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Wondering what do next…Starting to think divorce may be only hope? Please be kind 😔

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EnthusiasticButterfly · 19/08/2025 06:57

So …My partner is the main bread winner (yes I know - first mistake 🤦🏻‍♀️), we have been living separate lives for a while with no relationship at the core of the marriage; separate rooms (his decision), left blaming me - saying I was causing tension and friction and he couldn’t sleep next to me. (I was trying to bring up daily challenges/usual stuff, so we could work on together). We had a 8, 6 and a 2 year old at the time. Only saw him in evenings after work and after he’d spent time with kids. He literally was like “don’t bring up stressful stuff to me”.

Anyway…He was always cold in the sense, not cuddling in bed etc.

He’s absent a lot, regularly going on holiday with friends without kids and I (3 - 4 times per year with his hobbies - skiing, sailing, Kitesurfing - long Wkends, 3 -5 days). Says he spends very little on these due to contacts with resources, free places to stay etc…

I don’t have access to resources like this, so other than a family ski holiday with kids once a year to an apartment his parents own - I have only been on a holiday as a family
2 times in 10 years. (I don’t actually ski, I can only snowboard so it’s hard to all ski together and I find it scary so am not keen to go anymore, I’m 45 now, don’t bounce like I did in my 20’s).

Lately he’s been saying the family holidays we do that are not skiing, are too expensive (less than 5K) and we can’t do anymore or they’ll have to be cheaper…camping etc. Camping with him is so difficult, he’s quite messy - and doesn’t clean up after himself. He won’t allow us to use proper beds, has to be blow up mattresses on the floor etc. Has to be the one to choose the location/campsite.

He’s incredibly achievement focused with the kids, we have 3 ages 15, 13 and 9. The 15 year old is in private school, the fees have unfortunately gone up and up since we started, (he’s been resentful of that - blaming the school), our eldest loves her school and yet he’s never go a good word to say about it or her achievement within it. She’s really come out of her shell. She was very shy and academically struggling when she started - she’s absolutely excelling now.

He has said if she gets grammar school results we need to come out of the private school - and go to a grammar for her A-levels. Even though she’s striving there.

Our son is already in a grammar, he’s the most favoured, always getting the attention, accolades, and praise. The girls actually tell me they know - he’s Dads favourite as he’s most like him. Mu husband was the “Golden boy” of his family.

Our youngest daughter is really struggling, is probably ADHD and dyslexic, would benefit greatly from the input of a smaller class room, class sizes etc of a private school, not even the same one. Somewhere cheaper if possible.

However he’s saying he wants to retire (he’s 53), not prepared to fund remaining private school and subsequent university.

I’ve been a stay and home mum for
15 years as we live remotely, the kids are in 3 different schools, spread out in ages with different emotional needs. I pick up all day to day logistics, school responsibilities all household requirements and chores Monday to Friday. No family around to support/help.

I made the decision to be a SAHM due to the amount of travel and just general time commitment of his role (subsequent roles - there have been several very stressful redundancies), he leaves at 7 and isn’t home until 8:30pm most evenings and has always had an attitude of that being non negotiable. Sometimes there is additional socialising after work also.

Part of the reason I ended up being a SAHM was because our kids had quite high needs, my eldest has possible dyspraxia, they knew me by name at A&E as she was always falling over and hurting something, including plastic surgery after a very bad fall down some stairs at 3 years old. My 2nd born only 2 years after my first was in & out of hospital in the first year with low weight gain, feeding problems, and then issues with low immune tolerance. Our surprise baby 3rd, had suspected meningitis at 3 months old and was in & out of hospital for that 1st year. So that brings us to 2018. By which time I was enduring symptoms of chronic fatigue.

…I was thinking about how to get back to work and did my 1st proper job at start of 2020 when youngest was due to start school. However by the March we were all in “lock down” and I was home schooling.

