AIBU to assume that the majority of posters read The Daily Mail or The Telegraph??

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I relatively new around here but judging from several threads about flags, trans and autistic, people, there seems to be a lot of posters who love seeing the St Georges Cross up everywhere, are anti-trans and wouldn't give much credence to the struggles that autistic people face. Seems to me they must believe everything they read in The Mail or The Telegraph. Or am I being unreasonable?!

100% this.

I do agree about the BBC’s coverage of Gaza. Terrifically biased.

Why they are so biased against Israel and Jews is no doubt complicated. But a core factor must be the insidious antisemitic metropolitan left influence within the corporation.

Whatever the explanation, you’re right. Appalling lack of impartiality towards Israel.

Al jazeera?!

Yes they are appalling I've no idea how they get away with it.

Whichever 'side' their reporters are on we as viewers should not be able to tell.

Their anti Israel bias is so very transparent.

I don’t read the Daily Mail. I’m none of what you say other I believe trans ‘(wo)men’ should keep their dicks out of women’s spaces because I believe in women’s rights. If they want to pretend they are a woman outside of protected spaces then great.

You’re welcome.

I don’t really have a view on what paper mumsnetters in general read, but the majority of mumsnetters do strike me as deeply Tory, not left, in their general outrage at the idea that they should ever be required to think about anyone else or anyone else’s feelings. It’s very individualist, me and my little family (if they like their family which often they don’t, so potentially just me), and fuck everybody else. That thread yesterday by a woman with late diagnosed autism was a case in point, post after post attacking her for having the nerve to tell her family that she didn’t like crowded spaces and wanted to eat somewhere else. People were obviously massively triggered by the idea that anyone might have a condition that meant they had actual needs that needed to be taken into consideration. The nerve!

Women often do get pressured to put other people’s feelings first, so I guess a certain amount of reaction against that is healthy, but mumsnetters definitely take it to its limits.

Totally agree.

I really hate any attempt to label, categorise and then dismiss people and their opinions based on what they are suspected of reading.

I used to work in a place which had a range of newspapers available. I didn’t get the DM so I would read it at work. I found it interesting to read a different approach to the one I was used to. Colleagues would tease me…but they were all reading it in th3 quiet! I roll my eyes when I hear or read on MN the contempt for DM readers - as if The Guardian is the only paper for Right (or Left!) Thinking People. I can’t be doing with narrow-mindedness.

Yep, the rest being owned/run by billionaires with billionaire agendas.

How dare you! It's all about patriotic pride and anyone who suggests otherwise is a far-left loon.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg4p90z1kxo

Agree. Mixed opinions on most threads. Lots of left leaning voices.

Believing in biological reality and protecting the rights of women is important to many women. The threads on trans and 'changing sex' are very logical, science and factually based. Children need protection and help with mental health issues and when some believe 'changing gender' is the answer to all problems it doesn't help the bigger mental health issues.

Autism is a spectrum and so there are many different individuals where autism presents differently some affect individuals mildly and some aspects of autism might have a devastating impact on an individual's life. Often views come from the perspective of the individuals with autism that they know.

Definitely more read those news sites than in the past, yes.

This is a hilarious comment. Do you literally hang around, say this on every thread? I think we all know who needs to get a life!

I have a subscription to the new York times for the games. I don't read the news, but I listen to Radio 4

Actually I think MN has a good range of opinion, left and right, and centre. In fact, if you REALLY drill down, most regular posters will have views on many sides of each spectrum, depending on the subject.

It is possible to be anti something traditionally left, or pro something traditionally right at the same time, life is rarely black and white. Also if you go far enough left, you come back round to the right anyway....... and vice versa!!

Depressing to read this and see how successfully culture war issues like painting flags on roundabouts (a supreme example of peoples’ energies being diverted into something completely pointless) and entitled men in women’s spaces (aka trans ‘rights’) have been used to create fake ‘left’ and ‘right’ identities based on …… nothing of substance at all.

The Mail & the Guardian are two sides of the same coin. Presented differently for different tastes, to make different groups feel self-righteous.

This wasn’t always the case. Sadly it is now; the rich get richer, while the poor paint pretty patterns on roundabouts, & the middle classes bicker over Eddie Izzard.

I am hard left and my priorities are class/wealth inequality and womens rights. I think the flags are a worrying sign of the way right wing extremists have been able to exert influence through social media. I have no opinion on autism because I have no experience of it and am not medically qualified. I think people with a trans identity should have equal rights and not be discriminated against. I do not believe TWAW and do not think they should have access to single sex spaces for women. What paper do I read?

I don't think MNs is far left at all, maybe a mix of centre right and centre left. I've been surprised that Reform are so popular on here.

AIBU to assume that the majority of posters read The Daily Mail or The Telegraph?
I'd say most just click on a few articles in the tabloids but don't read much of it.

Yes. Why not???

Do people even read newspapers these days? I don’t and I don’t think I know anyone who does, apart from my elderly father, on a Sunday.

Yes, online. And some still do buy actual newspapers.

double post error

I don't think people here are "anti-trans" they are pro women keeping their rights as opposed to giving them up to men. As long as trans identified men keep out of women's spaces and accept reality I don't think anyone cares what they do.

Absolutely.