To ask if you'll be attending the anti fascism protest on 13 September

[Whatafustercluck]

I'd like to go in solidarity with like minded people, but worry about it turning violent. I won't be taking my children and will likely be going alone. Lots of people I know detest Tommy Robinson but will stay away due to the likelihood of trouble, but I really want to help send a message that racism and hatred won't win. Is anyone here considering going, or decided to stay away?

Cultural change is not destruction?

So I guess colonialism wasn’t a bad thing after all then. No need for the British to feel any guilt or shame. I’m glad about that. So often we’re told that the cultural changes we brought were unwelcome - but I guess those cultures too just had to face reality in a connected, mobile world as you say.

Completely agree. Well said!

If you do go:
Stay on the edge of the crowd. Stay away from those who are not happy and relaxed and are too shouty and giving off agitated vibes. Watch out for those who are there to cause trouble, stir up trouble.

Have an exit plan.

Plan your route and where to leave at different points along the way and how to get home. Paper copies of phone numbers and maps if you don't know the area well.

Leave if it gets tight-crowded or there are surges or there are signs of agitation, leaving early is better than getting kettled or caught up in violence . Watch the body language and organisation of the police. They are likely to get info on trouble makers well before.

Walk a couple of stops further to get to a station or bus away from the crowds.

Dress sensibly with decent shoes to protect your toes, and for the weather. Decent pockets to protect valuables. Bag under coat etc.

Much better to go with someone you know, if not have someone whom will want to know where you are and whether you are safe as a contact to update.

Thank you 🙂 All very helpful advice.

There is so much wrong with this post that I don’t know where to start!

When the narrative fits it’s all good but not in other situations it would seem…. Smacking of hypocrisy to me.

@Serpentstooth
Good Morning..just seen on the news , all the channels that Tommy Robinson WILL NOT BE FACING CHARGES.ANY,NON, ZERO CHARGES!! For the incident you mentioned yesterday when he apparently kicked someone in the head you said....
Just happy to update you..
Have a great day!

This is such amazingly sensible advice for anyone attending either march.Great post! x

Yes, I saw that yesterday. I'm sure Yaxley-Lennon will be pleased.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg3y4em4v2o
British Transport Police (BTP) said it had presented evidence to prosecutors concerning the incident, which took place on 28 July, including footage of Robinson pacing next to a person lying motionless on the floor.
On Wednesday, the force said that the Crown Prosecution Service had concluded there was not enough evidence to bring charges. The alleged victim did not want to provide a statement to the investigation, BTP said.
In a post on X, Robinson, 42, said he had been defending himself, and questioned why he had been arrested.
In July, BTP said that a man had been found with "serious but non-life-threatening injuries" following an incident at the station, and was later discharged from hospital.
[...]
In a statement on Wednesday, BTP said: "Following a report of an assault at St Pancras station on July 28, detectives from BTP quickly launched a full and thorough investigation, which involved a 42-year-old man being arrested on suspicion of GBH at Luton Airport on August 4.
"Officers worked at pace to gather evidence, including CCTV footage and witness statements, however, the victim did not wish to provide a statement to the investigation."
The force added that following a review of the available evidence, the CPS had concluded that there was "not a realistic prospect of conviction and therefore there would be no criminal charges in this case".

Like what?

If you don't have a problem with allowing undocumented male migrants into UK perhaps you would like to offer a place in your home to one?

Good, glad to hear it.

I want to but not sure I trust the police.

Why do people as uneducated as you constantly compare colonialism to migration.
Organic cultural change which happens to societies naturally with the massage of time and movements of people is not remotely akin to the blood soaked legacies of colonialism and empire building.

Pick up a book.

The opposition to colonialism was not “opposition to cultural change”.

British colonisers did not merely move foreign countries while living under the governance of those countries.

Because the victim refused to make a statement (I wonder why?) and without it the CPS says there’s no chance of a successful prosecution. Smells bloody fishy to me.

It's bizarre to me why you think the march is racist or will be violent. It's a peaceful protest on free speech and against illegal immigration. Who's being racist? what are you protesting against? The last march was peaceful, lots of families, women and children. Why are you afraid of people who are concerned for British rights, values and people?

It's bizarre to me why you think the march is racist or will be violent. It's a peaceful protest on free speech and against illegal immigration. Who's being racist? what are you protesting against? The last march was peaceful, lots of families, women and children. Why are you afraid of people who are concerned for British rights, values and people?

@llizzie

Genuine asylum seekers have a legal route to the UK, which is well known.

Britain has closed almost all legal asylum routes except for Ukranians.

www.amnesty.org.uk/resources/truth-about-safe-and-legal-routes#:~:text=And%20the%20partners%20and%20children,other%20countries%20asylum%20from%20persecution.”

I don't believe that there is excessive fascism in the UK so no.

I see.countries such as Afghanistan, Iran and Russia to display pretty much all the core characteristics of fascism but any protest would not have a iota of impact to those governments so will not waste my time on that.

People have very strong views. They can march if they like as long as they obey the law. I beliieve the law is about to change to say you may not cover your face on a march but currently you may unless the police ask you to remove the face covering so do check the law before going on a march.
As for who will win the 2029 election we shall see. Democracy is the best system on the planet. I have a lot of faith in it.

I’m going Tommys mob will at Waterloo while anti people will be Russel square just make sure you arrive and leave with a few others. If your outside London you could Google your local stand up to racism group many are running coaches

My city ran out mosleys mob in 1930s and now are standing up against tommys mob.

Your speak as though your city is united in solidarity against those protesting against the current immigration situation…. that’s a lot of delusional wishful thinking on your part.

There's a lot of it about isn't there? Poor fools, won't learn from history. I'd feel sorry for them but they're so vicious, I can't. Nigel and his poodle collection will no doubt save the world, I think that's what I'm expected to believe? Sorry, can't do it, no doubt I'm at fault.

Surely the best way to ensure the 13/9 event is entirely peaceful (which is a stated aim), is to not turn up and run a loud, aggressive protest against it?

Nonsense.

https://immigrationfacts.campaign.gov.uk/safe-and-legal-routes-to-the-uk/