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Wondering what do next…Starting to think divorce may be only hope? Please be kind 😔

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EnthusiasticButterfly · 19/08/2025 06:57

So …My partner is the main bread winner (yes I know - first mistake 🤦🏻‍♀️), we have been living separate lives for a while with no relationship at the core of the marriage; separate rooms (his decision), left blaming me - saying I was causing tension and friction and he couldn’t sleep next to me. (I was trying to bring up daily challenges/usual stuff, so we could work on together). We had a 8, 6 and a 2 year old at the time. Only saw him in evenings after work and after he’d spent time with kids. He literally was like “don’t bring up stressful stuff to me”.

Anyway…He was always cold in the sense, not cuddling in bed etc.

He’s absent a lot, regularly going on holiday with friends without kids and I (3 - 4 times per year with his hobbies - skiing, sailing, Kitesurfing - long Wkends, 3 -5 days). Says he spends very little on these due to contacts with resources, free places to stay etc…

I don’t have access to resources like this, so other than a family ski holiday with kids once a year to an apartment his parents own - I have only been on a holiday as a family
2 times in 10 years. (I don’t actually ski, I can only snowboard so it’s hard to all ski together and I find it scary so am not keen to go anymore, I’m 45 now, don’t bounce like I did in my 20’s).

Lately he’s been saying the family holidays we do that are not skiing, are too expensive (less than 5K) and we can’t do anymore or they’ll have to be cheaper…camping etc. Camping with him is so difficult, he’s quite messy - and doesn’t clean up after himself. He won’t allow us to use proper beds, has to be blow up mattresses on the floor etc. Has to be the one to choose the location/campsite.

He’s incredibly achievement focused with the kids, we have 3 ages 15, 13 and 9. The 15 year old is in private school, the fees have unfortunately gone up and up since we started, (he’s been resentful of that - blaming the school), our eldest loves her school and yet he’s never go a good word to say about it or her achievement within it. She’s really come out of her shell. She was very shy and academically struggling when she started - she’s absolutely excelling now.

He has said if she gets grammar school results we need to come out of the private school - and go to a grammar for her A-levels. Even though she’s striving there.

Our son is already in a grammar, he’s the most favoured, always getting the attention, accolades, and praise. The girls actually tell me they know - he’s Dads favourite as he’s most like him. Mu husband was the “Golden boy” of his family.

Our youngest daughter is really struggling, is probably ADHD and dyslexic, would benefit greatly from the input of a smaller class room, class sizes etc of a private school, not even the same one. Somewhere cheaper if possible.

However he’s saying he wants to retire (he’s 53), not prepared to fund remaining private school and subsequent university.

I’ve been a stay and home mum for
15 years as we live remotely, the kids are in 3 different schools, spread out in ages with different emotional needs. I pick up all day to day logistics, school responsibilities all household requirements and chores Monday to Friday. No family around to support/help.

I made the decision to be a SAHM due to the amount of travel and just general time commitment of his role (subsequent roles - there have been several very stressful redundancies), he leaves at 7 and isn’t home until 8:30pm most evenings and has always had an attitude of that being non negotiable. Sometimes there is additional socialising after work also.

Part of the reason I ended up being a SAHM was because our kids had quite high needs, my eldest has possible dyspraxia, they knew me by name at A&E as she was always falling over and hurting something, including plastic surgery after a very bad fall down some stairs at 3 years old. My 2nd born only 2 years after my first was in & out of hospital in the first year with low weight gain, feeding problems, and then issues with low immune tolerance. Our surprise baby 3rd, had suspected meningitis at 3 months old and was in & out of hospital for that 1st year. So that brings us to 2018. By which time I was enduring symptoms of chronic fatigue.

…I was thinking about how to get back to work and did my 1st proper job at start of 2020 when youngest was due to start school. However by the March we were all in “lock down” and I was home schooling.

I won’t go into that, other than to say - I have folders of work that I did with the kids, who were then - 9, 7 and 4. They played, did lots of art and baking. They have fond memories of it.

