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Cycling Mikey doesn't deserve the hate he's getting

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ByDandyTurtle · 28/08/2025 20:35

He's not putting fumes in people's lungs from his car and sees people doing illegal activities that kill others or make our premiums go up.

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ConfusedSloth · 28/08/2025 21:36

ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat · 28/08/2025 21:34

He doesn’t “pursue motorists”, he stops them and tell them to behave better. That doesn’t require training.

OP was talking about pursuing motorists though. That's the point. I haven't said a single thing about this guy and said I haven't seen his videos. I was specifically referring to OP's point about pursuing motorists. How many times does that need to be said!?

ChattyGeePeaTea · 28/08/2025 21:37

Mikkymik · 28/08/2025 21:23

The overwhelming majority of people he dobs in aren't actually doing anything dangerous. While they might technically be breaking the law, that's because the law is inflexible and doesn't adapt to every person in every single situation.

Take for example a long line of stationary traffic, with cars inching forward a few feet every couple of minutes. It's true that it's still illegal for a driver to use his mobile phone in that situation, but in actuality it wouldn't be endangering anyone.

Yet these are the drivers he goes after. Same with most other offences. He picks low hanging fruit, people who are going about their day, not being a public nuisance or danger.

And before the smug holier than thou fuckers reply, please tell me you've never ever driven 21 mph in a 20 mph zone.

It takes about 30 seconds for a driver to refocus after interacting with their phone, so a driver who is at the front of a line of traffic texting, thinking "it's fine because I'm stationary," is vastly more likely to cause an accident when they move off from the lights than one who hasn't been texting. So yes, it would be capable of endangering others.

Here is one source for that, there are dozens of others: https://www.onfocus.news/new-study-34-of-crashes-happen-within-60-seconds-of-phone-distraction/

Love from a smug holier than thou fucker who doesn't have "just one drink" when driving, doesn't text "just in stationary traffic," doesn't transport a toddler without a car seat "just a mile down the road," doesn't go through red lights "just behind the last car," doesn't park in disabled bays "just to pop in for a pint of milk" and also doesn't break the speed limit "just by a couple of mph".

New Study: 34% of Crashes Happen Within 60 Seconds of Phone Distraction - OnFocus

New Study: 34% of Crashes Happen Within 60 Seconds of Phone Distraction What if a single glance at your phone was enough to cause a fatal crash? Accor

https://www.onfocus.news/new-study-34-of-crashes-happen-within-60-seconds-of-phone-distraction

Mikkymik · 28/08/2025 21:37

ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat · 28/08/2025 21:36

If they killed someone crossing the road legally at 3am, would you class it as dangerous driving? Or is it just bad luck?

If they hit someone, by definition that would be dangerous driving.

ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat · 28/08/2025 21:37

Mikkymik · 28/08/2025 21:34

In stationary traffic it isn't actually dangerous to use your phone. Nor is it always dangerous to drive a couple of meters on the other side of the road (eg clear empty road, and you want to skip the queue to make a right turn).

If legality is your compass, then doing 21 in a 20 zone is illegal. But if it's common sense then most of CM's victims aren't actually doing anything dangerous.

The punishment of points and a fine certainly don't fit the crime of checking your phone is standstill traffic.

Of course it’s dangerous. A child could run across, not looking left as they don’t expect to. You could hit a cyclist or another car coming round the corner.

Why do you think it’s illegal to use your phone even in stationery traffic?

Chompingatthebeat · 28/08/2025 21:39

Mikkymik · 28/08/2025 21:36

No, he dobs them in. The telling off is just a bonus ego boost. He is the worst kind of human, as his misanthropy is coated in slimy do-gooderism.

Worse kind of human's a bit strong! Not paedophiles, murderers and dictators?

YanTanTetheraPetheraBumfitt · 28/08/2025 21:39

In stationary traffic it isn't actually dangerous to use your phone. Nor is it always dangerous to drive a couple of meters on the other side of the road (eg clear empty road, and you want to skip the queue to make a right turn).

id disagree with this. If you’re in your phone and suddenly realise the traffic has moved the chances are you chuck your phone down and set off in a hurry without properly checking there’s no cyclist filtering through.

the corner he often stands on where people,go the wrong side of the road to turn right (if clear) is dangerous. It’s on a junction. By the time they’ve pulled out and committed to being on the wrong side of the road a cyclist or indeed a car could turn left from the main road into their path.

