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To be sick of the royal propaganda the UK is fed?

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Ukisgaslit · 16/08/2025 10:06

I know most people don’t give a damn about the Windsors any more .

However , in a week when we learn about Philip’s affairs - notably with Sarah Ferguson’s mother ( all covered up of course like the rest of their debachery) we are now expected to swallow the line that William and Kate’s next mansion is ‘paid for by William and Kate themselves ‘

No . That’s not the complete truth .Every penny the Windsors have , they have taken from the people . We now know William and Charles make millions from public services like the NHS schools and charities . We only know about this as a result of dogged journalistic digging . And most of the mainstream media barely covered the scandal .

There are many threads here about how the UK is in steep decline and how people are suffering . Yet the royals are taking in half a billion a year and charging charities on top !

At least admit to us that all their money is stolen from us ?

Oh and if you haven’t heard the queen knew all about Andrew pocketing money via ‘pitch at the palace’

She was told repeatedly by officials . She did nothing
Can we have some facts please ?
The Windsors are a total facade - they are all like Andrew - he’s just the latest fall guy .

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cumbriaisbest · 17/08/2025 19:35

SomethingFun · 17/08/2025 19:22

These people are bleeding the country of money so they can live a life of luxury whilst doing fuck all and what gets people going is bitching about Kate’s hair and makeup when she’s had cancer. Ffs.

I couldn’t care less if William is angry or Charles is autistic, they are obviously an unhappy bunch and should sack it off and leave us be. I think the other aristos won’t let them though as it’s not just the royal family, but the whole lot of the parasitical class that need to pay their tax, give back whatever they stole from our ancestors and fuck off and get real jobs.

Which jobs do you think they could do please?

Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar · 17/08/2025 19:39

The problem is, the royals entire existence - everything they know, everything they were brought up with, everything their parents knew, going way way back, has relied on people loving them and believing in them. That's their whole thing. There are 100s of people working on just that - their image, and making sure enough people like them to survive.
Sometimes those people working around them decide that there needs to be a sacrifice and it's usually a woman who is high-ranking enough for people to care about her, but low-ranking enough for it not to really matter what happens to her. So it could never be Diana, the people had to love Diana, but it could be Sarah, as the wife of the second son, she was the perfect scapegoat, so the press vilified her and begged up Diana. Are we seeing a pattern here?

Trouble is, Prince Charles, as was, was obsessed with Camilla and needed her so desperatly as a lover and a mother figure to him, he clung to her and refused to let go and it caused a huge problem because they had bigged up Diana so much that everyone adored her to almost reverent proportions and when she died, she practically became a saint. So now they had a partner/wife of a future King that noone was going to love and adore as much as they needed to and the plan they had with Diana had gone to absolute shit.

They needed a SERIOUS scapegoat to take the heat of Camilla and also make Kate look good, ready for when she took over. Not just a bit of deflection like with Sarah and Diana, but they needed someone for the public to absolutely despise before they could ever make people accept Camilla at all, never mind like her.

This was always going to be the wife of the second son, just like before, so Harry's wife. No matter who she was. If it had been Chelsy, it would have been her. But it was Meghan and her being mixed race and American just made it all so easy for them.

Then Harry, as I said, made an understandable mistake by whisking her away from it all, and made it all even easier for them.

Noone cares about the evil marriage stealing "other woman" Camilla any more. Meghan is much more easier and fun to hate and the press had all the highly experienced and intelligent, gaslighted spin doctors working with them will continue to play on that. It will never let up.

And Harry really doesn't know how to manage it, and has no one to help him. He acts on his heart and doesn't think like the manipulators around him. He can't out maneuvered them. He'll never win and he knows it. I honestly feel so sorry for him, he never stood a chance, no matter how much good he did in the army, with invictus games, how much he was adored before as a cheeky chappie, he had a role to play to ensure survival of more important people and they were going to make damn sure he played it, even kicking and screaming.

It's toxic, it's unhealthy, its dangerous, it's cruel but here's the second problem - every single one of them beleives with all their hearts that the monarchy will and should last forever and ever and they have absolutely no back up plan. No alternative. It's this or nothing. Even if they don't want it or like it, it's their destiny and their lot and it's all they have. So it will go on and on and on until the modern day Robspiere appears and puts a stop to it, I guess.

