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Baby - MIL - XL Bully

303 replies

Koala98 · 23/08/2025 14:03

MIL has an XL Bully at her house, AIBU to say baby can never visit while the dog is on the property even if shut in a different room or garden?

OP posts:
VeterinaryCareAssistant · 23/08/2025 18:32

Your baby so your rules. My daughter very rarely brings her children to my house because my pointer is fearful and barky. Your MIL shouldn't have a problem visiting you instead.

As an aside, I've just spent the day at work where the vet had to operate on an XL full of corn on the cob. Silly dog.

jeffgoldblum · 23/08/2025 18:32

Glitchymn1 · 23/08/2025 18:25

Considering you didn’t know what one was 🤣laughable.

I know exactly what they both are ! And I recognise you and your defence from every single xl thread!

Glitchymn1 · 23/08/2025 18:35

jeffgoldblum · 23/08/2025 18:32

I know exactly what they both are ! And I recognise you and your defence from every single xl thread!

Gives stalker vibes. lol it’s ok if I have a different viewpoint. I don’t have to agree with you. It’s ok. It’s allowed. 😂
My experiences of them have been very different, but they haven’t resembled what’s been shown in the media.

All OP has to do is keep the baby away.

I don’t remember you sorry.

jeffgoldblum · 23/08/2025 18:36

Glitchymn1 · 23/08/2025 18:35

Gives stalker vibes. lol it’s ok if I have a different viewpoint. I don’t have to agree with you. It’s ok. It’s allowed. 😂
My experiences of them have been very different, but they haven’t resembled what’s been shown in the media.

All OP has to do is keep the baby away.

I don’t remember you sorry.

Edited

I’m sorry but my opinion of anyone who champions these “dogs” couldn’t be lower .

LadybugsAndSunshine · 23/08/2025 18:37

YANBU I wouldn’t risk being in a house with one so there’s no way I’d allow my baby to be put at risk.

Glitchymn1 · 23/08/2025 18:37

jeffgoldblum · 23/08/2025 18:36

I’m sorry but my opinion of anyone who champions these “dogs” couldn’t be lower .

I haven’t championed them and I couldn’t care less what you think of me. 😆 I can’t get wound up by strangers on the net, but crack on!

Edit / However I will apologise that I confused your post with another poster.
I don’t think the dogs that meet the BSL were all evil, humans created them and are free to do so again. There are breeds I’d be a lot more wary of.

GlosGirl82 · 23/08/2025 18:38

Avoid. It’s like asking - would I let my toddler be in a house with a hand gun. Too many unpredictable situations, too much at risk and you would be relying on another to be responsible in the face of danger - you are not being unreasonable at all - please put your foot down!

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 23/08/2025 18:42

I'd understand why people wanted to keep these monsters so much if they were at least cute, but they're the ugliest effing dogs I've ever seen.

They remind me of the terrifying weird ugly dinosaur at the end of the new Jurassic Park film, that was created by scientists and then abandoned on the island because it had no appeal whatsoever to dinosaur enthusiasts.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 23/08/2025 18:45

ButSheSaid · 23/08/2025 17:47

It's a myth made up by the woman who was president of the USA staffie club in 1971 😆

Yes Lilian Rant

jeffgoldblum · 23/08/2025 18:46

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 23/08/2025 18:42

I'd understand why people wanted to keep these monsters so much if they were at least cute, but they're the ugliest effing dogs I've ever seen.

They remind me of the terrifying weird ugly dinosaur at the end of the new Jurassic Park film, that was created by scientists and then abandoned on the island because it had no appeal whatsoever to dinosaur enthusiasts.

Yes they are not attractive at all!
they look exactly like what they are , a dog that will rip your face off.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 23/08/2025 18:51

Glitchymn1 · 23/08/2025 17:50

Ok. 😬 it’s not but whatever makes you happy.

It is true.

Baby - MIL - XL Bully
IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 23/08/2025 18:57

jeffgoldblum · 23/08/2025 18:32

I know exactly what they both are ! And I recognise you and your defence from every single xl thread!

Ah she’s the token pit apologist I take it.

DollydaydreamTheThird · 23/08/2025 18:57

I can't believe you even need to ask. If anyone I knew had one of those even I wouldn't be going to their house. Protect your baby not your MIL's feelings.

jeffgoldblum · 23/08/2025 19:00

DollydaydreamTheThird · 23/08/2025 18:57

I can't believe you even need to ask. If anyone I knew had one of those even I wouldn't be going to their house. Protect your baby not your MIL's feelings.