..(He worked pretty much non stop, 12 - 16 hour days. Spent any time outside of that, with the kids). It wasn’t an easy time and I realised then we were probably not in a good place, he had not one word of gratitude or empathy re the once-in-a-lifetime event that was homeschooling 3 children. Yes I did have gratitude and empathy for him having to WFH during Covid.

Anyway I now do some work freelance around the kids but it’s low paid and difficult as I’ve also be in charge of organising contractors to slowly renovate 15th century cottage we bought 10 years ago (his choice, I literally told him not to buy it). It’s needed a lot of work and I’ve been organising that over the 10 years whilst raising a young family.

At weekends he will help, with the dishwasher, does some cooking and splits some of the driving logistics with me. He is mostly in the garden however - doing hedges. He will do no maintenance whatsoever on the cottage, hates DIY, I have to do everything or organise a contractor to do it. I’ve not hidden my annoyance well here as I do not understand why someone with no interest in DIY bought such a high maintenance house to then complain about every cost.

However I am often on the receiving end off a barrage of texts about how selfish, controlling, toxic I am for x, y, z. Usually about how he feels ‘left out of plans’, ‘not consulted’ - over weekend plans, e.g. if one of my parents are visiting (actually very rare) and they offer to take kids & I out for a meal & I don’t ask him 1st (usually cause he’s not here and it won’t impact him).

Anyway I’ve caught him lieing several times; small things but it’s lead to an un easy feeling - about saying friends have ‘invited him out for drinks’, when it’s actually been him organising - the wives of friends have flagged it up to me.
Recently he said he hadn’t seen a friend since Jan/Feb when he’d actually seen them 2 weeks ago for drinks in a different city. His entire social life revolves around drinking, on the holidays with friends it’s all about drinking. Evenings out with friends, it’s all about drinking…That is frequent and fairly consistent.

Over the last 5 years he’s become more and more resentful that I don’t earn a bigger income, blaming me saying I’m the reason the kids aren’t going to private school, saying if I want our youngest go to private school I’ll have to fund it. He says it’s been my choice not to ‘work’. However I don’t see how round running a household alone (every chore), the 3 kids in the 3 different schools, all their after school clubs etc, I could have made it work. I’m up at 6 when he is to start household chores, washing, dishwasher etc, I’m on the go all day, only sitting down to schedule appointments for kids/diary management/admin etc, then school pick ups start and all after school clubs, I’m on the road until 7/8:30pm every night with kids after school clubs (and I teach yoga & Pilates classes when I can around that during the day).

I usually have about 3 hours a day spare after running house and kids lives and I “work” then, class planning, social media, etc (I’m a yoga teacher). A relative paid for my training to become a fitness teacher a few years ago, as I didn’t feel I could ask him at all

This has become a nightmare I feel I can’t get out of. Believe it or not i actually had a good career before kids and I had some hope of going back, we were living in a commuter town 10 years ago and I had an nanny lined up and a network and was ready to go.

Then he moved us out here (remote country house), saying he hated the commuter town, didn’t want any of the houses. We were up against a deadline with a rental agreement at the time. I had a baby that was 1 year old and I just did not realise how isolated I’d be out here and how I’d slip into this world of being a full time mum to 3 kids (we had a surprise baby the year after we moved here), driving everyone everywhere with no help and a husband that has been “busy” and openly resentful/hostile.

I’ve so many times over the years said the location is killing any hope of me having a sustainable career, the kids need lifts everywhere, i do an average of 15 - 20 hours driving a week. The house renovations are a part time job in themselves…he takes no part in them.

He just says we can’t afford to move, because of my low income, which I don’t understand. Anyway feeling very trapped. Not really sure what I’m asking …I’m
Probably starting to think about divorce - an I being unreasonable? I know I’ve been stupid and pretty bonkers becoming this dependent. I feel like I’ve woken up and realised I’ve drifted out to sea. …What is land how do I get there? Am I going mad?? Help.
…What is normal? If reading still reading - thanks. 🙏

FYI…I set up some marriage counselling after he finally agreed to go after years of asking. She’s politely declined to agree to support us. We are now just doing some private sessions together (counsellor & I)…which is a bit unusual. I asked and she agreed.

