Still think Two Tier justice does not exist?

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Ricky Jones found not guilty..my flabber has never been so ghasted!
Anyone have any views..

Same men?
The cars and the pub?
No, different places

https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/elon-musk-fake-video-ai-hospital-birmingham-5HjcyZ9_2/

Did you now? Someone can be a racist and a loving mother. LC is clearly a racist but what happened to her was not appropriate. All
you intellectual giants on here can argue points of law as much as you like.

That is just your opinion. The law is as it is. She did the crime, she pleaded guilty, she was told what the consequences would be and signed a document to state she understood.

Should women get lesser sentences just because they have children? For all crimes?

The permadim would probably say they should. Which (passim) plays into the narrative that women are poor ickle things that shouldn't get involved in Big Matters.

Someone can be a murderer and a loving mother. That doesn't mean that they shouldn't go to prison if they murder someone.

LC pleaded guilty to inciting racial hatred. She was sentenced in accordance with the sentencing guidelines. I'm not sure why the fact of her being "a loving mother" should make any difference to that.

The best way of ensuring that you're not separated from your child by being sent to jail is to avoid committing the kinds of crime that carry custodial sentences. It isn't rocket science.

Nobody made Lucy Connolly spout racist shit all over the Internet. It was her own free choice, and actions have consequences. She is not a victim.

Maybe @GoldThumb could report their posts for disinformation and the use of AI generated false images.

They surely wouldn't want others falling for the lie.

I understand all of that but people in general don’t understand why that ex MP who beat someone up or Huw Edwards didn’t spend a day in prison.

As the old saying goes - two wrongs don't make a right.

Honestly Derxa, this is beneath you. You don't normally stoop to petty insults.

You seem really angry, are you OK? I mean that genuinely, not an attempt at snark.

What’s this got to do with me?

I didn’t post this, or anything about it?

Clearly didn’t bother to look at the actual links I posted, if you think I posted this.

So what?

I don't understand why those people didn't go to prison either. Equally, I don't know why the fucker who assaulted my dh in a racist attack outside our house didn't go to prison.

Are you suggesting that nobody should ever be given custodial sentences because some perpetrators manage to escape them? I'm afraid I can't get on board with that.

I’m still intrigued why this was posted…?

One afternoon, in a highly emotionally charged period shortly after the Axel Rudakubana savage murdered 3 young children, she tweeted “ Set fire to all the migrant hotels for all I care”. Whilst we can agree this was unwise and bad judgement, it was ultimately apathy with the words “ for all I care” signifying indifference resulting from emotions running high.

Excuses, excuses. Millions upon millions of us were watching the situation in Southport unfold and managed not to post any inflammatory racist crap. In fact, millions upon millions of us have managed never to post any racist crap at all.

Lucy Connolly needs to take responsibility for her actions. Just like all of us do.

I'm with you on the jury system, but then I'm originally from a country that doesn't use this system.

@BeOliveWriter Your post is full of inaccuracies and you seem to have decided, with no legal knowledge, that the judicial system of England needs to be scrapped immediately.

This is because your racist follower, who followed far right activists like Tommy Robinson, got carried away and incited racial hatred.

You're also telling fibs. There's no evidence she was badly advised but there is evidence that she was fully aware of what she pleaded guilty to.

Thanks for the laugh. ❤

Imagine any sane person thinking a tweet on twitter not caring if a hotel burnt down is worse than actually screaming " Slit their throats " as a Labour councillor in public. If Ricky Jones was right you would be screaming for his head - the meltdown if Farage had encouraged the crowd to slit throats of a group he seemed the enemy would have been priceless but Jones is Labour so it's ok

This was evidenced today by 12 jury members deciding that Ricky Jones who said “ Cut their throats” using a slicing motion was not guilty of incitement due to reasons including, but not limited to being forced to run around in his underpants 40 years ago suffering from ADHD

It is Sunday today. The jury decision was on Friday. Have you cut and pasted this from somewhere @BeOliveWriter ?

Do you not understand the concept of trial by jury?

Nobody on here has said that. Literally nobody. All we have done is point out that the two crimes were different in law, and that the people who committed them chose different paths. FWIW I don't think Ricky Jones should have been found not guilty - but that doesn't mean we have a two tier system, or that Lucy Connolly is a victim. She took advice, she chose to plead guilty, she digned a document stating she understood what she was signing up for, including that it would mean jail. She's an adult, she committed a crime, here are the consequences.

The simple solution would have been not to post racist hatred online, like millions of us manage to do every single day.

If the end result of it means someone tweeting something walking her dog gets years in jail contrary to screaming infront of a crowd actual threats of death rather than apathy than time it was scrapped. Do you understand the concept of justice and common sense. If I said " Kill yourself for all I care" on a computer screen, do you think that's worse than shouting " Slit her throat "in real life?

It's so strange she got a custodial sentence as they try to go out of their way to avoid them

• A custodial sentence must not be imposed unless the offence or the combination of the offence and one or more offences associated with it was so serious that neither a fine alone nor a community sentence can be justified for the offence.

Factors indicating that it would not be appropriate to suspend a custodial sentence

Offender presents a risk/danger to the public
History of poor compliance with court orders
Appropriate punishment can only be achieved by immediate custody

Factors indicating that it may be appropriate to suspend a custodial sentence

Strong personal mitigation
Realistic prospect of rehabilitation
Immediate custody will result in significant harmful impact upon others

• For offenders on the cusp of custody, imprisonment should not be imposed where there would be an impact on dependants which would make a custodial sentence disproportionate to achieving the aims of sentencing.

I think the fact she regretted her actions AND had a child AND no actual harm was caused as a result of her tweet means that she should NOT have had a custodial sentence

If there was no other option, then it should have been suspended

I just feel for her daughter at a critical age with her mother in jail.

It was disproportionate

No one should be in jail for years due to "poor legal advice" Courts should use common sense with someone's fate not hinging on how rich they are getting better solicitors. It's reprehensible and if Farage had screamed " Slit their throats" there would be outrage on here