Is The IMF taking Over perhaps just what the country needs

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Ok bear with me. This sounds like an idiotic thing to say because if the IMF are involved it means the country is officially in a mess and the IMF will slash spending and enforce their own budgets and rules. So anyone on benefits might lose them, NHS funding will likely go down, same for the police force etc

It just occurred to me today that the country is in a complete mess and there isn't really any end in sight.

Headlines today - I didn't read the detail but I am just getting more angry, helpless feeling and frustrated and want 'somebody' who has some balls to step in and say enough. Things change from today. Todays headlines are rising taxes, 1/10 high school kids on benefits, families of migrants can claim benefits from day 1 even if they don't speak english.

Now i will caveat this by saying the housing market does need sorted but lets be honest that's not what they are trying to do here - it's just about raising taxes. I also say there is another articles claiming ' a crackdown on bring families into Britain' - something that made me snort with derision giving the whole small boats/protests going on just now.

I mean lets just get to the point. Does ANYONE think RR/KS are able to fix this mess. I know they didn't cause it. I know they have been in office less than a year but if we give them another year are they able to fix it. I personally don't think so. It is going to need someone very tough to brave the mess and take it in hand (Maggie Thatcher where are you now).
So what are we left with - voting Reform - which I have joked about doing but i don't actually think that is the way to go. That's borne out of desperation. So who is going to fix it then.

AIBU to think a complete reset, painful as it will be by the IMF is just what the country needs?

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The ‘ludicrous’ migrant family rule pushing councils to breaking point

One in 10 secondary schoolchildren on disability benefits

You wouldn't think so, the way they slam Labour. I though all was gold shitting unicorns until Sunak was deposed by Starmer in a revolution,

The problem for Starmer and Labour is ‘phase two’ has gone down like a lead balloon, increasing borrowing costs again.

Yes, I thought he made it his life's work.

Yes he pressured the Tories into the referendum. I think it would have had to happen sooner or later anyway as the electorate were never consulted on that level of union and big decisions like that always comes back to get you eventually (it will also happen with mass migration and multiculturalism). The main thing about Brexit that I’ll never get my head around is why we just didn’t simply introduce ID cards and enforce existing EU rules around deporting after 3 months, benefits, no job etc? It would have rendered a lot the leave side arguments redundant

I rather though some bigger boys did it and ran away ?

Are you suggesting there was an agenda around Brexit ?

Never !

Never I tell you.

But even when the Tories were remain or when Labour were in, why didn’t we introduce id cards? I’ve never heard anyone satisfactorily explain that.

UKIP, or have you forgotten?

I'm crying.

UKIP weren’t involved in the Brexit process either

You mean it's almost as if the excuse of Brexit was being used as a cover for something else ?

It's a shame more people weren't allowed to didn't ask those questions during the referendum

Well he has.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breaking_Point_(UKIP_poster)

Lest we forget.

They were also behind the chicken run style cartoon, the one suggesting we were all prisoners of the EU!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-36575924

I wonder if this thread is turning out as expected ? Will we see a sequel with the OP shifted slightly ?

I also retired in my fifties! It’s fab!

'Bit of fun and no great strategy'. Sums up Reform perfectly.

If you have any evidence of ukip being part of the Brexit process, I’m happy to have a look.

I suspect the point being made by some is UKIP et al, having facilitated the referendum result, were not involved in the negotiating process that led to actual Brexit itself

That allows their supporters to continue to claim they were betrayed in those negotiations and that as a result "we" didn't get the Brexit we voted for......

Why? Market reaction today to Labour is pretty much in line with op’s views.

Yes, they weren’t involved at all. I think it would have been a worse outcome if they were, but its disingenuous to say Farrage was involved in the negotiations.

In the words of Eric Idle,
"When you are chewing on life's gristle,
Don't grumble, give a whistle.."

UKIP stepped down in the December election 2019 to facilitate Boris Johnson and helped to promote a Tory win. Once Brexit was 'an oven ready deal', UKIP rebranded to Reform UK and celebrated the leave. Farage was with Weatherspoons founder Tim Martin on the night.

An mn thread which supports Labour is no new thing but it’s not in line with public opinion, or even more relevant to what happens, the market view.

Exactly and isn't it funny to see how the BBC reported news back then!