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Angela Rayner tax fail

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Iwishicouldflyhigh · 03/09/2025 12:56

But it’s ok because she was just badly advised.
I’ll remember that excuse next time I fill in my tax return.

But still confused about one can have 2 main homes?

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PropertyD · 03/09/2025 20:21

Lifeinthepit · 03/09/2025 20:19

No it isn't. It's perfectly usual language. Pay out or compensation.

I agree. I had a-friend who had a horrendous birth and uses the word pay out for the negligence that occurred.

Lifeinthepit · 03/09/2025 20:22

Sevillian · 03/09/2025 20:21

You used the term ‘pay out’ which in the circumstances of negligence resulting in life long disability from birth is quite disgusting. There’s no excuse for using such loaded language when a child has been harmed, none whatsoever. You should be seriously ashamed.

Nah. You're just making a big old dramatic fuss.(for some reason) about semantics which are used regularly in that area of the legal sphere.

BIossomtoes · 03/09/2025 20:23

meeleymanatee · 03/09/2025 20:20

So you agree with her tweet that tax avoidance causes death but it’s also ok she avoided tax because we are paying the same rate of tax?

That’s some pretty amazing conflation of a whole load of issues. You’re getting goady now @meeleymanatee, could I respectfully request that you desist and find another poster to interrogate?

meeleymanatee · 03/09/2025 20:23

Sevillian · 03/09/2025 20:21

You used the term ‘pay out’ which in the circumstances of negligence resulting in life long disability from birth is quite disgusting. There’s no excuse for using such loaded language when a child has been harmed, none whatsoever. You should be seriously ashamed.

https://osborneslaw.com/blog/nhs-compensation-payouts-guide/

I believe it is standard legal terminology

NHS Compensation Payouts Guide | Osbornes Law

Explore our comprehensive guide to NHS compensation payouts at Osbornes Law. Understand your rights and the process for claiming.

https://osborneslaw.com/blog/nhs-compensation-payouts-guide/

Sevillian · 03/09/2025 20:24

Lifeinthepit · 03/09/2025 20:19

No it isn't. It's perfectly usual language. Pay out or compensation.

The child didn’t win the Lottery. I’m quite certain he and his parents and his entire family would not think the way damages are calculated is in any way ‘compensation’.

Tell me, has any child of yours suffered a life long disability due to clinical negligence.

Shame on you.

meeleymanatee · 03/09/2025 20:24

BIossomtoes · 03/09/2025 20:23

That’s some pretty amazing conflation of a whole load of issues. You’re getting goady now @meeleymanatee, could I respectfully request that you desist and find another poster to interrogate?

Sure thing!! 😂

utterly hilarious

LittleElfShoes · 03/09/2025 20:25

user9064385631 · 03/09/2025 17:07

Agreed - but quite a drive from Hove though, was there not one for sale a bit closer! 😂

This is clearly a holiday home and not her primary residence. My DH says she’s worth £5million?

Sevillian · 03/09/2025 20:25

Lifeinthepit · 03/09/2025 20:22

Nah. You're just making a big old dramatic fuss.(for some reason) about semantics which are used regularly in that area of the legal sphere.

All lawyers recognise that damages won’t ever compensate for a damaged life.

Lifeinthepit · 03/09/2025 20:26

Sevillian · 03/09/2025 20:24

The child didn’t win the Lottery. I’m quite certain he and his parents and his entire family would not think the way damages are calculated is in any way ‘compensation’.

Tell me, has any child of yours suffered a life long disability due to clinical negligence.

Shame on you.

I used to work in that legal field. And shame on you for trying to belittle the working terminology. Making payouts for children seem a bad thing.

meeleymanatee · 03/09/2025 20:27

Sevillian · 03/09/2025 20:24

The child didn’t win the Lottery. I’m quite certain he and his parents and his entire family would not think the way damages are calculated is in any way ‘compensation’.

Tell me, has any child of yours suffered a life long disability due to clinical negligence.

Shame on you.

I don’t think anyone thinks it’s anything other than utterly awful what happened to her son but no one should be ashamed of using standard and common place vocabulary that is used by legal professionals

Lifeinthepit · 03/09/2025 20:28

Sevillian · 03/09/2025 20:25

All lawyers recognise that damages won’t ever compensate for a damaged life.