Might be extreme but I would go one step farther , if anyone I knew got one , I’d simply cut them off!

ZestyDog · 23/08/2025 19:03

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c24zn80ng44o
3 weeks ago, not too far from me. The victim had known the XL bully since it was a pup. It was well socialised and had a certificate. Dog dragged her down the street by her arm, almost ripping it off in the process. She was in surgery for 10 hours and faces many more.
So that would be a no.

A set of wrought iron garden gates partically covered in a green wire mesh and fixed with a black sign saying 'No Trespassing, Dog on Premises, Keep Gate Shut'.

XL bully dog attack on Fleetwood woman 'stopped with machete'

Eyewitnesses have told how desperate neighbours intervened to get the dog away from the woman.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c24zn80ng44o

wakemeupwhenseptembercomes · 23/08/2025 19:09

HumanRightsAreHumanRights · 23/08/2025 14:32

I'd rather have an offended MIL than a dead baby.
YANBU

This is exactly it

Someone2025 · 23/08/2025 19:30

Koala98 · 23/08/2025 14:03

MIL has an XL Bully at her house, AIBU to say baby can never visit while the dog is on the property even if shut in a different room or garden?

Surely if you are with her ( and the dog locked in another area) it would be ok?

I can’t stand people who have XL bully’s though, they are usually the ‘rough’ sort and that’s an understatement

Someone2025 · 23/08/2025 19:43

Koala98 · 23/08/2025 14:03

MIL has an XL Bully at her house, AIBU to say baby can never visit while the dog is on the property even if shut in a different room or garden?

Sounds like you married into a lovely family….not

mentallyilltotallychill · 23/08/2025 19:47

I only voted YABU because i think it depends on the dog and owner. Is she responsible? What have your interactions with the dog been like?. how long has she had it? Was it post ban? if so why did she get a banned breed because that feels a bit red flag. Does she understand how powerful those dogs are? Does she minimise that? Most importantly, if shut the dog out would you trust her to keep the dog shut out? End of the day she can always come to yours to see the baby without the dog if she wants to see the baby and if she wont the she is being unreasonable.

Personally, i never had any dogs in the room if i was visiting with my baby because any dog can just “switch”. any dog around a small child can lead to all sorts. I also still have a mild fear of all dogs though and I get nervy around any dog i dont “know”. Also i have never owned dogs.

a good friend has an XL bully (since before the ban) goes out muzzled kept on a short lead all that. Honestly one of the best dogs Ive met hes so gentle and gets scared of the hoover and butterflies, he doesn’t even bark at the door. Great recall, goes to their crate when just told to, stays in one room when friend is getting the door and so calm. Wont get on the sofa with out a command etc. wed go to hers (even now my sons older she still gets it) and said she will put him on a lead, in the kitchen or crate him however best i felt comfortable visiting when with my kid so shes put him in the kitchen back door open and kitchen door still shut with a baby gate (she had the gate so if the dog got too muddy in the garden he wouldn’t traipse it through the house) dog just chilled out wouldn’t even know she had the dog when we were there. Id go into the kitchen stepping over the gate, dog would barely react if at all.

another friend, lab cross type, very “scatty”. Always running round the house barking jumping up on anyone, all over the furnitures, runs out the door any given chance, shed have to bolt out trying to get the dog back, no recall or following basic commands. Shed had the dog 5 years by then and still just says “oh hes being friendly! Hes excited!” We went for a walk once, her dog ran to a leashed dog, other dog owner said “call your dog back mine’s reactive” she had to grab her dog away. Went over once just to get some stuff asked her “oh im bringing my son can you put the dog away for the 10mins we will be there” and she said its not necessary hes friendly. Dog bounded out knocked my son over and was all over him, and “i was over reacting” pulling the dog off. He was 3. Long before covid so there was no reason for poor socialisation.

can name more way more incidents of other dogs like that. Like when my son got bit when he was in his buggy by an off lead terrier owner just “oh he just wanted your sons ball”

based on that for me, id rather the baby in my friends house with the xl and the controls in place, despite the breed (crated or whatever because like i said for me dogs and small children visiting dont go, unless the dogs socialised with children and if its that families dog even then never leave a kid alone with the dog etc).

but yeh only voted yabu because care needs to be taken with all dogs and babies/children. If youd be the same with any larger breed / bully breed (cane corsos being in the news recently, when i was growing up it was Rottweilers) then id get it purely because any attack could be more severe in a shorter amount of time with stronger breeds. that reply was very long but the post lacked context and wanted to provide clarity for my vote.