I won’t go into that, other than to say - I have folders of work that I did with the kids, who were then - 9, 7 and 4. They played, did lots of art and baking. They have fond memories of it.

..(He worked pretty much non stop, 12 - 16 hour days. Spent any time outside of that, with the kids). It wasn’t an easy time and I realised then we were probably not in a good place, he had not one word of gratitude or empathy re the once-in-a-lifetime event that was homeschooling 3 children. Yes I did have gratitude and empathy for him having to WFH during Covid.

Anyway I now do some work freelance around the kids but it’s low paid and difficult as I’ve also be in charge of organising contractors to slowly renovate 15th century cottage we bought 10 years ago (his choice, I literally told him not to buy it). It’s needed a lot of work and I’ve been organising that over the 10 years whilst raising a young family.

At weekends he will help, with the dishwasher, does some cooking and splits some of the driving logistics with me. He is mostly in the garden however - doing hedges. He will do no maintenance whatsoever on the cottage, hates DIY, I have to do everything or organise a contractor to do it. I’ve not hidden my annoyance well here as I do not understand why someone with no interest in DIY bought such a high maintenance house to then complain about every cost.

However I am often on the receiving end off a barrage of texts about how selfish, controlling, toxic I am for x, y, z. Usually about how he feels ‘left out of plans’, ‘not consulted’ - over weekend plans, e.g. if one of my parents are visiting (actually very rare) and they offer to take kids & I out for a meal & I don’t ask him 1st (usually cause he’s not here and it won’t impact him).

Anyway I’ve caught him lieing several times; small things but it’s lead to an un easy feeling - about saying friends have ‘invited him out for drinks’, when it’s actually been him organising - the wives of friends have flagged it up to me.
Recently he said he hadn’t seen a friend since Jan/Feb when he’d actually seen them 2 weeks ago for drinks in a different city. His entire social life revolves around drinking, on the holidays with friends it’s all about drinking. Evenings out with friends, it’s all about drinking…That is frequent and fairly consistent.

Over the last 5 years he’s become more and more resentful that I don’t earn a bigger income, blaming me saying I’m the reason the kids aren’t going to private school, saying if I want our youngest go to private school I’ll have to fund it. He says it’s been my choice not to ‘work’. However I don’t see how round running a household alone (every chore), the 3 kids in the 3 different schools, all their after school clubs etc, I could have made it work. I’m up at 6 when he is to start household chores, washing, dishwasher etc, I’m on the go all day, only sitting down to schedule appointments for kids/diary management/admin etc, then school pick ups start and all after school clubs, I’m on the road until 7/8:30pm every night with kids after school clubs (and I teach yoga & Pilates classes when I can around that during the day).

I usually have about 3 hours a day spare after running house and kids lives and I “work” then, class planning, social media, etc (I’m a yoga teacher). A relative paid for my training to become a fitness teacher a few years ago, as I didn’t feel I could ask him at all

This has become a nightmare I feel I can’t get out of. Believe it or not i actually had a good career before kids and I had some hope of going back, we were living in a commuter town 10 years ago and I had an nanny lined up and a network and was ready to go.

Then he moved us out here (remote country house), saying he hated the commuter town, didn’t want any of the houses. We were up against a deadline with a rental agreement at the time. I had a baby that was 1 year old and I just did not realise how isolated I’d be out here and how I’d slip into this world of being a full time mum to 3 kids (we had a surprise baby the year after we moved here), driving everyone everywhere with no help and a husband that has been “busy” and openly resentful/hostile.

I’ve so many times over the years said the location is killing any hope of me having a sustainable career, the kids need lifts everywhere, i do an average of 15 - 20 hours driving a week. The house renovations are a part time job in themselves…he takes no part in them.

