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Overheard chat about why people don’t progress at work

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OchreCrab · 21/08/2025 22:27

I overheard a conversation at a cafe about why people don’t progress at work.

Im 40 and was self employed until 32 selling a product with no staff and just myself. I had to move countries to be closer to mum who’s had health issues. I also had a baby so was away from the workforce for a year.

I have a PAYE job and started on £21k and after job hopping a few times I’m on £34k. I hope to progress and I've been placed with a mentor. I have a lot of weakness in my communication.

However I was wondering if a reason why I’ve not progressed is because of ability, how can you tell? I don’t communicate well but I do hope to work on my low self esteem. It’s also hard to get training/support whilst at work due to busy managers. I’ve moved companies and want to stay in this job for a little while longer (due to baby and hopefully learning about the job/industry). Also could get a funded cert via my employer.

i hope when I’m 50 I’m head of something.

Aibu I’m thinking I can’t progress?

OP posts:
OchreCrab · 24/08/2025 22:35

Trovindia · 24/08/2025 22:34

You are so fucking rude. You don't deserve to progress at work if this is how you talk to people who try to help you.

Because I don’t go around giving people multiple disganosis and think I’m right?

ok.

stop being harmful

OP posts:
TryingAgainAgainAgain · 24/08/2025 22:37

NancyCarey · 24/08/2025 22:25

One final point; if you had actually read my posts you would have noticed that I mention several times that I have been assessed and I AM neurodivergent.

Maybe you should take a step back and and consider what it says about your own character that you’ve chosen to attack someone who has defended you in the face of some unnecessarily nasty comments, shown kindness and offered advice multiple times on this thread.

You may well have anxiety and a newborn; I have three fragile autistic children and I still spent time answering your questions because your post resonated with me.

good luck.

Your posts have been excellent, Nancy. Even if OP is reacting very unpleasantly, I'm sure what you've said will help others who are reading this thread.

Merryoldgoat · 24/08/2025 22:46

People have tried to help you, you’re combative and dismissive and obtuse @OchreCrab

The reason is irrelevant whether it’s neurodivergence, lack of self-esteem, depression or something else.

If this is how you behave towards someone like @NancyCarey who has given you her time, experience and knowledge then I’m less surprised you are finding progression at work hard.

Trovindia · 24/08/2025 22:56

OchreCrab · 24/08/2025 22:35

Because I don’t go around giving people multiple disganosis and think I’m right?

ok.

stop being harmful

Because you are really rude.

Stop being an arsehole.

Ps, people who are this rude and can't see it often are ND, and as an autistic person myself I think you most likely are ND. I don't know why you are so opposed to the idea that you might be.

SpidersAreShitheads · 25/08/2025 04:08

NancyCarey · 24/08/2025 22:15

I’m sorry that you find my advice so laughable / unhelpful. You asked me a question and I replied in good faith outlining a number of traits which I had identified from your own words, but I apologise if I have offended you.

I have no motive or agenda here other than to help. You're welcome to ignore my comments, and I will bow out if this now. Good luck in your career and I hope your mentor is able to help you.

@NancyCarey I just wanted to say that as a fellow autistic/ADHD woman, I had a similar impression to you. I think you were extremely kind in trying to help the OP and generous with your time in trying to set things out practically. You were also extremely gracious when faced with a very rude and ungrateful response.

Your words might help someone else if they come across this thread so thank you 💐

Goldwren1923 · 25/08/2025 11:32

You haven’t been able to explain coherently for 5 pages neither what your exact challenges at work are nor what exactly was “overheard” until a poster commented about ND. Actually it’s still not clear what you overheard. So everyone was in fact guessing based on your mumbling 🤷‍♀️

what I can say is that soft skills are paramount for career progression nowadays and it’s very important to be able to persuade people that disagree with you while staying on good terms and generally learn to get people on your side. You probably need to work on your soft skills 🙄

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