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AIBU to think my ex should pay more child maintenance when he earns £720k a year?

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Pashpash24 · 13/08/2025 19:14

I’ll try to keep this as short as possible while giving some back story.

I was with my ex-partner for four years. We had a son together, but he walked out before he was born. He saw him a few times as a newborn, but I had asked that he didn’t bring his new partner. My son was six weeks old when he turned up at my door with her, even though I’d said it was too soon.

He took me to court saying she should be allowed to meet him. The court agreed it was too soon and suggested maybe when the baby was older.

Because of that, he told me he would never see his son again. I was devastated and said fine, she can meet him, because I didn’t want him to walk away. But he still refused and never saw him again.

For six years, he had no contact — no visits, no messages, nothing. The only thing he did was pay child maintenance. It was a decent amount (£1,277.50 a month), and I never asked for more.

He went on to have three more children with his now wife. I just got on with life until one day my son came out of school and asked, “I must have a dad, right?” I’d never told him about his father because I didn’t want him to feel abandoned.

When he started asking more questions, I texted his dad to say I was going to tell him the truth — I wasn’t going to raise him on a lie. I’d messaged over the years, even sent photos, and he’d read them on WhatsApp but never replied. So I didn’t expect a response this time either.

Surprisingly, he replied and said maybe it was time to meet. This was when my son was six (he’s now nearly nine). In the last three years, he’s probably met him in person about 10 times. He calls roughly once every 10 days, which I think is poor — it should’ve progressed a lot more by now.

Anyway, to the point. I recently logged into my Child Maintenance account after receiving an unusual notification. It showed his salary: £720,000 a year.

I’ve always been paid £1,277.50 a month because that’s what CMS caps it at. He could earn £1 million a week and I’d still receive that same amount — you have to go to court for any increase.

Would he be able to afford more? Absolutely. I know it’s a decent amount, but he only pays it because that’s the legal minimum CMS tells him to.

I’m self-employed and work part-time so my son can do after-school activities — he’s football mad and trains/plays four times a week. I’m essentially raising him alone; my dad moved 40 miles away, and I have no relationship with my mum. I rarely get a break, but that’s been the reality since the start.

I’ve never asked for an increase, but life is much more expensive now. £1,277 doesn’t go as far as it did six years ago, and £720,000 a year is a huge income.

To put it into perspective — CMS only calculates maintenance on a maximum salary of £156,000 a year. My ex earns over four times that, but I still only get the amount they’d set for £156k — just over 2% of his actual income. Unless I go to court for a “top-up order”, that’s all I’ll ever get.

AIBU to ask for more?

OP posts:
butterfly0404 · 13/08/2025 20:52

Relative to his income it's not much, especially if you want to save for him going to uni, future house deposit etc.

If he is a pro sportman, he may not be earning at that level for very long, particularly if it's football, as others have said his income may drop considerably in future. Secure what you can for your son in line with hiw his other children are provider for. Your son should be treated no differently.

vivainsomnia · 13/08/2025 20:52

Funny, when I was a single mum, working FT because working PT was not an option....because I got 0 maintenance for 2 children, I managed to find ways so my kids could still do activities after school. It really wasn't that hard to ask other parents if they'd be interested in taking my kids from school and I would bring their back home and parents were very happy with that option.

You can twist as you want but the football is nothing more than an excuse. In between the maintenance and UC, I suspect you get much more than the average single mother working FT. Yet, you think you should get even more from him.

Don't forget that in 10 years time, you'll have no maintenance and no or very little UC coming in, oh and I guess a very small pension fund if any. 10 years go by very quickly. I'd focus on preparing for the future rather than trying to get even more from him.

Pashpash24 · 13/08/2025 20:53

OhCalmTheFuckDownMargaret · 13/08/2025 20:47

So every month, exactly £1,277.50 is being spent on your son? Because that’s what this is about, the money is solely to be spent on your son. Don’t make the mistake a previous poster made of finding out how much he earned and getting greedy. Remember this isn’t maintenance to support you. It’s just for your son and if you’re spending £1,277.50 on him every month then he’s having quite a comfortable life really.