He just says we can’t afford to move, because of my low income, which I don’t understand. Anyway feeling very trapped. Not really sure what I’m asking …I’m
Probably starting to think about divorce - an I being unreasonable? I know I’ve been stupid and pretty bonkers becoming this dependent. I feel like I’ve woken up and realised I’ve drifted out to sea. …What is land how do I get there? Am I going mad?? Help.
…What is normal? If reading still reading - thanks. 🙏

FYI…I set up some marriage counselling after he finally agreed to go after years of asking. She’s politely declined to agree to support us. We are now just doing some private sessions together (counsellor & I)…which is a bit unusual. I asked and she agreed.

He says I’m the problem, I don’t want to heal, I’m controlling, hostile, etc… i just feel paralysed by the bizarreness of it all!!

I guess the reality of my situation is dawning and I’m wondering if it’s as bad as it seems…

OP posts:
TheSandgroper · 19/08/2025 07:21

It is as bad as you think if not worse.

I can’t decide whether he just downright abusively awful or whether you would find support over in https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/relationships/5355546-married-to-someone-with-aspergersasdnd-support-thread-16.

There is so much you don’t know so start finding out.
Set up a new email account that he doesn’t know about.
Go through whatever paperwork there is in the house to find out his income and savings.
Find out what you might be entitled to in the way of government support if you left him.
Get a couple of estate agents in to value the house as is and advise how easy it might be to sell. Use your new email address.

To a certain extent, your husband being out of the house for so long each day is useful as you have privacy to search filing cabinets, call estate agents and do online stuff and put strategies into action.
As you live remotely, can you organise someone to help you do some online outside yoga classes? Find a range of bucolic views. Can you do a six week course and upload them as a series so you can take advantage of any good weather to make everything look peaceful and calming? And any other fitness methods you can think of? Look up how to monetise YouTube.

Others will be along, I am sure, with other advice.

But, yes, sadly it is as bad as you have come to realise.

PS: whatever you decide to will cause tantrums. Big tantrums. Be prepared for them and prepare a response whether it’s to bite back or to just be inexorable in pursuit of your new goals. Mumsnet will help with support.

GabriellaMontez · 19/08/2025 07:26

What did the marriage counsellor say?

Have you worked out a possible plan? For eg how much is the house worth? Where could you buy? Woukd it be near the children's schools.

He sounds difficult. You're miserable together. The children know he has a favourite.

You only get 1 life. How much more are you going to waste with him?

PotatoBreadForTheWin · 19/08/2025 07:28

I am sure lots of others who have been in a similar position will be along with helpful advice but I just wanted to say that it is as bad as you think, don’t let him gaslight you about this. It’s not your fault, and I agree that you really should divorce this bastard, regardless of the financial consequences. Whatever they are the freedom will be worth it.

Maray1967 · 19/08/2025 07:29

Divorce him, move to a more sensible location so you can work, and review the private school 6th form - might not be possible. Make sure you’ve bought in advance what you’ll need for the DC eg school uniform, winter coats etc, and slowly purchase towels, bedding and keep where he doesn’t know about them. Accept you’ll have a lower standard of living - but you and your DC will be free of this abusive, manipulative man, because that is what he is. He has trapped you in a house that is draining your energy and a location that is difficult. He makes major life decisions with no respect for your well being. I would not live like this, with a man like this.

Mumofoneandone · 19/08/2025 07:29

This sounds an awful situation - possibly bordering on abusive/controlling.
Good advice from the previous poster.
Make an appointment with a solicitor to talk about divorce options. I think you are left with little choice.
Possibly also contact woman's aid or similar for advice.
I wish you luck......

TreesWelliesKnees · 19/08/2025 07:31

Yes, this is as bad as you think, or worse. Did the counsellor decline to see you together because she noticed signs of abuse? It's good that you are seeing her alone. You can work this out, OP.

adlitem · 19/08/2025 07:31

Well he sounds like a dick mostly.