XenoBitch · 28/08/2025 21:39

TheNightingalesStarling · 28/08/2025 21:33

Because you aren't paying attention to the road.

Yep. I got my motorcycle license years before my car one. When I was in my car, when waiting in traffic, I would be looking around all the time for bikers coming up the middle etc.

There is the SMIDSY campaign (Sorry Mate, I Didn't See You).

zerofeeling · 28/08/2025 21:39

Mikkymik · 28/08/2025 21:37

If they hit someone, by definition that would be dangerous driving.

That isn't the definition of dangerous driving.

ConfusedSloth · 28/08/2025 21:40

ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat · 28/08/2025 21:37

Of course it’s dangerous. A child could run across, not looking left as they don’t expect to. You could hit a cyclist or another car coming round the corner.

Why do you think it’s illegal to use your phone even in stationery traffic?

You can't hit anyone in stationery traffic. That's the point they're making. Starting to move again when you haven't checked properly is obviously dangerous - sitting in stationery traffic is not. Yet both are equally as illegal. That's the point being made. Illegal does not always mean dangerous.

I say this as a non-driving cyclist. It's not a difficult point to understand.

Chompingatthebeat · 28/08/2025 21:40

ConfusedSloth · 28/08/2025 21:36

OP was talking about pursuing motorists though. That's the point. I haven't said a single thing about this guy and said I haven't seen his videos. I was specifically referring to OP's point about pursuing motorists. How many times does that need to be said!?

Bit odd to comment on something you haven't watched.

the5thgoldengirl · 28/08/2025 21:43

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ConfusedSloth · 28/08/2025 21:43

Chompingatthebeat · 28/08/2025 21:40

Bit odd to comment on something you haven't watched.

I didn't comment on something I haven't watched - I commented on what OP said, and explicitly said I wasn't commenting on him or his videos, only on OP's comment. If you didn't read what I said before deciding to have a problem, that's not my fault.

If I started a post about Love Island and said "cats are black but dogs aren't", it doesn't take knowledge of Love Island for someone else to say "I haven't watched Love Island so I don't know what happened with Yasmine but I have a black dog so dogs can be black".

SweetPenelope · 28/08/2025 21:45

Mikkymik · 28/08/2025 21:23

The overwhelming majority of people he dobs in aren't actually doing anything dangerous. While they might technically be breaking the law, that's because the law is inflexible and doesn't adapt to every person in every single situation.

Take for example a long line of stationary traffic, with cars inching forward a few feet every couple of minutes. It's true that it's still illegal for a driver to use his mobile phone in that situation, but in actuality it wouldn't be endangering anyone.

Yet these are the drivers he goes after. Same with most other offences. He picks low hanging fruit, people who are going about their day, not being a public nuisance or danger.

And before the smug holier than thou fuckers reply, please tell me you've never ever driven 21 mph in a 20 mph zone.

Looking at phones, sending messages, watching videos in slow moving or stationery traffic is dangerous. You're not looking at the road or around you. Someone honks and you set off without looking. Just don't.

OhNoNotSusan · 28/08/2025 21:45

what does jeremy vine say?

ConfusedSloth · 28/08/2025 21:45

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It's not dangerous though, is it? Being in non-moving traffic is not dangerous in any way. It's only dangerous when you start to move again. You cannot hit someone if your car isn't moving. The point is that some things are illegal but not dangerous. If you disagree with the very clear stationery traffic example, there are tonnes more I could give you.

Chompingatthebeat · 28/08/2025 21:45

ConfusedSloth · 28/08/2025 21:43

I didn't comment on something I haven't watched - I commented on what OP said, and explicitly said I wasn't commenting on him or his videos, only on OP's comment. If you didn't read what I said before deciding to have a problem, that's not my fault.

If I started a post about Love Island and said "cats are black but dogs aren't", it doesn't take knowledge of Love Island for someone else to say "I haven't watched Love Island so I don't know what happened with Yasmine but I have a black dog so dogs can be black".