He says I’m the problem, I don’t want to heal, I’m controlling, hostile, etc… i just feel paralysed by the bizarreness of it all!!

I guess the reality of my situation is dawning and I’m wondering if it’s as bad as it seems…

OP posts:
DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 19/08/2025 15:14

GabriellaMontez · 19/08/2025 14:02

What you've posted about his holidays without you is absolutely awful.

Disrespectful, controlling, mean.

For that alone... leave him.

I thought he was a wrong un when I read

"However the low level underlying rage & resentment is unreal."

for that alone, RUN. You shouldn't have to live like that, starved of affection and even basic consideration. He has dismissed all your choices throughout your whole marriage and burried you in the country where he has control. l

But the holidays with the children ( or is it just the favoured son) without you.. and the constant get a job.. You do have a job, an unpaid one, being his housekeeper, valet, chauffeur, childminder etc etc..and Oh yes.. housing project manager on top of your real job. You dismiss it as only part time... probably because he does but it still keeps you in the world of work and means you can get references... so you did well to do that.

He sounds so hostile and unpleasant.. and I think the counsellor spotted that immediately. I'm glad you have someone you can talk to about this.

When the children get to 18, he is probably planning on making you redundant... so make your move now, quietly without giving the game away as it sounds like he will be unpleasant.

jeaux90 · 19/08/2025 15:22

Is he in IT?

GabriellaMontez · 19/08/2025 15:26

Is he self-employed now or some kind of contractor? If so he will avoid child maintenance so bear that in mind.

EnthusiasticButterfly · 19/08/2025 15:32

CreationNat1on · 19/08/2025 15:10

Any industry where there has been streamlining and mergers will have many redundancies. The banking and insurance sectors are examples. The redundancies might simply be the industry.

He sounds like a entitled know it all, but posters can fly off the handle on here too.

Yeah, I’m trying to keep perspective on this, but I know at least one involved a disagreement with a boss, he just couldn’t recover from. Tbf I don’t know for sure.

He is kind of the opposite of a ‘people pleaser’, negotiates hard…is a ‘contracts’/ detail oriented person.

He’s ‘joked’ before that divorcing him would be a nightmare, I think he’d try and run the entire process.

OP posts:
crankycurmudgeon · 19/08/2025 15:48

GabriellaMontez · 19/08/2025 14:02

What you've posted about his holidays without you is absolutely awful.

Disrespectful, controlling, mean.

For that alone... leave him.

Yeah that's the thing that stuck with me the most. I'm amazed at how many posts there are on Mumsnet with husbands swanning off to have solo holidays / stag-dos. That would be a complete non starter in our household. I just can't see how any self-respecting parent could bugger off and leave their wife and kids for a week while they go and play their expensive man-child games. What is it with men of 38 going on 8...

CatRescueNeeded · 19/08/2025 15:54

Your husband is treating obviously treating you very badly and has no intention of improving things, so divorce is really the only solution

However, you are also being very unreasonable. Having 3 kids in 3 different schools with only 1 of them in primary is not hours of admin (I’m in the same position and work full time).

Your husband is 53 and working in a very stressful job - it’s not unreasonable of him to want to retire soon. You certainly can’t argue with that, having been a supported by him for so long. And it’s definitely not unreasonable for him to not want to commit to further private school fees past your eldest doing GCSEs (and not starting with your youngest). It would be much worse for them to start at private school then for your husband to be made redundant again or burn out, thus having to pull them out at the most inconvenient times. The older your husband gets, the more difficult it will be for him to find a new role

beAsensible1 · 19/08/2025 16:00

EnthusiasticButterfly · 19/08/2025 11:17

Yep this is basically where we’ve landed or how I’ve tried to approach it.

I have loads of empathy for stress levels and disappointment he feels re his “failure of a career as he sees it” (several redundancies in, not CEO - apparently this was his expectation). I’ve tried empathy, I’ve tried sit down chats, put all the cards on table, said let’s sell the house, live in a caravan for a year - try and descale everything.

He just looks at me with distain and is like “get a job!” I’m trying to explain that every job I do round our complicated childcare/schools/clubs etc arrangements leaves me with the same crap income. 20K’ish. Whether it’s an office or my current fitness teaching stuff.

