What do you think of the flags?

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Apologies if this has been done already.

I live in one of the areas where the flags were started. We couldn’t understand what they were for until it popped up in the news. Apparently the councils are going to be taking them down.

I don’t really have much of an opinion either way but my concern is that they’ll soon become tatty, fall down and leave a mess everywhere. But it seems lots of people are loving them. They do look quite cheery at the moment.

What do people think?

Yabu - they are a mess/racist/health and safety hazard

Yanbu - they are cheerful and patriotic. Keep them

Apparently its embarrassing saying they are illegal 😬

It’s hard to discuss the issue when people don’t understand it. It’s not illegal to claim asylum or to arrive by any means into a country to do so.

if you don’t have a valid claim you are refused asylum and sent back.

As to why it’s mainly men and boys can you not work that out? Is it difficult? The journey- full of criminal exploitation and sexual abuse, the fact that men and boys will be forced to fight? Is it too difficult to understand why you wouldn’t send your daughter?

Sorry I meant daft!!

No it’s wrong because they aren’t here illegally. - I mean it might embarrass you being wrong repeatedly but that’s a you issue

No they’re economic migrants many of them - because their countries have despotic leaders they are all entitled to claim asylum whether they are at any risks or not - and if they are so desperate for safety they would stay in France . They destroy their papers so who knows who they are, most get to stay.
In their shoes I would do the same.

Most are embarrassed by being factually incorrect but some own it. You go!

So. Flags. I'm on a fb page, which is ostensibly about the condition of the big road that runs through my area of the UK. It tells you how busy the road is and what crashes there have been.

Today, the dickhead that runs it is banging on about flags. People are getting a kicking for suggesting that a fb page about the road is not the place for it.

I think we should embrace it and just start plastering our houses in flags. All the flags. Make it Glastonbury every day. Beats covering your house in boring grey.

Its not factually incorrect.. They crossed many safe countries that they could have claimed asylum. They have chosen not to and came here through improper routes .. They're illegal.. That is Fact .

Bless ❤️ you’re still wrong but it’s entertaining

Illegal is an adjective, not a noun. They are not here illegally until their asymlum claim has been considered and rejected.

But I know its a fact!! Its utterly deluded to think otherwise.

Repeating something incessantly doesn't make it a fact. There's no regulation that asylum seekers can't choose the country they seek asylum in. According to the Refugee Convention, asylum seekers can enter any country and not be penalised if they're claiming asylum.

Do you want me to provide the articles in the Convention?

Nope sorry i am correct..

It's not.

Break it down for me - what’s the illegal bit

Bless 💗

Why would you assume that? @PrincessOfPreschool wrote That was me. I'm not a leftie. I'm a non white person with non white children who feels threatened.

How do you get dont love living here from that post? Many people love this country and we don't appreciate it's flag being used to intimidate people and mark territory on lampposts. Like dog piss.

Agree with this. It’s really hard to argue with most people on this as they are usually so uninformed and quite often to be honest thick.

It’s legal to claim asylum. Asylum seekers have to be housed and fed as they can’t work while their claims are processed. We need to process claims faster. We need to do better at returning those whose claims are rejected. We need to do more to deter small boats. We need to deport criminal asylum seekers and refugees. We don’t need to paint red crosses on roundabouts.

pavillion1
"They're illegal.. That is Fact ."

You can repeat that ad nauseam but it doesn't make it fact.

What you do is provide the evidence that you are factually correct, otherwise you look silly. 💘

So explain why it’s wrong? Which bit it illegal

Seeking asylum in the UK is not illegal if entered with authorisation...

Totally agree - we do need to speed up the process so people aren’t stuck in hotels for years and those with no claim can be returned. We also need to stop the boats because people are dying and criminals are exploiting people.

Safe routes or processing in Europe would be better but Brexit makes that hard

Who’s authorisation?

Its not my job to provide evidence though, I dont work for immigration or mi5 or the government Im just going by what I hear on the news.