He's definitely not on love island

ACynicalDad · 28/08/2025 21:46

If the police did their job he wouldn’t be needed. thank goodness for him. some mutters on our roads who endanger cyclists. I wish there were more like him.

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 28/08/2025 21:46

This bloke’s just another vigilante. He may be a middle-class-approved cycling vigilante. But he’s doing the same thing as Ring doorbell camera zealots putting their stupid videos on Facebook warning of suspicious men in the neighbourhood, or online ‘paedo hunters’.

Leave detection and enforcement to the police.

ByDandyTurtle · 28/08/2025 21:46

ConfusedSloth · 28/08/2025 21:45

It's not dangerous though, is it? Being in non-moving traffic is not dangerous in any way. It's only dangerous when you start to move again. You cannot hit someone if your car isn't moving. The point is that some things are illegal but not dangerous. If you disagree with the very clear stationery traffic example, there are tonnes more I could give you.

Not dangerous to be on your phone whilst driving?

Right ok

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ChattyGeePeaTea · 28/08/2025 21:46

ConfusedSloth · 28/08/2025 21:31

Yes. Like I asked, why does it matter if they don't see your filtering through non-moving traffic? You've said it's dangerous but I genuinely don't understand why.

Because drivers get frustrated in non-moving traffic, and as soon as it begins to move again they will often try to change lane, or will suddenly move out and accelerate if they think they can make their turn into the next street if they go quickly. Or they are carrying a passenger they're dropping off who thinks it will just be quicker to walk the last 50 yards and suddenly throws their door open. If they're on their phone and don't notice a cyclist or motorcyclist filtering then that can end very badly.

ByDandyTurtle · 28/08/2025 21:46

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 28/08/2025 21:46

This bloke’s just another vigilante. He may be a middle-class-approved cycling vigilante. But he’s doing the same thing as Ring doorbell camera zealots putting their stupid videos on Facebook warning of suspicious men in the neighbourhood, or online ‘paedo hunters’.

Leave detection and enforcement to the police.

He's not. They are all breaking driving laws. The rest aren't

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scalt · 28/08/2025 21:47

I'd never heard of him until now, but I'm not surprised. One day, he'll piss off the wrong person, and come to a sticky end. (I'm surprised that none of the JSO crowd got run over.) And I'm not going to line his pockets by clicking on him.

And is his cycling always impeccable? He never rides on pavements, never ignores red lights, obeys 20mph zones? (Some fit cyclists can ride faster than that.) Does he have insurance, as lots of people preach that cyclists should have it?

Incidentally, if it's illegal and allegedly "extremely dangerous" to operate a phone in stationary traffic, why do modern cars have touch screen controls for so many things like heating, so you have to look at the screen to adjust it, when previously, with an actual tactile switch, you could do it by feel, keeping your eyes on the road?

YanTanTetheraPetheraBumfitt · 28/08/2025 21:47

OhNoNotSusan · 28/08/2025 21:45

what does jeremy vine say?

They’re good mates

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 28/08/2025 21:48

ByDandyTurtle · 28/08/2025 21:46

He's not. They are all breaking driving laws. The rest aren't

That’s not true. He’s just another self-important ‘crusader’.

ByDandyTurtle · 28/08/2025 21:48

scalt · 28/08/2025 21:47

I'd never heard of him until now, but I'm not surprised. One day, he'll piss off the wrong person, and come to a sticky end. (I'm surprised that none of the JSO crowd got run over.) And I'm not going to line his pockets by clicking on him.

And is his cycling always impeccable? He never rides on pavements, never ignores red lights, obeys 20mph zones? (Some fit cyclists can ride faster than that.) Does he have insurance, as lots of people preach that cyclists should have it?

Incidentally, if it's illegal and allegedly "extremely dangerous" to operate a phone in stationary traffic, why do modern cars have touch screen controls for so many things like heating, so you have to look at the screen to adjust it, when previously, with an actual tactile switch, you could do it by feel, keeping your eyes on the road?

Yes his cycling is impeccable but if you really wanted an unbiased viewpoint you would watch some reaction videos at the very least

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