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To be shocked people are actually rear-facing their primary age kids

291 replies

EmsandPens · 02/09/2025 02:44

My DD is 4, 5 in December and we swapped her from rear facing to forward facing in January this year. She started primary school recently and I noticed one of her classmates is still rear facing. I know the family from around town but had never seen them putting their kids in the car before and I know this child is already 5 and has pretty long legs for her age.

I know on Mumsnet it’s quite common to hear people saying rear facing until 6/7 is best but I had never actually seen anyone around here doing it.

AIBU to be shocked people actually rear face their primary age children?
Did you rear face your child past 4?

OP posts:
InMyShowgirlEra · 02/09/2025 16:37

RoseAlone · 02/09/2025 09:54

My 3 all came out of rear facing when they came out of baby carriers, around 9 - 12 months with no issues at all and they could see where they were.

Gosh, I bet you shiver when you think about how they would all have almost certainly been killed if you'd been in a serious accident. Thank goodness we have more information to make safer decisions now.

gamerchick · 02/09/2025 16:39

I rear face when I get the chance. Why wouldn't you?

hungrypanda4 · 02/09/2025 16:40

IKnowExactly · 02/09/2025 03:39

Yes, I did. This was over 10 years ago.

One child outgrew it on weight at aged 5, the other was 7.

7?!?!

Annoyeddd · 02/09/2025 16:43

The advised age is 17 when you get them driving lessons and their first car so they can go out with their mates

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 02/09/2025 16:48

Op1n1onsPlease · 02/09/2025 11:33

You don’t need a huge car to fit the ERF seats.

Car sickness I think is a bit of a red herring. All babies have to rear face and I don’t think there are massive numbers of parents crashing their cars because their babies are crying. My kids screamed their heads off in the car as babies, but we coped with it because it was essential for their safety.

I know a lot of people who don't take their babies in the car because the screaming is just relentless. Or, if they do, it's only if they can have another adult sat in the back to supervise/distract.

I was a child who really struggled with car sickness and my parents had me in the front seat as soon as possible, otherwise I would vomit every single time. I can't imagine how horrendous it would have been to be in the back AND rear facing.

Wynter25 · 02/09/2025 16:48

My 3 year old doesn't rear face.

Spookyspaghetti · 02/09/2025 16:58

Take a look at some of the Facebook car seat advice pages and educate yourself about the benefits of rear facing for as long as possible.

I don’t think you should be affronted at other parents keeping their children as safe as possible.

Skyglimmer · 02/09/2025 17:01

My youngest is starting school this week and is still rear facing. She isn't tall enough for a high back booster so will stay rear facing until she is, which will likely be around Christmas just before she turns 5. We did the same with her older brother.

Spookyspaghetti · 02/09/2025 17:11

Cyantist · 02/09/2025 11:52

My DD had just finished reception when we swapped her to forward facing. I was much more shocked that there were so many kids in her class who got into cars at school pick up and had no seat at all - not even a booster.
Rear-facing is much much safer and as I bought an expensive rear facing seat, I was going to get as much use out of it as possible!

On a car journey the other day, I looked over to see a primary aged child in the front passenger seat jumping about not even with an adult seatbelt. All other passengers in the car were adults wearing seatbelts. Now that is shocking IMO!

bumbaloo · 02/09/2025 17:13

Turnups · 02/09/2025 04:54

Why is it shocking? Research shows backward-facing is safer. My youngest moved to forward-facing last month. He’s a small 7.

Edited

Why aren’t cars just made with rear facing passenger seats?

bumbaloo · 02/09/2025 17:16

cornflourblue · 02/09/2025 13:05

I think most parents do their best for their DC, according to the information available to them at the time. It is clear that many posters do/did not ERF, for many reasons - there's no need to be rude to them.

FWIW my DC were over 135cm by age 7/8. When I asked advice from a car safety expert about how to best keep them safely secured in a car seat, they just kept repeating they needed to be in a high backed booster til 12 - they couldnt compute my DC (unfortunately not with me at the time), could be that tall. At 12, DC1 was 160+cm - taller than many adults. I could not get a sensible answer.

There will likely still be someone on here decrying that you were abusive and that they should have been pretzelled in

Rowen32 · 02/09/2025 17:25

Happytoddler · 02/09/2025 11:21

A toddler screaming and crying and throwing up may distract the driver. A quiet happy child who isn’t miserable and sick means that the driver is less likely to crash the car. Also, not everyone has a huge car to fit the bulky rear facing car seat.

Our erf seats took up no more space than the other car seats..

Rowen32 · 02/09/2025 17:28

Chocolateismylovelife · 02/09/2025 12:57

No mention of that at all my dear , and no I never considered consulting a car safety expert when I bought car seats. I consulted the staff at the shop where I bought them from and who trained in fitting the seats safely.

it’s obvious from this thread that times may have changed regarding advice on this , I understand ops shock as do many.

insinuating that I lol at internal decapitation is as sick as your suggestion itself.

There's no room for a lol on a thread about car safety

bootle96 · 02/09/2025 17:58

PigletSanders · 02/09/2025 07:31

It’s bullshit like this that I can’t stand.