Thanks so much, appreciate the perspective.

You are in charge of the children’s scheduling can you not simplify it for yourself ?

i do think you should diveorce eventually but I would start squirrelling some money away and upskilling as he could be really nasty and you could end up in a bad way financially / housing wise.

you need to know how much money he has, where it’s kept all the assets etc. before you make any big moves.

Spend some time get your self confidence back and getting out there making connections in your area regarding work and a general support system.

find the yoga group for the area. Sign up for cover lists, facebook is good for this. Offer some free/low cost sessions to the local church. Offer some classes to any local charities/ kids groups etc. do a digital skills course so you can build a social media page for your teaching.

Mancity08 · 19/08/2025 16:02

From what you’ve put down on here and your family lifestyle he must be in the higher tax band
Do you actually know how much is salary is ? Is he open about things like that?

Gave I read it right, you have 2 houses ?
one you live in and one your renovating

He sounds an absolute nightmare to live with and no Amount of what you do would be enough for him ! He like to be the dominant one
He just thinks going to work - that’s his part done
He can’t gave that much time with the kids coming home at 8pm every night

Do you live in the South ?
Do you have an idea if what your house may be worth ?
Rightmove - to see how much house for you & kids in an area you choose

Hit him where it hurts the most - money
He has treated you disrespectful 😡😡😡😡 over many many years.
Does he have a company pension ?
You will get half of that
Regarding the house- I’m sure you will get more % as you have to house 3 kids & yourself
He - himself
Then you will get child maintenance for the 3 kids
If you have control for buying, could you squirrel some out to put in an account for you & kids ?

Do Not let any details out of your thinking plans
wether you go ahead Or not

arcticpandas · 19/08/2025 21:12

EnthusiasticButterfly · 19/08/2025 15:32

Yeah, I’m trying to keep perspective on this, but I know at least one involved a disagreement with a boss, he just couldn’t recover from. Tbf I don’t know for sure.

He is kind of the opposite of a ‘people pleaser’, negotiates hard…is a ‘contracts’/ detail oriented person.

He’s ‘joked’ before that divorcing him would be a nightmare, I think he’d try and run the entire process.

This is why you need to be very clever (and sneaky) in order to get copies of all his assets (he will try to hide them in a divorce) and then take it step by step with a solicitor when you have your escape planned out.

Pogoda · 20/08/2025 10:43

People here scream all kind of 'abuse' by the husband, but I don't this is as simple as that.
She must have signed the documents that got their old house sold and the new house bought (rental, or whatever it was). I've seen women actually take the decisions and then blame it on their husbands when it goes wrong for them, thus avoiding or excusing responsibility. I don't think it's fair. His life looks very stressful as a sole earner. You have to see his point of view, too. Maybe it was a pure financial decision - maybe he couldn't afford a better house.

There is a lot of resentment between both of you. It's not necessarily only his fault. I think OP just went along with whatever he wanted for many, many years, because it was easier. Then kids came one after another (some were a 'sursprise') and life became very complicated. The husband 'ran away' cause it was easier like this for him, excusing himself as he 'earns for the family'. OP now feels trapped but it's not all his doing, isn't it. She complains he bought a house she didn't want and forcefully moved them all there? I don't believe this.

EnthusiasticButterfly · 20/08/2025 11:34

crankycurmudgeon · 19/08/2025 15:48

Yeah that's the thing that stuck with me the most. I'm amazed at how many posts there are on Mumsnet with husbands swanning off to have solo holidays / stag-dos. That would be a complete non starter in our household. I just can't see how any self-respecting parent could bugger off and leave their wife and kids for a week while they go and play their expensive man-child games. What is it with men of 38 going on 8...

100% agree, so immature when it all centre around getting drunk and playing at being a “lad”.

Spoke to him so many times about this as well…tried to explain how defeating it is, when the person you’re with is (instead of being present), just planning their next trip.

Isn’t the point of being ‘with’ someone - to find shared interests, places you enjoy, hobbies, not just cut them out and swan off consistently. Very debilitating. Kind of throws you off balance.