SomethingFun · 17/08/2025 19:43

Are you asking me what jobs the aristocracy could do if the state took back all the money and land they have taken from the people and they needed to work for a living like the rest of us?

Onlyfans or Deliveroo bike couriers I guess if their expensive educations didn’t provide them with any skills or knowledge they could use to earn some cash. I wouldn’t be losing any sleep over it personally.

Catsinaflat · 17/08/2025 19:44

Fergie’s mum and Philip was old news. Think it came out in the 80s when she married Andrew.

MistyGreenAndBlue · 17/08/2025 19:47

LifeOfAShowGirl · 16/08/2025 12:49

And how old was Andrew? An adult with a child is never excusable.

And it's a bit of a stretch to call it a "relationship"
It was a fuck. A coerced fuck at that

While it does not make him an actual paedophile (pre pubescent children) it does make him a rapist and peice of shit.

Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar · 17/08/2025 19:56

2dogsandabudgie · 17/08/2025 19:04

Were you in the room with her whilst she was giving birth? I'm quite sure the last thing any woman would want whilst in labour would be someone faffing about with their hair, not to mention what the midwife/doctor would have to say.

I'm not able/won't say what my role with her was.
But I will say that I am speaking in facts. I'm not making it up.

They were doing her make up and hair in early stages of labour and while all the world press were waiting outside for the baby to come out, Kate was with her entire team including dressers, make up artist, hairdresser etc, making sure she was camera ready just mere hours after giving birth.

They almost constantly have a team of people with them.

x2boys · 17/08/2025 20:08

Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar · 17/08/2025 18:30

He absolutely is, and so is Prince Louis

you absolutely can't say either of them are Autistic paticularly, prince Louis, he's a small child who the public have seen a handful of times, why would you wish a disability on him?

bldy · 17/08/2025 20:09

@Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar does William actually want to be King?

cumbriaisbest · 17/08/2025 20:11

x2boys · 17/08/2025 20:08

you absolutely can't say either of them are Autistic paticularly, prince Louis, he's a small child who the public have seen a handful of times, why would you wish a disability on him?

Thin ice skating.

Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar · 17/08/2025 20:18

bldy · 17/08/2025 20:09

@Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar does William actually want to be King?

It's not quite as black and white as that.

It's more like an inevitable thing for him that he's always known would happen since he can remember. It's part of him, it's in his very psyche. Its in his name, in the very way that he is addressed by the majority of people. It's the entire reason he was conceived and exists. It's LITERALLY what he was born to do.

It's almost like knowing that one day we will die. Obviously this isn't as morbid and final as that but it just is what it is and noone, least of all him, ever really thinks about whether he wants it or not, just how he's going to manage it and do his best at it I guess.

As I said, they all absolutely beleive this is their destiny and birthright and duty and will go on for ever and ever. No back up plan exists. It's an inevitable road to go down and he's travelling it fast.

bldy · 17/08/2025 20:24

thanks

CathyorClaire · 17/08/2025 20:40

I am not much of a fan of K Charles either, but nobody has ever accused him of being lazy.

I have posted these links recently but they're worth repeating here:

'Part time King' Charles works just seven weeks in a year

Whole shebang together generously put in about six month's fulltime pa:

www.republic.org.uk/prince_william_costing_taxpayer_over_127_000_an_hour_republic

2dogsandabudgie · 17/08/2025 20:45

Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar · 17/08/2025 18:30

He absolutely is, and so is Prince Louis

So you're actually saying it's a fact that KC and Prince Louis are autistic. Surely you're in breach of your employment confidentiality agreement by saying this.

wellington77 · 17/08/2025 20:49

So you’re basing this all on one source? Or am I wrong? If you are then I’m sorry that is not good enough to form an opinion from. As a Historian you need multiple sources from various authors which have different purposes for being written, dates, nature and origin.

wimonnzy · 17/08/2025 20:50

I reckon the current lot actually hope for a bored and indifferent public going forward, then they can do as little as they like, but keep the privileges. They are rather boring themselves, so I'd say they are hoping it will rub off on the rest of us.