Aware im probably being bias because the one of (if not the best) behaved dogs
ive ever known was an xl bully.

but if you feel shes irresponsible, wont respect your boundaries, minimises the understood impact a dog like that could have, or pulls the “hes friendly never an issue”card, or the dog is a danger / would cause issue then trust your instinct and say no:)💖

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 23/08/2025 19:51

mentallyilltotallychill · 23/08/2025 19:47

I only voted YABU because i think it depends on the dog and owner. Is she responsible? What have your interactions with the dog been like?. how long has she had it? Was it post ban? if so why did she get a banned breed because that feels a bit red flag. Does she understand how powerful those dogs are? Does she minimise that? Most importantly, if shut the dog out would you trust her to keep the dog shut out? End of the day she can always come to yours to see the baby without the dog if she wants to see the baby and if she wont the she is being unreasonable.

Personally, i never had any dogs in the room if i was visiting with my baby because any dog can just “switch”. any dog around a small child can lead to all sorts. I also still have a mild fear of all dogs though and I get nervy around any dog i dont “know”. Also i have never owned dogs.

a good friend has an XL bully (since before the ban) goes out muzzled kept on a short lead all that. Honestly one of the best dogs Ive met hes so gentle and gets scared of the hoover and butterflies, he doesn’t even bark at the door. Great recall, goes to their crate when just told to, stays in one room when friend is getting the door and so calm. Wont get on the sofa with out a command etc. wed go to hers (even now my sons older she still gets it) and said she will put him on a lead, in the kitchen or crate him however best i felt comfortable visiting when with my kid so shes put him in the kitchen back door open and kitchen door still shut with a baby gate (she had the gate so if the dog got too muddy in the garden he wouldn’t traipse it through the house) dog just chilled out wouldn’t even know she had the dog when we were there. Id go into the kitchen stepping over the gate, dog would barely react if at all.

another friend, lab cross type, very “scatty”. Always running round the house barking jumping up on anyone, all over the furnitures, runs out the door any given chance, shed have to bolt out trying to get the dog back, no recall or following basic commands. Shed had the dog 5 years by then and still just says “oh hes being friendly! Hes excited!” We went for a walk once, her dog ran to a leashed dog, other dog owner said “call your dog back mine’s reactive” she had to grab her dog away. Went over once just to get some stuff asked her “oh im bringing my son can you put the dog away for the 10mins we will be there” and she said its not necessary hes friendly. Dog bounded out knocked my son over and was all over him, and “i was over reacting” pulling the dog off. He was 3. Long before covid so there was no reason for poor socialisation.

can name more way more incidents of other dogs like that. Like when my son got bit when he was in his buggy by an off lead terrier owner just “oh he just wanted your sons ball”

based on that for me, id rather the baby in my friends house with the xl and the controls in place, despite the breed (crated or whatever because like i said for me dogs and small children visiting dont go, unless the dogs socialised with children and if its that families dog even then never leave a kid alone with the dog etc).

but yeh only voted yabu because care needs to be taken with all dogs and babies/children. If youd be the same with any larger breed / bully breed (cane corsos being in the news recently, when i was growing up it was Rottweilers) then id get it purely because any attack could be more severe in a shorter amount of time with stronger breeds. that reply was very long but the post lacked context and wanted to provide clarity for my vote.

Aware im probably being bias because the one of (if not the best) behaved dogs
ive ever known was an xl bully.

but if you feel shes irresponsible, wont respect your boundaries, minimises the understood impact a dog like that could have, or pulls the “hes friendly never an issue”card, or the dog is a danger / would cause issue then trust your instinct and say no:)💖

There is no such thing as a responsible XL bully owner.

You are risking your life every time you go near your friend's dog.

They should be culled.

jeffgoldblum · 23/08/2025 19:58

mentallyilltotallychill · 23/08/2025 19:47

I only voted YABU because i think it depends on the dog and owner. Is she responsible? What have your interactions with the dog been like?. how long has she had it? Was it post ban? if so why did she get a banned breed because that feels a bit red flag. Does she understand how powerful those dogs are? Does she minimise that? Most importantly, if shut the dog out would you trust her to keep the dog shut out? End of the day she can always come to yours to see the baby without the dog if she wants to see the baby and if she wont the she is being unreasonable.