Ultimately I’ve realised it’s calmer/easier when he’s away unfortunately.

OP posts:
EnthusiasticButterfly · 20/08/2025 11:44

Pogoda · 20/08/2025 10:43

People here scream all kind of 'abuse' by the husband, but I don't this is as simple as that.
She must have signed the documents that got their old house sold and the new house bought (rental, or whatever it was). I've seen women actually take the decisions and then blame it on their husbands when it goes wrong for them, thus avoiding or excusing responsibility. I don't think it's fair. His life looks very stressful as a sole earner. You have to see his point of view, too. Maybe it was a pure financial decision - maybe he couldn't afford a better house.

There is a lot of resentment between both of you. It's not necessarily only his fault. I think OP just went along with whatever he wanted for many, many years, because it was easier. Then kids came one after another (some were a 'sursprise') and life became very complicated. The husband 'ran away' cause it was easier like this for him, excusing himself as he 'earns for the family'. OP now feels trapped but it's not all his doing, isn't it. She complains he bought a house she didn't want and forcefully moved them all there? I don't believe this.

Edited

I stood there with a builder in the garden and the builder said quote unquote “I would only buy this if you have a bottomless pitt of cash”. My husband’s response was “nothing will stop me buying that house”, he wasn’t even interested in the survey. It is possible to go along with the excitement your partner has against all your own fears. Especially when at the point - the ‘rose tinted’ glasses were very much on.

I was also told if it didn’t work we could change it. However once in, that narrative changed.

I’m not saying I don’t hold myself accountable - if I could shake myself and wake myself up at the point, believe me, I would.

True, there was a lot of going along with things while it all looked like a fairy tale. Don’t think I can’t see my own part in that.

OP posts:
EnthusiasticButterfly · 20/08/2025 11:55

Mancity08 · 19/08/2025 16:02

From what you’ve put down on here and your family lifestyle he must be in the higher tax band
Do you actually know how much is salary is ? Is he open about things like that?

Gave I read it right, you have 2 houses ?
one you live in and one your renovating

He sounds an absolute nightmare to live with and no Amount of what you do would be enough for him ! He like to be the dominant one
He just thinks going to work - that’s his part done
He can’t gave that much time with the kids coming home at 8pm every night

Do you live in the South ?
Do you have an idea if what your house may be worth ?
Rightmove - to see how much house for you & kids in an area you choose

Hit him where it hurts the most - money
He has treated you disrespectful 😡😡😡😡 over many many years.
Does he have a company pension ?
You will get half of that
Regarding the house- I’m sure you will get more % as you have to house 3 kids & yourself
He - himself
Then you will get child maintenance for the 3 kids
If you have control for buying, could you squirrel some out to put in an account for you & kids ?

Do Not let any details out of your thinking plans
wether you go ahead Or not

Yeah I live in the South, 1 house. Everything is insanely expensive, running 2 houses would be 😱

I know his salary (he’s higher tax band) & our running costs (his credit card is not see by me and is our main spend each month, which he says are business ‘expenses’. We are over spending). I don’t think we are doing more - it’s just the cost of everything is going up.

My credit card is predominantly Diesel, food/supermarket. I really have quite a boring life …all my hobbies are free, Pilates, biking, walking ✨ (my main weakness is clothes 😍 trying to only shop in sale and only buy what i actually need - very hard!!

My plan is to get much closer to the finances as whatever happens i have to be more clued up.

Thanks for the input. xx

OP posts:
EnthusiasticButterfly · 20/08/2025 12:12

Thanks all for commenting, this has been waking me up at 5am daily. It’s like my nervous system is trying to alert me to something.

I’ve appreciated reading the comments and please don’t think I can’t see my own part. He and I have been together nearly 20 years, I was in my early 20’s when we met. (We both had very little). What we’ve achieved together is actually pretty remarkable.
Over half my life has been here…I don’t know I’ll ever come to terms with the time lost loving someone who can’t show up for me.

Or indeed walking away from someone I once thought my whole world could revolve around.

For those that asked…I have friends, I’m not a ‘group’ person as such but those closest know, I hate to burden them. But not being open and hiding it was leading to poor mental health. I’m not a ‘putting on a show’ person.