The only thing I'd say is that I find it a bit unclear is your focus on that he won't fund private school x 3, £5k annual holidays etc, new house, when he is the sole earner and says you can't afford it and you aren't financially contributing. Either you sound to have little understanding of your finances, or he is earning loads and is financially abuse - it's hard to tell by your post. But if the former, in his shoes I would find that frustrating too. If you do split up chances are you will need to manage your expectations in this regard unless he is is a VERY high earner.

That said, and back to point 1, he does sound really unpleasant and emotionally (possible financially) abusive and it sounds like you you to find a path out.

Endofyear · 19/08/2025 07:47

It doesn't sound like a marriage I would want to be in OP. I think you first need to get legal advice and think about what you want your life to look like after divorce. For example - living less rurally, children able to travel to/from school on public transport, yourself able to work more easily. Having some goals in mind will help you focus when things get tough or unpleasant. Take the leap and take back control of your life, you deserve better!

Theextraordinaryisintheordinary · 19/08/2025 07:56

I’m so sorry to hear all of this. It sounds like you’ve been put out to graze far from a life you desire.

There is so much mention of money woven through this. If only he could see that the riches he is chasing are right in front of him in the shape of you, your children and the precious time you have left together. You really do have it all. If only he could stop chasing the bubbles & be grateful. His cup is overflowing and he is blind to it.

Write him a letter explaining that time as a family is running out and you want to get back to being happy together again. Sometimes reading the words rather than hearing you say them will help. He needs a wake up call.

Sending strength. You’re at a tricky age too where life feels very hard.x

ThatAquaBee · 19/08/2025 08:20

Mumofoneandone · 19/08/2025 07:29

This sounds an awful situation - possibly bordering on abusive/controlling.
Good advice from the previous poster.
Make an appointment with a solicitor to talk about divorce options. I think you are left with little choice.
Possibly also contact woman's aid or similar for advice.
I wish you luck......

Definitely controlling and coercive behaviour.
For your Dc sake (DS especially!!) You need a plan of action to leave this awful relationship.

You all deserve so much more! Could there be a chance he is having an affair? Apologies if this sounds rude its not intended that way. Just with him being so distant and always away!

Start a journal and not down dates and times of everything being said and done, you will definitely need it for future reference! If he's this controlling and coercive he will DEFINITELY try to control and manipulate divorce proceedings.

If you fear the consequences of leaving there is always Woman's aid or similar charities that can offer support and guidance on leaving this mentally abusive relationship.

Best of luck to you. You & the family should be his main priority not an after thought!
Get out and be free of this controlling relationship.

slippingdowntheabyss · 19/08/2025 08:27

Don't write any letter to this man. He is having a happy life without you op.

TheTwitcher11 · 19/08/2025 08:31

EnthusiasticButterfly · 19/08/2025 06:57

So …My partner is the main bread winner (yes I know - first mistake 🤦🏻‍♀️), we have been living separate lives for a while with no relationship at the core of the marriage; separate rooms (his decision), left blaming me - saying I was causing tension and friction and he couldn’t sleep next to me. (I was trying to bring up daily challenges/usual stuff, so we could work on together). We had a 8, 6 and a 2 year old at the time. Only saw him in evenings after work and after he’d spent time with kids. He literally was like “don’t bring up stressful stuff to me”.

Anyway…He was always cold in the sense, not cuddling in bed etc.

He’s absent a lot, regularly going on holiday with friends without kids and I (3 - 4 times per year with his hobbies - skiing, sailing, Kitesurfing - long Wkends, 3 -5 days). Says he spends very little on these due to contacts with resources, free places to stay etc…

I don’t have access to resources like this, so other than a family ski holiday with kids once a year to an apartment his parents own - I have only been on a holiday as a family
2 times in 10 years. (I don’t actually ski, I can only snowboard so it’s hard to all ski together and I find it scary so am not keen to go anymore, I’m 45 now, don’t bounce like I did in my 20’s).