Personally, i never had any dogs in the room if i was visiting with my baby because any dog can just “switch”. any dog around a small child can lead to all sorts. I also still have a mild fear of all dogs though and I get nervy around any dog i dont “know”. Also i have never owned dogs.

a good friend has an XL bully (since before the ban) goes out muzzled kept on a short lead all that. Honestly one of the best dogs Ive met hes so gentle and gets scared of the hoover and butterflies, he doesn’t even bark at the door. Great recall, goes to their crate when just told to, stays in one room when friend is getting the door and so calm. Wont get on the sofa with out a command etc. wed go to hers (even now my sons older she still gets it) and said she will put him on a lead, in the kitchen or crate him however best i felt comfortable visiting when with my kid so shes put him in the kitchen back door open and kitchen door still shut with a baby gate (she had the gate so if the dog got too muddy in the garden he wouldn’t traipse it through the house) dog just chilled out wouldn’t even know she had the dog when we were there. Id go into the kitchen stepping over the gate, dog would barely react if at all.

another friend, lab cross type, very “scatty”. Always running round the house barking jumping up on anyone, all over the furnitures, runs out the door any given chance, shed have to bolt out trying to get the dog back, no recall or following basic commands. Shed had the dog 5 years by then and still just says “oh hes being friendly! Hes excited!” We went for a walk once, her dog ran to a leashed dog, other dog owner said “call your dog back mine’s reactive” she had to grab her dog away. Went over once just to get some stuff asked her “oh im bringing my son can you put the dog away for the 10mins we will be there” and she said its not necessary hes friendly. Dog bounded out knocked my son over and was all over him, and “i was over reacting” pulling the dog off. He was 3. Long before covid so there was no reason for poor socialisation.

can name more way more incidents of other dogs like that. Like when my son got bit when he was in his buggy by an off lead terrier owner just “oh he just wanted your sons ball”

based on that for me, id rather the baby in my friends house with the xl and the controls in place, despite the breed (crated or whatever because like i said for me dogs and small children visiting dont go, unless the dogs socialised with children and if its that families dog even then never leave a kid alone with the dog etc).

but yeh only voted yabu because care needs to be taken with all dogs and babies/children. If youd be the same with any larger breed / bully breed (cane corsos being in the news recently, when i was growing up it was Rottweilers) then id get it purely because any attack could be more severe in a shorter amount of time with stronger breeds. that reply was very long but the post lacked context and wanted to provide clarity for my vote.

Aware im probably being bias because the one of (if not the best) behaved dogs
ive ever known was an xl bully.

but if you feel shes irresponsible, wont respect your boundaries, minimises the understood impact a dog like that could have, or pulls the “hes friendly never an issue”card, or the dog is a danger / would cause issue then trust your instinct and say no:)💖

I’m sorry but all I managed to get from this long post was , head in the sand , won’t happen to me , blah , blah , blah , and I hate to say it but you were lucky your son was bitten by a terrier ! , if it had been your friends dog he would not still be here .

Radiowaawaa · 23/08/2025 20:04

I wouldn’t go to a house with one and definitely wouldn’t send my dc near one.

In fact I would go as far to say that any parent that knowingly has their dc near one of these dogs is a shit parent.

Radiowaawaa · 23/08/2025 20:05

I wouldn’t go to a house with one and definitely wouldn’t send my dc near one.

In fact I would go as far to say that any parent that knowingly has their dc near one of these dogs is a shit parent.

FreebieWallopFridge · 23/08/2025 20:35

There have been multiple stories in the news about XL bullies getting through doors (not managing to get them open, literally getting through them). Once they attack they are nigh impossible to stop. They are stronger than humans and cannot be restrained once they go.

No child of mine would be in house with an XL bully in it. I wouldn’t let them visit a house if I knew an XL bully lived on the same street.

As someone said earlier in this thread: better an offended MIL than a dead baby.

HorribleHisTories15 · 23/08/2025 21:00

Think you might need to consider the family that you have married into as @Someone2025mentioned recently. What is your partner like or what is his opinion on this dog?

we were in Centre parcs this summer in the Neatherlands and one chap brought his XL bully puppy. My dog is a border terrier mix and quite old, and neither he nor I wanted to be near the XL bully who wanted to snap at each and every child that walked or scootered past. Everyone scarpered the minute that guy walked around, and he was ALWAYS walking around with it near to the outdoor bouncy hill , sand pit and petting zoo. Why, why, why. The man’s own kids were all in their teens and their teen son couldn’t hold the dog well. Sadly my experience of such owners is that they are not of the most well educated or of broad intelligence of society.

The deal is done now @OP,you are already a parent, but you need to consider the long term plan with such a man and his family.