As for family - nobody local, sadly! I’d certainly change that if I could. They live “too far” from his job for us to live near them apparently. I didn’t fight hard enough to be near my side initially. Probably should have on reflection. They know, but don’t know how to help if you get what I mean (and don’t have the resources - not from a wealthy background).

…Thanks. Where I go from here, not sure…I guess I have more reflecting to do, advice to seek, info to gather and work to be done.

💫 xx

OP posts:
EnthusiasticButterfly · 20/08/2025 16:57

jeaux90 · 19/08/2025 15:22

Is he in IT?

Nope. 👎🏻

OP posts:
Ohmygodnotnow · 20/08/2025 17:38

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this OP but there is another thread going with an absolutely distraught poster who's vile controlling husband went nuclear when she served him with divorce papers, accused her of coercive control and abuse and got her barred from the family home and changed the locks. If you intend to leave-and that would certainly be my plan of action-PLEASE start documenting every aspect of controlling and emotionally abusive behavior, everywhere you can. The councillor is a great start. Talk to your GP and get it in record there that you're worried about your mental health after being ground down for so long. Outline every vile thing he says and threatens. Talk to the safeguarding lead at your kids schools and say you're worried about what impact his behaviour is having on them, especially the threat to withdraw funds and the fact he's threatening to go nuclear on their mother if she leaves. Be aware that if you talk to the police, they won't wait to escalate it, they will do it then and there. So if that becomes necessary, make sure you are ready.

You've been given loads of wise and sensible advice here. Ignore the posters who have the luxury of not being in an isolated and excruciatingly unhappy marriage. Your situation is not normal or ok. Ducks in a row. All the very, very best OP, one day you will be free of this asshole-pictur the first night in your new home free of him. Maybe mentally furnish it and pick a wall colour. Hold onto that vision when it gets nasty. Stay strong x

CreationNat1on · 20/08/2025 19:49

He sounds legal/in house contracts manager or QS, finance manager type. Thinks he is god. I think the person who said he will make you redundant when either your son turns 18 or maybe the youngest is correct, but by the sounds of things he has no where to relocate to. So it won't be so easy.

ThePoliteLion · 20/08/2025 22:39

OP, I’m sorry you are in this situation and agree with PPs that the marriage appears bad for you and your children. Find a good, family law specialist solicitor - many will provide an initial half hour consultation at no charge. Quietly get your ducks in a row. Don’t move out of your home. Stay there with your kids until a financial settlement is reached. If you can persuade your husband to move elsewhere in the interim, that should make your day to day life easier (I realise he might well refuse). Agree a sensible regime for all the children to spend time with their dad. The elder two will have views of their own about this. Be prepared for him to behave very badly. Also be prepared for this to take up to two years or more. But you can do it. In my job I’ve acted for many in your position and all have come through. You’ll probably feel significantly less well off, but relieved. All the best with it.

babyproblems · 20/08/2025 22:44

He’s got an alcohol problem.
His treatment of you is horrendous - abusive financially I would say. Cannot believe you ‘do not have access to resources’ when he is off on holidays??? You are equals!! It shouldn’t matter who earns what. You need to start gathering information and proof of his behavior and treatment of you. Get paperwork assets pensions etc and go and see a solicitor discreetly. See where you stand. Hes not your partner @EnthusiasticButterfly and you deserve a team mate not a parasite who treats you with no respect. Best of luck xxx

Barney16 · 20/08/2025 22:59

Well he checked out ages ago but rather than do the decent thing and sod off he's basically swanning about like king of all he surveys. As hard as it may seem, and it will be hard, you need to begin to formulate a plan to leave him. He's used to being dominant within an unequal relationship so I suspect he will go nuclear. But you need to hold your nerve. Get legal advice, and go from there. Good luck OP, your life, without this toxic man will be transformed. It's within your grasp, don't give up.