Lately he’s been saying the family holidays we do that are not skiing, are too expensive (less than 5K) and we can’t do anymore or they’ll have to be cheaper…camping etc. Camping with him is so difficult, he’s quite messy - and doesn’t clean up after himself. He won’t allow us to use proper beds, has to be blow up mattresses on the floor etc. Has to be the one to choose the location/campsite.

He’s incredibly achievement focused with the kids, we have 3 ages 15, 13 and 9. The 15 year old is in private school, the fees have unfortunately gone up and up since we started, (he’s been resentful of that - blaming the school), our eldest loves her school and yet he’s never go a good word to say about it or her achievement within it. She’s really come out of her shell. She was very shy and academically struggling when she started - she’s absolutely excelling now.

He has said if she gets grammar school results we need to come out of the private school - and go to a grammar for her A-levels. Even though she’s striving there.

Our son is already in a grammar, he’s the most favoured, always getting the attention, accolades, and praise. The girls actually tell me they know - he’s Dads favourite as he’s most like him. Mu husband was the “Golden boy” of his family.

Our youngest daughter is really struggling, is probably ADHD and dyslexic, would benefit greatly from the input of a smaller class room, class sizes etc of a private school, not even the same one. Somewhere cheaper if possible.

However he’s saying he wants to retire (he’s 53), not prepared to fund remaining private school and subsequent university.

I’ve been a stay and home mum for
15 years as we live remotely, the kids are in 3 different schools, spread out in ages with different emotional needs. I pick up all day to day logistics, school responsibilities all household requirements and chores Monday to Friday. No family around to support/help.

I made the decision to be a SAHM due to the amount of travel and just general time commitment of his role (subsequent roles - there have been several very stressful redundancies), he leaves at 7 and isn’t home until 8:30pm most evenings and has always had an attitude of that being non negotiable. Sometimes there is additional socialising after work also.

Part of the reason I ended up being a SAHM was because our kids had quite high needs, my eldest has possible dyspraxia, they knew me by name at A&E as she was always falling over and hurting something, including plastic surgery after a very bad fall down some stairs at 3 years old. My 2nd born only 2 years after my first was in & out of hospital in the first year with low weight gain, feeding problems, and then issues with low immune tolerance. Our surprise baby 3rd, had suspected meningitis at 3 months old and was in & out of hospital for that 1st year. So that brings us to 2018. By which time I was enduring symptoms of chronic fatigue.

…I was thinking about how to get back to work and did my 1st proper job at start of 2020 when youngest was due to start school. However by the March we were all in “lock down” and I was home schooling.

I won’t go into that, other than to say - I have folders of work that I did with the kids, who were then - 9, 7 and 4. They played, did lots of art and baking. They have fond memories of it.

..(He worked pretty much non stop, 12 - 16 hour days. Spent any time outside of that, with the kids). It wasn’t an easy time and I realised then we were probably not in a good place, he had not one word of gratitude or empathy re the once-in-a-lifetime event that was homeschooling 3 children. Yes I did have gratitude and empathy for him having to WFH during Covid.

Anyway I now do some work freelance around the kids but it’s low paid and difficult as I’ve also be in charge of organising contractors to slowly renovate 15th century cottage we bought 10 years ago (his choice, I literally told him not to buy it). It’s needed a lot of work and I’ve been organising that over the 10 years whilst raising a young family.

At weekends he will help, with the dishwasher, does some cooking and splits some of the driving logistics with me. He is mostly in the garden however - doing hedges. He will do no maintenance whatsoever on the cottage, hates DIY, I have to do everything or organise a contractor to do it. I’ve not hidden my annoyance well here as I do not understand why someone with no interest in DIY bought such a high maintenance house to then complain about every cost.

However I am often on the receiving end off a barrage of texts about how selfish, controlling, toxic I am for x, y, z. Usually about how he feels ‘left out of plans’, ‘not consulted’ - over weekend plans, e.g. if one of my parents are visiting (actually very rare) and they offer to take kids & I out for a meal & I don’t ask him 1st (usually cause he’s not here and it won’t impact him).