Maintenance goes towards the roof I put over my son’s head, the bills, the clothes on his back all that. My rent alone is £950 a month. This is the point I was trying to make to somebody earlier. When my son was born, my rent was £550 a month. It’s almost doubled. No I’m not absolutely in my arse skint every month but truthfully there are months that are difficult and I completely get that a lot of the UK are in the same boat. I’m super lucky to get what I get of course I am. But when I have a son who’s dad is still doing the absolute bare minimum three years in I find it really frustrating.

OP posts:
northernballer · 13/08/2025 20:53

For all the people saying it doesn't cost that much per month to raise a child - surely housing costs that? I get the OP lives there as well but that maintenance payment wouldn't even cover my mortgage!

Rosscameasdoody · 13/08/2025 20:53

OneNeatBlueOrca · 13/08/2025 20:51

You actually benefited from refusing to allow him to see your son with his girlfriend. I get it, you felt it was too soon. But if you hadn't done that, your son would probably be very much a part of his dad's, and his now, wife and half siblings lives.

If he hadnt walked off in a strop, your son would probably be spending fifty percent of his time with his dad and you would be entitled to absolutely nothing because your son lived with him equal amounts of time.

That is quite a huge sum of money to have been getting all this time. It doesn't cost that much per month to raise one child. I'd watch rocking the boat too much and I'd look into increasing your working hours if youre struggling for money.

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Did you miss the part where OP says her son has a healthy savings account waiting for him, so she’s clearly looking after his future needs. Her son won’t be having anything like the lifestyle the other three kids have, and if the money goes towards a better education and a better life for the child, what’s the problem. And saying that OP benefited from refusing her son to see his dad with his girlfriend is the height of hypocrisy. Women who post that they allow their children to meet their new partners have their arses handed to them on a plate on MN. So why is it fine for a man to do it ?

Squishymallows · 13/08/2025 20:54

HermioneWeasley · 13/08/2025 19:37

I’d ask whether he’d consider setting up a savings account for your DS so it’s clear he’s not funding you

I think this is a great suggestion

FrippEnos · 13/08/2025 20:55

JHound · 13/08/2025 20:52

Where did she say her ex’s job is as an athlete?

Pashpash24 · Today 20:21

He plays sport for a living.

Rosscameasdoody · 13/08/2025 20:56

northernballer · 13/08/2025 20:53

For all the people saying it doesn't cost that much per month to raise a child - surely housing costs that? I get the OP lives there as well but that maintenance payment wouldn't even cover my mortgage!

Exactly. Some of the comments here are disgusting.

Bananafofana · 13/08/2025 20:56

I wish you all the best OP. If your ex is a pro sportsman he might be inclined to support your son’s football development with specific support : eg when he gets a bit older there are incredible football camps in Europe in the summer holidays (that are a couple of grand a week). Maybe focus on that angle?

OneNeatBlueOrca · 13/08/2025 20:58

Rosscameasdoody · 13/08/2025 20:53

Did you miss the part where OP says her son has a healthy savings account waiting for him, so she’s clearly looking after his future needs. Her son won’t be having anything like the lifestyle the other three kids have, and if the money goes towards a better education and a better life for the child, what’s the problem. And saying that OP benefited from refusing her son to see his dad with his girlfriend is the height of hypocrisy. Women who post that they allow their children to meet their new partners have their arses handed to them on a plate on MN. So why is it fine for a man to do it ?

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There's something a bit less threatening about women, though. It is completely different when a woman introduces a man to her children.Because they are by definition more of a threat.

Rightly or wrongly, I think that a woman introducing a new man into her young children's lives is more of a risk than a man introducing a woman to a newborn baby with the babies mother present too. What exactly do you think the woman was going to do in those circumstances?

A male partner i would be a lot more cautious of around children until you knew him really well., but women less cautious depending on the circumstances.

One look at this site tells you the men are often arse holes who can't be trusted to look after their own children properly and the woman gets left with it all. There are loads of threads on this board of stories of women who have become step mothers, and their partner has pretty much dumped their children on them to be raised. And women do step up even though these kids aren't theirs.

You ve even heard it from a family lawyer on this board the what he's paying is adequate and yet you still won't leave it alone.

Rosscameasdoody · 13/08/2025 21:00

vivainsomnia · 13/08/2025 20:52

Funny, when I was a single mum, working FT because working PT was not an option....because I got 0 maintenance for 2 children, I managed to find ways so my kids could still do activities after school. It really wasn't that hard to ask other parents if they'd be interested in taking my kids from school and I would bring their back home and parents were very happy with that option.

