Do people really think PIP claimants are fraudsters?!

[Greedybilly]

As someone with a chronic illness in the middle of claiming PIP I think it's important to point out it's very stressful to go through the process and actually get the benefit.
To those who were inferring it's an easy blag - I would say yes there will always be a few scammers who claim fraudulently ( though god knows how tbh?) the majority have to struggle for years/go through appeals/give up.
Just saying this for balance as I feel MN is turning slghtly into the Daily Fail.

You know that do you? Only my dp, mum, and close friends knew how bad I get.

Also, any idea of the pain and rehabilitation of a knee replacement?

You have no idea unless you've been there.

Who on this thread whos actually talking about themselves has said its easy to claim. All the people who say its easy are talking about random people they know

@Anyahyacinthwell we wouldn't want to tax the rich or anything silly would we.

Someone further up.

.....the Joseph Rowntree Foundation found the rise 2019 - 2024 entirely in line with covid injuries and the rise in the pension age...people who previously would have retired are now unfit for work...nothing at all shocking or unexpected

Who

What is wrong with people saying they have no issue claiming? If they have evidence and meet the criteria then it should be normal for it to go smoothly.
Why is it normal to have to go to court to plead your case? All of the people who go to tribunal and get awarded - that is what is costing money. Court costs etc.

She’s on the jabs now, prescribed by the NHS because she’s that unwell. I personally don’t think weight related conditions should qualify you for sickness benefits. And I say that as someone who’s obese.

Yes I do actually. Masters in economics and a chartered tax advisor. What policies do you suggest we use to fight the ever increasing benefits bill? Why do you think 3 x more teens are claiming PIP?

Oh hang on let me just compile a report on the workings of the DWP, and how to improve the system. I wont sleep tonight, ill quit my job to work on this mumsnet thread question.

If they actually let people retire at a reasonable age a lot of problems would be solved

@CosyNavyLeaderanyone on this thread with actual lived experience is saying how difficult it is to claim.

Obviously SOME people claim falsely; as for any financial benefit. But all the evidence is that it's not common. Most benefit fraud involves failure to declare income: either earnings from an undeclared job or household income from a partner.

Because there's nothing bloody wrong with them 🤣🤣🤣🤣 ohhhhhh my god.

Ah, you now prove you no zero about fiscal policy. Jeez!

I'm refering to my relatives. Not other people on this thread.

What if the weight gain is caused by steroids, antipsychotics, hypothyroidism, pcos, heart failure

Mumsnet people are generally working class/genuine folk maybe??

The thing is, there will be very few people claiming ONLY for ADHD.

It's mentioned on both MY pip form and my Sons, because we're both diagnosed with it, and the form asks you to highlight how each condition you name impacts your day to day.

However, i have no points for any of my ADHD mentions, my pip award is based on my physical impairments and mobility issues... my Sons are to do with his Autism/Dyspraxia.. his adhd is woven through both of those but isn't the main cause of his impairments - probably his sleep disorder is the one place where it has a starring role!

So, simple then? No. Obviously not.

There would be no way to do it without making the process all the more harder for genuine claimants would there.

Its not for the general public to just decide someone isnt disabled enough for help

I have chronic illnesses - they cause pain and mobility problems but I work and claim no monetary benefits. I can't eat the roads or the nhs. Morality goes both ways - if you can manage without the money then don't claim. Everyone should be as self sufficient as possible- if possible.
Your post implies a person less unwell than another is less worthy of heat and food

Underlying conditions, you mean?

@Dramallamafromyorktax the rich/corporations properly?
Young people struggling in an ever hostile and difficult world?
Thanks for your CV btw. Cringe.

Or arthritis like the Aunt in question.

Or arthritis