Anyway I’ve caught him lieing several times; small things but it’s lead to an un easy feeling - about saying friends have ‘invited him out for drinks’, when it’s actually been him organising - the wives of friends have flagged it up to me.
Recently he said he hadn’t seen a friend since Jan/Feb when he’d actually seen them 2 weeks ago for drinks in a different city. His entire social life revolves around drinking, on the holidays with friends it’s all about drinking. Evenings out with friends, it’s all about drinking…That is frequent and fairly consistent.

Over the last 5 years he’s become more and more resentful that I don’t earn a bigger income, blaming me saying I’m the reason the kids aren’t going to private school, saying if I want our youngest go to private school I’ll have to fund it. He says it’s been my choice not to ‘work’. However I don’t see how round running a household alone (every chore), the 3 kids in the 3 different schools, all their after school clubs etc, I could have made it work. I’m up at 6 when he is to start household chores, washing, dishwasher etc, I’m on the go all day, only sitting down to schedule appointments for kids/diary management/admin etc, then school pick ups start and all after school clubs, I’m on the road until 7/8:30pm every night with kids after school clubs (and I teach yoga & Pilates classes when I can around that during the day).

I usually have about 3 hours a day spare after running house and kids lives and I “work” then, class planning, social media, etc (I’m a yoga teacher). A relative paid for my training to become a fitness teacher a few years ago, as I didn’t feel I could ask him at all

This has become a nightmare I feel I can’t get out of. Believe it or not i actually had a good career before kids and I had some hope of going back, we were living in a commuter town 10 years ago and I had an nanny lined up and a network and was ready to go.

Then he moved us out here (remote country house), saying he hated the commuter town, didn’t want any of the houses. We were up against a deadline with a rental agreement at the time. I had a baby that was 1 year old and I just did not realise how isolated I’d be out here and how I’d slip into this world of being a full time mum to 3 kids (we had a surprise baby the year after we moved here), driving everyone everywhere with no help and a husband that has been “busy” and openly resentful/hostile.

I’ve so many times over the years said the location is killing any hope of me having a sustainable career, the kids need lifts everywhere, i do an average of 15 - 20 hours driving a week. The house renovations are a part time job in themselves…he takes no part in them.

He just says we can’t afford to move, because of my low income, which I don’t understand. Anyway feeling very trapped. Not really sure what I’m asking …I’m
Probably starting to think about divorce - an I being unreasonable? I know I’ve been stupid and pretty bonkers becoming this dependent. I feel like I’ve woken up and realised I’ve drifted out to sea. …What is land how do I get there? Am I going mad?? Help.
…What is normal? If reading still reading - thanks. 🙏

FYI…I set up some marriage counselling after he finally agreed to go after years of asking. She’s politely declined to agree to support us. We are now just doing some private sessions together (counsellor & I)…which is a bit unusual. I asked and she agreed.

He says I’m the problem, I don’t want to heal, I’m controlling, hostile, etc… i just feel paralysed by the bizarreness of it all!!

I guess the reality of my situation is dawning and I’m wondering if it’s as bad as it seems…

I truly believe you will be better off without this man - what a selfish pr*ck

slippingdowntheabyss · 19/08/2025 08:32

TheSandgroper · 19/08/2025 07:21

It is as bad as you think if not worse.

I can’t decide whether he just downright abusively awful or whether you would find support over in https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/relationships/5355546-married-to-someone-with-aspergersasdnd-support-thread-16.

There is so much you don’t know so start finding out.
Set up a new email account that he doesn’t know about.
Go through whatever paperwork there is in the house to find out his income and savings.
Find out what you might be entitled to in the way of government support if you left him.
Get a couple of estate agents in to value the house as is and advise how easy it might be to sell. Use your new email address.

