AIBU to assume that the majority of posters read The Daily Mail or The Telegraph??

[Greysowhat]

I relatively new around here but judging from several threads about flags, trans and autistic, people, there seems to be a lot of posters who love seeing the St Georges Cross up everywhere, are anti-trans and wouldn't give much credence to the struggles that autistic people face. Seems to me they must believe everything they read in The Mail or The Telegraph. Or am I being unreasonable?!

Seems to me like most posters probably read the Guardian and support SWP, with a minority who stand out as being centre or centre right.

Maybe I'm just hanging out in the wrong places! 😅

From a lot I read here, if the majority are reading the Mail and Telegraph, it's only for the cartoons.

Sounds like you have been hanging out on a very different bit of the board to the one I am familiar with

Predominantly centre left, I'd have said.

I think it’s a case of blue car syndrome. The spectrum of opinion is really wide but there are always a few hot potatoes that get everyone going.

I don't read either

And that matters to you? get a life

If you read nothing but the Guardian and use Bluesky because you think Twitter is fascist cesspit then I can imagine it's quite jarring to find that other people don't share your world view. Stick around, maybe experiment with a variety of news sources and you might be able to liberate yourself from simple binary thinking and purity spirals.

Just because people have opinions you don’t like, it doesn’t mean they ‘believe everything they read’ in a newspaper you don’t like. Obviously there are many ways people get information and draw conclusions about that information.

Does it matter what newspapers they read? It"s a sad world if everyone on Mumsnet read the Guardian.

Read, yes.
Believe is a different matter.

Different articles are linked to all sorts of sites, I click and read. I don't think you can comment on something if you haven't read it.

oh the irony!

I read (present tense) the Guardian. But I also read (past tense) the Times when it was on a good deal and before they wanted to whack up the price for me. I think it's good to get a spectrum of opinion but I think some of the posters on the flag threads are more Sun readers!

It’s not a hive mind there are lots of different opinions on here.

Having said that, I think the loudest voices are to the left politically. My impression is that more people are against the displaying of the flags then for it on Mumsnet but it depends which threads you read.

There is a lot of discussion about trans issues on the feminist board. I think it’s unfair to say anti-trans. It is well reasoned and logical and has been going on for a long time here. There is a break it down for me thread if you want to understand that point of view rather than just dismiss it as bigoted. Yes, a lot of the old timers are jaded and quite straight in what they will say about this after years of being told that their view should be kept quiet.

There is lots of talk about autism and lots of different experiences - both people who have been diagnosed with or suspect they might have autism themselves and who have children with autism as well as some people who are more sceptical about spectrum and potential over diagnosis.

I read all the papers on ground news. It’s really good. Would recommend…

https://ground.news

I think those with the strongest opinions shout the loudest.

For example Mumsnet is known as an anti trans hotbed because of the number of threads, but I expect most people take a more nuanced view, such as having no issues with using preferred pronouns but not wanting trans women in women's sports etc.

Same with the immigration topic - lots of people seem very pro or against but I expect most users are somewhere in between.

Those of us with more central views tend not to bother trying to argue with those with strong opinions because we recognise there's no point in arguing with strangers online.

The key reason I'm on MN is because of the enormous range of views represented on here. So many wise, funny and interesting points of view. I think you need to give it more time and read a wide range of threads OP.

I hold my hand up and declare that I read the Daily Mail online. I don't pay though, so I miss out on loads, but I 'read' it for the celeb stuff.

Personally I read the Guardian, Observer, Times, BBC, New Statesman and Spectator because I like to hear a range of perspectives.

I won't read the Mail (right wing trash paper) or Sun (on moral grounds, Liverpool family connections) but I'll have a look at most other articles linked to.

Mumsnet is predominantly centre left. The trans/ gender critical thing goes against the grain. This is specific to Mumsnet as it is a cause that the Mumsnet population has taken up with gusto what with it being a feminist site.
The left media have labelled gender critical and trans issues as a right versus left thing which has damaged the feminist cause because it isn’t.

This has always been a hard left site, and it's become progressively less progressive and more radicalised far left over time. The fact that you are seeing centrists standing up to be counted even here is a sign of how utterly sick of being shouted down normal, centrist people are. Anybody who is not radicalised far left is called vicious slurs on a regular basis by a very mouthy minority and mumsnetters got away with that for years.

I read the Guardian, the Economist, Private Eye, Twitter and listen to Radio 3 news. I’m on Bluesky but its very very boring. I’m a feminist who believes it’s important that women are defined as female in law and that we should stand up against homophobia and the policing/othering of ‘feminine’ coded behaviour in boys and men. I also think it is really obvious why the Mail and the Reformograph publish 3000 stories a month on that stuff. I think putting up flags at the moment is a deliberately aggressive act. I think I’m a completely ordinary MN member/poster.

I read the Guardian and the Daily Mail every day - I've found that the truth is usually at a halfway point between the two.

I don’t read either. I am capable of forming my own opinion