Rayner Has Resigned

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AIBU to say it isn't unexpected, or a surprise?

@Springhare76 that’s true! She was incentivised not to get proper advice because the non-specialist advice worked in her favour.

In our case, we paid the right amount of tax but it was simply paid late. And we had to pay and £800 fine as a result!

Agree, he’s the only one I like

I know. I've already said she should have taken professional advice.

Pardon?

Angela built her high political profile on attacking tax avoiders, but now she has been revealed as a tax evader herself.

I have no sympathy for her, especially as she quickly played the "mother of a disabled child" sympathy card once her dubious actions had been revealed. Well done to her firm of solicitors for clearly stating their part in her transactions, and not being prepared to be scapegoats.

To accept her version of events, you would have to believe that she did not fully understand the terms of the trust set up for her disabled child, which I find unlikely.
She won't have any problem finding the £40000 tax she underpaid, nor whatever fine HMRC charge her (if any), so she has destroyed her political career for just a few thousand pounds.

So you think it's just coincidence that the honest mistake would have saved her 40 grand?

Honest mistake? Are you joking?

I am going to start making honest mistakes when doing my tax returns. Let's see how that pans out.

The government has just introduced a new corporate failure to prevent fraud offence yet they can't prevent the deputy PM committing fraud. You honestly couldn't make it up.

Yep the excuses are funny.

So if I leave my house in a trust for the benefit of my step-daughter in law and step-grandchild (which is my intention, and I must get round to making my will), would the trustees count as owners for SDLT?

Dare say the only thing Rayner "deeply regrets" is getting caught out.

She needed to go. Being the Deputy PM and housing minister, she should have been more diligent and careful. She should be setting the highest standard of representation and example not thinking of ways to get out of not paying tax. She should have overpaid to be on the safeside rather than underpay.

She only referred herself to the ministerial office on weds because she got caught. If she was diligent, she should have sought tax advice and referred herself sooner, just to be sure.

This - as I said on the other thread they've hoisted her on their own party's inability to go after the super rich. Targeting the middle tax payers and Reeves going after them is now most of their cabinet. If they had taxed the super rich maybe we would have had bigger political fish in the net.

Foolish.

She definitely does not have 'charisma', and they are after her as she was deputy PM.

It depends on the trust structure. Please do not take any advice from here and consult a trust professional. Find one who is CTA or STEP qualified.

no she has resigned from her Deputy Leader role too

It's just another example of why the whole of politics is so bloody disheartening, it doesn't matter which party they belong too. They are all the same, greedy, selfish liars

for those that understand billions show bascially someone did a robert axelrod style take down with rayner

Some worse at hiding it than others.
That's because they rely on the ones signed up to HMRC to get MORE tax from rather than the dodgers.

Agree. Calling people scum isn’t ‘charisma’. She got caught out.

I really really do not like the woman. She has voiced opinions about others actions which she over exaggerated and caused the end of their career. She has voiced opinions which have been harmful to others. To an extent she has been hoisted on her own petard.

She clearly isn’t very bright, she was never fit for high office. Starmer has always used her as a front or scape goat. It’s going to interesting who is used now.

Absolutely thick as mince and lacking in any credentials to hold such high office. Her appointment to DPM made me embarrassed to be British.

She deserved to go.

For me it is not what she did, mistake or otherwise.

It's that coupled with her previous behavior re the tax affairs of others.

If you are going to be aggressive about calling out other people, you have to make sure you are squeaky clean yourself. Otherwise it can come back to bite you big time.

I doubt we've seen the last of her. I think she has some talent and as people on the TV have said, she speaks for/talks to some groups that other high profile people in Labour are distant from.

But now she will probably have to spend at least a couple of years in the wilderness. We'll see whether she decides to come back stronger or call it quits.

General election now.

Yes whilst i don't 100% think that of all MPS, she has done the political classes/lab/govt a great deal of harm.

Wouldn't be so bad if she wasn't constantly banging on about "fat cats" by which she seems to mean anyone with any savings. But makes sure she's managing her affairs to her advantage.