To a certain extent, your husband being out of the house for so long each day is useful as you have privacy to search filing cabinets, call estate agents and do online stuff and put strategies into action.
As you live remotely, can you organise someone to help you do some online outside yoga classes? Find a range of bucolic views. Can you do a six week course and upload them as a series so you can take advantage of any good weather to make everything look peaceful and calming? And any other fitness methods you can think of? Look up how to monetise YouTube.

Others will be along, I am sure, with other advice.

But, yes, sadly it is as bad as you have come to realise.

PS: whatever you decide to will cause tantrums. Big tantrums. Be prepared for them and prepare a response whether it’s to bite back or to just be inexorable in pursuit of your new goals. Mumsnet will help with support.

Edited

Do this not speak to a man who has left you in the middle of nowhere.
He doe's not love you anymore.
You are more worthy of this man that he has been willing to give to you.

PurveyorP · 19/08/2025 08:49

I honestly don’t think you should try and solve anything. I think you need to end the marriage. I cannot see one positive to staying together. The kids will have to adapt to a different life, possibly schooling. But at least they won’t have this horrendous atmosphere at home and witness this power imbalance in their parents’ relationship.

ProudCat · 19/08/2025 08:55

Trying to be kind:

Your husband's currently 53 and wants to retire (probably at 55). There's an eight year age gap and you're currently 45. Your kids are 15, 13 and 9. You live in a big cottage in the countryside and all the work is done by contractors. He goes out a lot. You're stuck at home. There's no affection.

Let's say you get divorced. Probably a two year process to get everything done and dusted. Your oldest will be looking at uni, your middle one will have finished up GCSEs and your youngest will be at secondary. That's a great time for you to 'spread your wings'. It also means you won't have to live with your retired husband - and anyway he'll likely now have to carry on working.

You'll probably get a good divorce settlement to help you start your new life.

regista · 19/08/2025 10:13

Another vote for divorce. Strongly suspect that your counsellor separated you as there was little hope. It sounds like financial and emotional abuse. Start making your plans OP. Appreciate that it will be seismic for the kids - but sounds quite bad right now for them with the favouritism the threats to pull them out of a school that they thrive in. Steel yourself, it’s going to get very messy. Get your ducks in a row as they say, see if you can squirrel away a few quid, get a sense of his earnings, what the house is worth, work out what benefits you would be entitled to as a single mum, explore rentals. And get your emotional skills up - he is going to get very very cross and fight dirty.

Ohwhatfuckeryitistoride · 19/08/2025 10:16

Also, especially with his "socialising" never discount another woman.

EnthusiasticButterfly · 19/08/2025 10:44

Ohwhatfuckeryitistoride · 19/08/2025 10:16

Also, especially with his "socialising" never discount another woman.

The terrible part is i actually think if he left me for someone else it would be a relief. 😔 Terrible and sad but also I would finally understand. I’ve looked but I can’t find any concrete evidence and when he’s out socialising with “work”/“friends”, I’m always a 100 miles away on tea, bath, clubs, homework etc. Not free to go and spy even. …Think I’ve just run out of the energy to fight it anymore.

OP posts:
EnthusiasticButterfly · 19/08/2025 10:44

Ohwhatfuckeryitistoride · 19/08/2025 10:16

Also, especially with his "socialising" never discount another woman.

The terrible part is i actually think if he left me for someone else it would be a relief. 😔 Terrible and sad but also I would finally understand. I’ve looked but I can’t find any concrete evidence and when he’s out socialising with “work”/“friends”, I’m always a 100 miles away on tea, bath, clubs, homework etc. Not free to go and spy even. …Think I’ve just run out of the energy to fight it anymore.

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EnthusiasticButterfly · 19/08/2025 10:53

Thanks - yes I think your right, the counsellors sort of intimidated …that she didn’t feel she had 2 people that could see there own part in the issues or who had a clear united vision of what a improvement looked like. Just blame and animosity.