You can twist as you want but the football is nothing more than an excuse. In between the maintenance and UC, I suspect you get much more than the average single mother working FT. Yet, you think you should get even more from him.

Don't forget that in 10 years time, you'll have no maintenance and no or very little UC coming in, oh and I guess a very small pension fund if any. 10 years go by very quickly. I'd focus on preparing for the future rather than trying to get even more from him.

And you don’t think OP is trying to prepare for her childs future ? His dad earns a hefty sum and OP’s son won’t have anything like the lifestyle or opportunities that the other three kids will have. At the very least his dad should be offering private school and all the other privileges his other children get. OP has made it clear that it’s not about her, it’s about her son. I don’t know why women come to MN for advice - most just end up getting a kicking.

converseandjeans · 13/08/2025 21:00

vivainsomnia · 13/08/2025 20:52

Funny, when I was a single mum, working FT because working PT was not an option....because I got 0 maintenance for 2 children, I managed to find ways so my kids could still do activities after school. It really wasn't that hard to ask other parents if they'd be interested in taking my kids from school and I would bring their back home and parents were very happy with that option.

You can twist as you want but the football is nothing more than an excuse. In between the maintenance and UC, I suspect you get much more than the average single mother working FT. Yet, you think you should get even more from him.

Don't forget that in 10 years time, you'll have no maintenance and no or very little UC coming in, oh and I guess a very small pension fund if any. 10 years go by very quickly. I'd focus on preparing for the future rather than trying to get even more from him.

@vivainsomnia if son is playing academy football it really does need a parent available to take them more than once a week. It’s unlikely there will be mates up the road who can take him & OP bring back as the kids will come from all over.

Also he will be paying loads of tax. If he plays a sport he might not always earn that much. So I think the suggestion of asking to contribute to a savings account isn’t unreasonable.

Is he also a footballer? If so then perhaps he will understand the commitment to the academy?

PamIsAVolleyballChamp · 13/08/2025 21:02

he’s been in his life for three years now and he’s never even had him overnight.

If he offered or to take him on holiday would you allow this? Or do you still have an issue with his partner (and mother of his 3 other dc?)

Rosscameasdoody · 13/08/2025 21:02

OneNeatBlueOrca · 13/08/2025 20:58

There's something a bit less threatening about women, though. It is completely different when a woman introduces a man to her children.Because they are by definition more of a threat.

Rightly or wrongly, I think that a woman introducing a new man into her young children's lives is more of a risk than a man introducing a woman to a newborn baby with the babies mother present too. What exactly do you think the woman was going to do in those circumstances?

A male partner i would be a lot more cautious of around children until you knew him really well., but women less cautious depending on the circumstances.

One look at this site tells you the men are often arse holes who can't be trusted to look after their own children properly and the woman gets left with it all. There are loads of threads on this board of stories of women who have become step mothers, and their partner has pretty much dumped their children on them to be raised. And women do step up even though these kids aren't theirs.

You ve even heard it from a family lawyer on this board the what he's paying is adequate and yet you still won't leave it alone.

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I don’t care what the lawyer on this site thinks to be honest. This is his child and his father should be making sure he has the same opportunities as his other kids. And to suggest that it’s not OK for a woman to introduce a new partner to her kids but it’s fine for a man to do it is beyond misogyny. Sex is no indicator of whether someone is safe to be around your children.

Littlemrsconfetti · 13/08/2025 21:02

YABU. You surely can manage on that maintenance OP. I think you need to have a plan because it could end tomorrow!

Pashpash24 · 13/08/2025 21:05

vivainsomnia · 13/08/2025 20:52

Funny, when I was a single mum, working FT because working PT was not an option....because I got 0 maintenance for 2 children, I managed to find ways so my kids could still do activities after school. It really wasn't that hard to ask other parents if they'd be interested in taking my kids from school and I would bring their back home and parents were very happy with that option.

You can twist as you want but the football is nothing more than an excuse. In between the maintenance and UC, I suspect you get much more than the average single mother working FT. Yet, you think you should get even more from him.

Don't forget that in 10 years time, you'll have no maintenance and no or very little UC coming in, oh and I guess a very small pension fund if any. 10 years go by very quickly. I'd focus on preparing for the future rather than trying to get even more from him.