Yes agreed. So what would you like to happen to reflect the.damage caused? Because I can confirm that most pay outs are not rejected on the basis money to support the child's needs is rather more useful than an apology or whatever it is you deem more appropriate.

EasternStandard · 03/09/2025 20:28

Sevillian · 03/09/2025 20:24

The child didn’t win the Lottery. I’m quite certain he and his parents and his entire family would not think the way damages are calculated is in any way ‘compensation’.

Tell me, has any child of yours suffered a life long disability due to clinical negligence.

Shame on you.

What word should be used if not compensation?

Sevillian · 03/09/2025 20:29

Lifeinthepit · 03/09/2025 20:26

I used to work in that legal field. And shame on you for trying to belittle the working terminology. Making payouts for children seem a bad thing.

No shame for calling you out on trying to use terminology to put a slant on the mother’s proper use of the trust and the damages in the best interests of her child.

Damages in this sort of case is the only appropriate term.

PropertyD · 03/09/2025 20:29

Telegraph headline - Angela Rayner used £160,000 from a trust set up to care for her disabled son to buy the £800,000 seafront flat at the centre of a sleaze inquiry.
The Deputy Prime Minister sold a 25 per cent share of her house in Ashton-under-Lyne to the trust for £162,500.

Unless this isn’t true.

Lifeinthepit · 03/09/2025 20:29

meeleymanatee · 03/09/2025 20:27

I don’t think anyone thinks it’s anything other than utterly awful what happened to her son but no one should be ashamed of using standard and common place vocabulary that is used by legal professionals

She's just being peculiar now. Presumably an attempt at a distraction from the matter in hand. Which worked for a few posts!

ACynicalDad · 03/09/2025 20:30

Given what she’s said about the last lot avoiding tax she shouldn’t wait and should go. Not sure how she pays her mortgage on a back bench salary, maybe Lord Ali can help.

Lifeinthepit · 03/09/2025 20:30

Sevillian · 03/09/2025 20:29

No shame for calling you out on trying to use terminology to put a slant on the mother’s proper use of the trust and the damages in the best interests of her child.

Damages in this sort of case is the only appropriate term.

Not really. Damages are a different thing from compensation. Legally speaking.

BIossomtoes · 03/09/2025 20:30

PropertyD · 03/09/2025 20:29

Telegraph headline - Angela Rayner used £160,000 from a trust set up to care for her disabled son to buy the £800,000 seafront flat at the centre of a sleaze inquiry.
The Deputy Prime Minister sold a 25 per cent share of her house in Ashton-under-Lyne to the trust for £162,500.

Unless this isn’t true.

It’s the Telegraph which loathes and detests Rayner so no surprise it puts the worst possible spin on it.

Sevillian · 03/09/2025 20:31

EasternStandard · 03/09/2025 20:28

What word should be used if not compensation?

Damages. Ask yourself if having just enough money to provide for the essentials of care for a child damaged for life at birth sounds like a profit making exercise.

PropertyD · 03/09/2025 20:31

its sleazy to use the Trust for personal gain.

meeleymanatee · 03/09/2025 20:32

Sevillian · 03/09/2025 20:29

No shame for calling you out on trying to use terminology to put a slant on the mother’s proper use of the trust and the damages in the best interests of her child.

Damages in this sort of case is the only appropriate term.

I come from an English speaking country that is not the uk and damages would never be used.

PropertyD · 03/09/2025 20:32

Blossom. So what part isn’t true? BTW - it could be completely made up but I don’t think it is.

PropertyD · 03/09/2025 20:33

I have not heard the word damages either. Based in the UK.

meeleymanatee · 03/09/2025 20:35

PropertyD · 03/09/2025 20:33

I have not heard the word damages either. Based in the UK.

In fact I find damages quite abhorrent in this case….

PropertyD · 03/09/2025 20:36

Tomorrow will bring more I suspect. Hopefully gone by the weekend but somehow I think some pp will claim she was run out of town because she is a working class women. It’s nothing to do with that. As a women I love to see women in high political power but she is an embarrassment.

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