EnthusiasticButterfly · 21/08/2025 11:50

ThePoliteLion · 20/08/2025 22:39

OP, I’m sorry you are in this situation and agree with PPs that the marriage appears bad for you and your children. Find a good, family law specialist solicitor - many will provide an initial half hour consultation at no charge. Quietly get your ducks in a row. Don’t move out of your home. Stay there with your kids until a financial settlement is reached. If you can persuade your husband to move elsewhere in the interim, that should make your day to day life easier (I realise he might well refuse). Agree a sensible regime for all the children to spend time with their dad. The elder two will have views of their own about this. Be prepared for him to behave very badly. Also be prepared for this to take up to two years or more. But you can do it. In my job I’ve acted for many in your position and all have come through. You’ll probably feel significantly less well off, but relieved. All the best with it.

Edited

Feel like I’d need so much more than 30 mins free consultation. Feels like lawyer fees would spiral, feels so overwhelming. He would almost certainly refuse to leave.

Somehow comforting to know you’ve seen it before, actually close up and it’s worked out in the end…

One step at a time I guess. Feels like I have so much to loose right now…Literally no good options 😔

Thanks though, probably will feel better ❤️‍🩹 once I start taking some action.

What’s so odd is I feel like the bad guy, like I’m in the wrong and yet he’s just swanned off on yet another holiday (apparently low cost) with our middle, leaving me to deal with all logistics for current house renovations + 2 kids. After telling me last week we are short on money and WE have to slow down spending. 👀
(I think this is trip number 7/8 of the year for him). Ok anyway thanks again.
So grateful for any help at this surreal juncture. 😵‍💫🥴

OP posts:
BigCity · 21/08/2025 13:12

So if he’s away this is a good opportunity to gather evidence. I don’t think legal advice before you have all the financial info is that useful. It’s often fairly generic. You can learn a lot yourself from online guides. Look at Form E and ES2 forms for financial proceedings as that is the info a court would need. Be careful about clearing your internet history.

The way the law works these days the split probably won’t vary if you stay or leave - you will both still need to house children for the time they are with you. You will both be seen to have made an equal contribution in a long marriage. If you don’t want to keep the family home and buy him out then there is little point staying especially if it’s a money pit and he won’t leave. It doesn’t fit the lifestyle you want anyway. It stops you getting work and isolates you / sucks up time you could be spending on more productive things like a job with a pension.

Do the benefit and CM calculators.

i think your priority is putting enough money aside for a rent deposit and first months rent - an escape fund. Sell stuff if you need to.

He clearly has access to money he is not sharing with you. You need transparency if you mainly use credit cards and pay them off with earnings you need to see the transactions. If he says overspending then ask to see everything so you can see what you can cut back on. How can you do this if you don’t know what he’s spending. His business expenses should be separate.

My ex was terrible with money (earning and spending) and I was financially better off without him and most importantly I had control over what was coming in and going out each month. I couldn’t live with this level of financial uncertainty and insecurity.

Once you know his income, pension (this is all online now so he can show you current value and predicted pension), savings etc then you can take it all to a lawyer.

Do you know how much the house is worth/equity?

You don’t have to leave immediately you can just get prepared.

jeaux90 · 21/08/2025 16:11

OP he sound bloody awful. We can all see that. Book to see a solicitor, start doing something about it.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 21/08/2025 23:57

OP.. re being overwhelmed and needing more than the half hour free advice sessions

I once had to deal with a complicated estate issue with solicitors,, The best thing you can do is to write down in brief the headlines. They will ask you questions where they don't understand..

  1. Who is who, jobs, ages . Maybe a family tree diagram is a quick way to show this

  2. His behaviour towards you. How often he is away. Taking one child on holiday (usually the favoured boy if I read correctly). You've already given some examples in this thread.

  3. a very brief timeline. date of marriage.. date of house purchase (check land registry to see if its really in both names) date of children's births, his holidays etc..

  4. Finances.
    Income - both jobs.
    Assets - who owns what.
    Bank Accounts -
    Credit Cards. loans, mortgage
    Expenses - who pays what

Also one or two sentences about financial abuse. (on this thread)

Keep it all as brief as possible. They will tell you what and how to find further info.

It sounds like a long list, but you've already been writing some of it in this thread.
So don't be daunted..its not a bad way to get started. See if a friend can be with you, as it may feel quite emotional writing it all down.

Good luck

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