And you can word it however you like I have absolutely nobody to help me with my son and I truly mean that. You may have been comfortable asking other children’s parents to take your children places but when I was collecting my son at 6 pm on an evening there weren’t many parents there to even say hello to and not only that I’m not leaving my child with other adults who I’ve no idea who they are. I completely admire that you did what you needed to back in the day and I did what I did for as long as could but I hated it. And not that I need to even say this but my son was having issues with his behaviour so I wouldn’t have even wanted to have left him with someone else at that point in his life.

OP posts:
HappySummerDays · 13/08/2025 21:05

This is his child and his father should be making sure he has the same opportunities as his other kids.
Yes - I totally agree with you. He should. But unfortunately for the op and her child, he probably won't. Her son will be one of many many children who will suffer as a result of having a father who doesn't really care about them.

Rosscameasdoody · 13/08/2025 21:08

PamIsAVolleyballChamp · 13/08/2025 20:41

This, is the extra money for you or your son? What does he need it for?
take him on more days out, and go on more holidays together
Sounds like you stuff. Do you think parents who work full time to provide for their children aren't providing a 'good quality of life'? Slightly judgy!

How much do you think OP pays to keep a roof over her son’s head, to pay the bills, to put decent food in his stomach ? It’s not about luxuries, it’s about the fact that the cost of living is astronomical and it all adds up.

ConfusedSloth · 13/08/2025 21:08

Rosscameasdoody · 13/08/2025 20:40

So you don’t think his child by OP is deserving of the same privileges his other children will undoubtedly have ?

I’m somewhat flattered you think my opinion decides how the courts work but, alas, no.

I don’t decide how it works, I’m just stating how it works. The order is for exceptional circumstances - this doesn’t come close to meeting the requirements.

OneNeatBlueOrca · 13/08/2025 21:08

Rosscameasdoody · 13/08/2025 21:02

I don’t care what the lawyer on this site thinks to be honest. This is his child and his father should be making sure he has the same opportunities as his other kids. And to suggest that it’s not OK for a woman to introduce a new partner to her kids but it’s fine for a man to do it is beyond misogyny. Sex is no indicator of whether someone is safe to be around your children.

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And that's why clients are so difficult much of the time. I am a lawyer too by the way, but not a family lawyer.I haven't done family law since I was a trainee. That's why I'll defer to the other poster.Who said she was a family lawyer

It's clients like that who are the worst to handle because they will not take advice

I will say to you what I say to my clients who do not like the advice they are given.

The advice I give you is on the law as it is and not on the law as you might like it to be.

If you don't care what the legal advice is, the law equally doesn't care that you don't like it. You get what you get.

Pashpash24 · 13/08/2025 21:09

PamIsAVolleyballChamp · 13/08/2025 21:02

he’s been in his life for three years now and he’s never even had him overnight.

If he offered or to take him on holiday would you allow this? Or do you still have an issue with his partner (and mother of his 3 other dc?)

I don’t have an issue with her at all it was 10 years ago. And of course I would! I wish he’d see him more but he doesn’t.

OP posts:
Kisskiss · 13/08/2025 21:10

His dad should pay more- he can afford it.
1k a month is not a lot vs his salary and wouldn’t be enough to pay for half a part time nanny which would give OP time to develop her own career and have a child and a life ( which his dad has)

HappySummerDays · 13/08/2025 21:10

@Rosscameasdoody
The op has said she would use the extra money to take him on more holidays and more days out - not simply to put a roof over his head.

RubySquid · 13/08/2025 21:10

Rosscameasdoody · 13/08/2025 20:49

I love how hypocritical MN is. How many threads do we see ripping women to shreds for introducing their children to new partners too soon. Yet it’s fine for a man to do it ?

The child was a newborn baby at the time not one who had grown up with parents together then watched them split up. Totally different

iamnotalemon · 13/08/2025 21:10

northernballer · 13/08/2025 20:53

For all the people saying it doesn't cost that much per month to raise a child - surely housing costs that? I get the OP lives there as well but that maintenance payment wouldn't even cover my mortgage!

The OP is getting maintenance, p/t salary and I’m sure UC and is taking home enough to have a ‘healthy savings account’ for her child but wants more maintenance and will probably still only work part time due to the restrictions of ‘football’.

No wonder the country is in a mess.

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