Yeah, I suspect it would not be approached amicably, he’s going to want to see my suffer. He’s basically said as much. “Life will be very hard for you if we separate”, “you’ll ruin the kids lives if we divorce” etc. He’s threatened to pull our eldest out of private education so many times I’ve lost count and she’s so happy and has done so well. It’s just so baffling.

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EnthusiasticButterfly · 19/08/2025 10:55

regista · 19/08/2025 10:13

Another vote for divorce. Strongly suspect that your counsellor separated you as there was little hope. It sounds like financial and emotional abuse. Start making your plans OP. Appreciate that it will be seismic for the kids - but sounds quite bad right now for them with the favouritism the threats to pull them out of a school that they thrive in. Steel yourself, it’s going to get very messy. Get your ducks in a row as they say, see if you can squirrel away a few quid, get a sense of his earnings, what the house is worth, work out what benefits you would be entitled to as a single mum, explore rentals. And get your emotional skills up - he is going to get very very cross and fight dirty.

Thanks - yes I think your right, the counsellors sort of intimidated …that she didn’t feel she had 2 people that could see there own part in the issues or who had a clear united vision of what a improvement looked like. Just blame and animosity.

Yeah, I suspect it would not be approached amicably, he’s going to want to see my suffer. He’s basically said as much. “Life will be very hard for you if we separate”, “you’ll ruin the kids lives if we divorce” etc. He’s threatened to pull our eldest out of private education so many times I’ve lost count and she’s so happy and has done so well. It’s just so baffling.

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fluffiphlox · 19/08/2025 11:00

It’s a very long post and I didn’t get much further than the fact he takes holidays on his own. For that alone, I think you should divorce. He’s got you as a nanny and housekeeper, keeping things ticking over while he does exactly what he wants.

EnthusiasticButterfly · 19/08/2025 11:04

GabriellaMontez · 19/08/2025 07:26

What did the marriage counsellor say?

Have you worked out a possible plan? For eg how much is the house worth? Where could you buy? Woukd it be near the children's schools.

He sounds difficult. You're miserable together. The children know he has a favourite.

You only get 1 life. How much more are you going to waste with him?

She sort of intimidated that she didn’t feel her services would be use, as she could only see a lot blame & resentment. My husband was fairly short with her in the 1st meeting, he sort of told her he expected her to ‘heal’ the marriage. She said she needs 2 people who are prepared to “do the work”. Thankfully she agreed to see my independently if he agreed due to conflict of professional interest. …As i was feeling pretty hopeless after that.

Starting to take some action, feels like wading through treacle. I couldn’t buy anything unless the court ordered it. I’ve got about £500 to my name. I’m on the joint bank account but everything else is in his name.

yeah - I’m starting to realise that. I hoped for change for nearly 10 years in 2028 (as I first saw it might be abuse in 2018). I mean I don’t know it’s abuse but … 👀

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EnthusiasticButterfly · 19/08/2025 11:05

fluffiphlox · 19/08/2025 11:00

It’s a very long post and I didn’t get much further than the fact he takes holidays on his own. For that alone, I think you should divorce. He’s got you as a nanny and housekeeper, keeping things ticking over while he does exactly what he wants.

Fair enough, it is war and peace! I feel better for getting it out. I didn’t even mention that he also does holidays with the kids without me also.

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EnthusiasticButterfly · 19/08/2025 11:07

regista · 19/08/2025 10:13

Another vote for divorce. Strongly suspect that your counsellor separated you as there was little hope. It sounds like financial and emotional abuse. Start making your plans OP. Appreciate that it will be seismic for the kids - but sounds quite bad right now for them with the favouritism the threats to pull them out of a school that they thrive in. Steel yourself, it’s going to get very messy. Get your ducks in a row as they say, see if you can squirrel away a few quid, get a sense of his earnings, what the house is worth, work out what benefits you would be entitled to as a single mum, explore rentals. And get your emotional skills up - he is going to get very very cross and fight dirty.

Yes i think you’re right. Cannot believe ive ended up in this scenario. Really gutted. Thanks for input…

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