like I've attracted a few fans - all for pointing out the double standards x amazed this thread is still going.

@Bagsinthebootbit regardless many are still celebrating or saying he deserved it, or that’s what you get for having the opinions he did. They are ‘unfollowing’ people who show sympathy because they can’t even bare to exist on a social platform alongside someone who expresses sympathy to a 31 year old father that was murdered. That’s appalling and hugely telling, it is showing true colours and they are the opposite of what ‘liberal’ once was.

And they call the right Nazis. Oh dear. This thread has certainly exposed them.

@RealityChequingof course you can. I don’t doubt many people feel like that. But it does say a lot about who they are. And it’s frightening.

First, I think the comparison with a woman wearing a shirt skirt is a good one. She is wearing something she knows will be provocative, in the same way that CK knew what that he was being provocative.

Do they both have the he right to do that? “Yes”.

Do they both have the right to expect that people will not respond to that by assaulting/killing then? “Yes”.

And it’s perfectly possible to disagree strongly with people in the “right” and believe their statements are sometimes reprehensible, and still not believe that CK somehow deserved what he got!

That’s why we have parliaments, so the effects of different laws can be discussed and argued over then voted on.

No it shouldn't be a dangerous game but making people who have access to guns angry is always going to be. They are not the most rational.

Of course he would have agreed that killing people for their views is wrong! He was ALL about debate, and not shutting arguments down.
I disagreed with his politics completely, but he wasn’t pro killing political opponents!

I respect people who have strong views, argue, debate and stand up for what they believe. It shouldn’t be a radical thought that there are intelligent people on BOTH sides of the debate. Left and right. But the growing sentiment is now that anyone who doesn’t share your opinions is stupid or ignorant. It’s laughable, because those people are more ignorant than anyone!

No need for any of that. No need to discuss anything, voice your own opinions, debate, learn from one another, examine why you hold the opinions you do - it’s apparently easier to shoot people instead of engaging with them. A sad state of affairs.

The US homicide rate in 2024 was 68 per million.

The UK was 9.9.

The UK has its problems - but it is far less violent and your average citizen at far lower risk of extreme violence and murder.

He didn’t “live by the sword” though. He lived by debating.

Thank goodness for that. I'm grateful that we don't have the right to carry guns here.