LidlAmaretto · 17/08/2025 21:18

bldy · 17/08/2025 20:09

@Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar does William actually want to be King?

I mean he may want to he a helicopter pilot/ farmer/ fireman whatever but I bet he sure as shit doesn't want to live on their incomes! I would imagine he sees his Aristo mates having to sell their homes to the National trust because they can't fix the roof and doesn't want that either!

Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar · 17/08/2025 21:22

wimonnzy · 17/08/2025 20:50

I reckon the current lot actually hope for a bored and indifferent public going forward, then they can do as little as they like, but keep the privileges. They are rather boring themselves, so I'd say they are hoping it will rub off on the rest of us.

If you are speaking to me. I am speaking from my own personal eyewitness experiences.

cumbriaisbest · 18/08/2025 08:24

Laughing to myself at the thought of various Royals actually putting in a days work.

My highly capable and highly educated daughter has just found a job after a year of trying. Rubbish pay, no chance of ever buying property.

What do they actually " do" Fuck all.

wimonnzy · 18/08/2025 08:43

Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar · 17/08/2025 21:22

If you are speaking to me. I am speaking from my own personal eyewitness experiences.

I was making a general point about them. Wasn't commenting on your comments.

x2boys · 18/08/2025 09:00

cumbriaisbest · 18/08/2025 08:24

Laughing to myself at the thought of various Royals actually putting in a days work.

My highly capable and highly educated daughter has just found a job after a year of trying. Rubbish pay, no chance of ever buying property.

What do they actually " do" Fuck all.

Oh but opening buildings and after dinner speeches must be such hard work!

Ihateboris · 18/08/2025 09:15

cumbriaisbest · 18/08/2025 08:24

Laughing to myself at the thought of various Royals actually putting in a days work.

My highly capable and highly educated daughter has just found a job after a year of trying. Rubbish pay, no chance of ever buying property.

What do they actually " do" Fuck all.

I know, how exhausting it must be to get everything done for you, everything paid for you, cut the odd ribbon and fly around in private planes. Now where's my teeny tiny violin.

cumbriaisbest · 18/08/2025 09:31

Don't some of them run Art Galleries or something?

x2boys · 18/08/2025 09:39

cumbriaisbest · 18/08/2025 09:31

Don't some of them run Art Galleries or something?

Maybe ,but i doubt they actually do very much other than swan around
People always compliment Princess Anne for her work ethics and yes whilst she does fi more than most of them she's hardly doing a grueling shift in a factory, as a nurse in a shop etc is she
Being chauffeured to a couple of functions every day is hardly what I would call hard work.

Insanityisnotastrategy · 18/08/2025 10:08

x2boys · 18/08/2025 09:00

Oh but opening buildings and after dinner speeches must be such hard work!

I'd find it hard. All that attention and having to look perfectly groomed, public speaking - nightmare!

Ukisgaslit · 18/08/2025 10:11

Re The Windsors and charities - that was always a scam
When did so called royalty transition from incest and murder to pretend to be benevolent?
Im not sure but I know in the 20th century they felt the wind of change ( they abandoned their relatives to their fate - ‘nothing to do with us !’)
Put your name on a charity and steal the good works of others to prop up the facade was the scam .
It’s the lies that I am sickened by - the constant PR that they are good and special while - well we know don’t we-
Elizabeth and Philip were a lie for decades. Philip slept around but the publicity was always ‘the perfect marriage - an example to us all of duty and dedication’

Now we know the Windsors will be a patron of a charity while also charging said charity to operate !
The charity scam has run its course plus William is too lazy to visit them so now it’s ’ lets make vague promises to solve homelessness and protect the environment ( two areas where the Windsors are vulnerable to criticism )
Holiday constantly - but say you are saving the environment
Own multiple houses ( we own 90% of them - but we pay for all of them to be maintained ) but set yourself up as a campaigner for homelessness

It’s a transparent attempt to deflect criticism.
Id say they need a new line but I don’t think William cares much what anyone thinks of him.
They don’t interact with the public - it’s all shipped in primary school children or better yet - an instagram reel - can’t be heckled on insta !
He’ll only care if there’s talk of cutting his take from the taxpayer

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