To be devasted the roundabout in my town has a crappy 'flag' painted on?

[Liesmorelies]

I nearly threw up when I saw it this morning - what a horrible shock.

It's a very small town in the Midlands near a city. Yes it's ex-mining but does reasonable ok now, not deprived eg no contextual offers for my dc for uni, but not massively desirable or trendy. Has a Labour MP now but hasn't always in recent years. Voted for Brexit but only just. In 2019 more people voted against Tories AND Brexit than for them - split the vote so we still got a Tory, but still.

In other words, I did not expect this. It's horrible - looks ugly and badly done even before you get started on the thinking behind it. AIBU to ring the council on Tuesday and ask when they are going to deal with this vandalism?

I did a four hour round-trip on the motorway today too and the amount of flags on bridges was shocking - just make it stop.

They are speaking out though it is just that our authorities are not listening. It is the same people but our authorities have turned their backs on them...doesn't fit the agenda does it?

Yes they did target some kids of middle class etc, grooming happens to all classes - again using stereotypes doesn't help victims. How does being poor make you vulnerable to grooming if you are not in contact with a groomer? It doesn't. The only thing that makes you vulnerable is groomers. That is all. Put a groomer in a room with a range of kids and all children are vulnerable. Remove the groomer and none are vulnerable. not rocket science.

We can do more but when the agencies in the muslim areas are even saying these girls are reporting to us but no one is listening then what can they do?

Paedos rape kids because they are kids. That is why the same paedos were raping white kids, brown kids, black kids etc. They chose their victims based on access to them. They had access to many brown kids - easily within their own communities that is why there are so many victims. I agree that it is harder for them to report but ignoring them shouldn't be the case.

So one groomer raping white kids is doing that because of race but then you also say it is because they were classist too and then they go home and rape their own kids and that is because they are racist and classist too? Makes no sense at all.

There just aren’t enough homes being built or funded.

We’d need to have built accommodation for 10 million people over the last decade to keep up with the net immigration influx, that’s a City bigger than London! It’s either ideological or someone is benefitting financially, but mass immigration on recent scales is beyond any doubt hurting the average person of the U.K’s quality of life.

The painting of roundabouts is wrong. It is divisive and intrinsically linked to the extreme right. They are using this tactic to stir up arguments and anger. It makes a lot of minority groups feel uneasy. It’s hard to counter the argument that there is nothing wrong with being patriotic. There isn’t - but this is not showing patriotism. It’s a knowing wink to everything they stand for. This is why they use it in this manner.

It’s not about the flags! It’s about the INTENT behind them all of a sudden.

Semiotics.

10 million is factually wrong.

4 million is right.

And due to our aging population we need those immigrants to plug the gaps in workforce and to keep our economy going. Without them our quality of life would be significantly worse.

Operation Raise the colours is the best thing to happen in society in ages, it has united many and continues to do so.

If you felt sick at the sight of a roundabout, be prepared to keel over when you see these bollards!

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Is the yellow bit to represent the piss stains in our society?

So you hate your country’s flag bet it reminds you of first aid box? Lack of patriotic feelings in some British people is so unmatched anywhere else in the world. Objectively speaking most flags do not have much aesthetic value but people love their flags because they represent their country and people.

“The best thing to happen in ages”

You need to get out more.

It’s an embarrassment and worryingly far right. The intent behind the flags is scary.

If only we had a reference point in history for rampant nationalism promulgated as patriotism and the dominance of one flag above all others, all the while blaming a minority group for the ills of a nation.

Oh yes, we do.

Oh dear, how sad ….. that’s the best thing to happen for a long time….

You need to stop being so bitter.

No, not really. Idealising a time when people lived in, frankly, terrible conditions, doesn’t make very much sense. That’s why they left service and never went back. And I suspect our mining and mill worker ancestors would far rather have a bit of health and safety and warm house in winter.

And if you believe in Christian values, perhaps read the story of the Good Samaritan.

Lastly, what’s happened over the past 25 or more years is some bad leadership hut combined with macro economic forces. Capital is king - that’s what makes the world go round and that’s what drives migration of all sorts, whether it’s an influencer moving to Dubai or someone leaving a war torn country for a new life. These are not random events and if more people looked beneath the surface, they might act, think and vote differently.

Do you think the folks rushing to put flags up are doing it for that reason?

The free Palestine protests have hardly changed history, most people just ignore them. I think you need to get out more.

Where has 10 million come from? Net migration has never been 1 million a year! Pre Brexit it was around 200k to 300k and peaked higher than that in 2022 and 2023 but has since started coming down again.

While we have net immigration we also have falling birth rates.

There is a conversation to be had about levels of immigration but that needs to be an honest conversation.

That is not how you spell bollocks but well done for spouting so much.

Are you actually, seriously and knowingly aligning yourself with Tommy Robinson?

I rather think the point of the OP has been proven.

A roundabout about 5 miles from us has been painted with the St Georges flag.

Plot twist: we live in Wales 🤣

Racists really are thick as mince. Patriots my arse.

Or in Scotland where flags are proudly displayed. Maybe the objectors should visit and tell the Irish and Scots to take down the flags. That would be fun to see 😀

No, no, this is different, honest! Those people were bad and weird, not like us. We’ve got good reason, we’re the good guys

yeah, pull the other one. You don’t wake up one day in a fascist state, there is a build up. This is the build up

Well, I wouldn't fancy trying to paint the Ddraig Goch! 😉

And I think you need to read a few more history books if you think I'm talking about Palestine.

It’s terrifying how many posters on here have NO grasp of the parallels.

They see it as a bit of harmless pride and patriotism. “It’s just a flag”.

All the while oblivious to the hatred and racism behind this campaign and how historically this has played out.

Many people feel the same way about the Trans flag of oppression. If people can wave trans flags everywhere why can’t people wave their country’s flag.