Instead of sneering, if it’s something you feel strongly about, try to share information with someone to educate them.

Honestly, the preachy posts on here rival the BF/FF threads on here.

There’s loads of info online about why rear facing is safer. It’s the law in many other countries to be rear facing for far longer than it is here. My children are teenagers but we sat them rear facing for as long as possible. We’ve only ever had small cars, there wasn’t much choice on rear facing seats then but there were some suitable. I Hopefully there is more choice now.

Ask any health professionals who work with children in critical care or in rehabilitation how what seats they use. They will all have their children rear facing for as long as possible and in seats with 5 point harnesses after that. Boosters with normal seat belts will not protect in an accident.

Chocolateismylovelife · 02/09/2025 18:21

Rowen32 · 02/09/2025 17:28

There's no room for a lol on a thread about car safety

lol was at my idea of making cars with rear facing seats, but apologies if it upset you.

lochmaree · 02/09/2025 20:39

Pp's mentioning kids seen on the school run etc in the front seat or no seatbelt etc. I've seen this too and imo is far more shocking than a child in a RF seat! I've seen a YR 4/5 yo in the front passenger seat with no car seat, a 2yo in a car seat FF in the front passenger seat, kids not restrained at all when the car is still moving.

saffy2 · 03/09/2025 17:53

Yes I did. It’s 5x safer. Why wouldn’t you?! 🤷🏽‍♀️ she rear faced until she was 5.5 and I knew her
bones were a bit safer. My son will do the same.

Shopaholic100 · 03/09/2025 18:08

greengreyblue · 02/09/2025 06:48

Wow mine are now in their 20s but they were facing forward much earlier, I’d say around 1. When did that all change?

I have similar aged children and agree with you . I’m sure they were only rear facing up to maximum age 2, then moved to front facing. I’m sure it was the normal at the time. Obviously things change over time with research. Not sure when this changed. New car seats must be bigger to accommodate the longer legs.

NuovaPilbeam · 03/09/2025 18:16

Mine started getting car sick when rear facing around age 4. Forward facing stopped it when everything else failed. We don't travel by car much and mainly travel on roads in our local town at 30 miles an hour. We made a judgement call about what was the right thing for us as a family.

NuovaPilbeam · 03/09/2025 18:17

Mine started getting car sick when rear facing around age 4. Forward facing stopped it when everything else failed. We don't travel by car much and mainly travel on roads in our local town at 30 miles an hour. We made a judgement call about what was the right thing for us as a family.

Vinovidivici · 03/09/2025 18:17

Mine rear-faced until 7 and 6.5, they’re now 13 and 10. With all the information available even then, it is shocking that companies continue to push parents to buy seats which encourage people to put their children at such avoidable risk.

Shelley108 · 03/09/2025 18:27

I RF for as long as I could, had some comments but I put safety first. I’ve seen the crash test videos! And read about internal decapitation.
There are such things as travel sickness pills for kids who are sick!
The reason rear face seats exist is because there has been lots of research done and medical and practical evidence that it is much safer for a child, in FF impact, the child’s head is the heaviest and gets thrown around and the crash causes the most horrific injuries.
Yes there were no car seats or even seat belts when I was young, (70’s baby) but there was a lot less traffic on the roads then, and if families were lucky enough to have had a car it was just one like us.
Research also suggests that the majority of accidents happen very close to home so that ridiculous concept of “oh it’s only down the road” is dangerous, I saw a kid shoved into the footwell of a car while his mom sat in the passenger seat in her mates car as there were no other seats once. She lived at the top of the street 🙄 and I saw a woman strap a seatbelt around her and her 5/6 month old baby once 🤦🏻‍♀️ someone related to my exDH had her grandchild regularly in her car and FF when her grandchild was still very small, honestly the seat buried her. But she said it was because baby wanted to see out the window 🤦🏻‍♀️ God forbid if anything happened!

MargaritaBeafort · 03/09/2025 18:36

Jasmine222 · 02/09/2025 04:57

My kids felt so carsick that I had to forward face them much earlier than I'd have liked to. I'm surprised so many people's kids don't get carsick. I cant even sit rear facing on a train without feeling sick.

Agree, I always book train tickets that way. My youngest DD still gets travel sickness. She screamed in the car until forward facing so was safer for me. Never grow out of it.
I hate on bus when the rear facing back seats are the last left.

MargaritaBeafort · 03/09/2025 18:37

No anti sickness tablets work for me, I’m strange that way.

Traitors2024 · 03/09/2025 18:38

IKnowExactly · 02/09/2025 03:42

My kids both found it uncomfortable when they forward faced and had their legs dangling down.

They loved rear facing. There was room for their legs and they had a better view out of the car windows.

We were in a car accident where a car hit us at five from behind. We had whiplash but the kids were absolutely fine which I put down to them being rear facing.

Rear facing is safest for a head on collision (statistically most likely type of collision), forward facing would have actually been better for your kids if the car was hit from behind. If you watch the crash test simulations you'll see why.