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AIBU to think my ex should pay more child maintenance when he earns £720k a year?

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Pashpash24 · 13/08/2025 19:14

I’ll try to keep this as short as possible while giving some back story.

I was with my ex-partner for four years. We had a son together, but he walked out before he was born. He saw him a few times as a newborn, but I had asked that he didn’t bring his new partner. My son was six weeks old when he turned up at my door with her, even though I’d said it was too soon.

He took me to court saying she should be allowed to meet him. The court agreed it was too soon and suggested maybe when the baby was older.

Because of that, he told me he would never see his son again. I was devastated and said fine, she can meet him, because I didn’t want him to walk away. But he still refused and never saw him again.

For six years, he had no contact — no visits, no messages, nothing. The only thing he did was pay child maintenance. It was a decent amount (£1,277.50 a month), and I never asked for more.

He went on to have three more children with his now wife. I just got on with life until one day my son came out of school and asked, “I must have a dad, right?” I’d never told him about his father because I didn’t want him to feel abandoned.

When he started asking more questions, I texted his dad to say I was going to tell him the truth — I wasn’t going to raise him on a lie. I’d messaged over the years, even sent photos, and he’d read them on WhatsApp but never replied. So I didn’t expect a response this time either.

Surprisingly, he replied and said maybe it was time to meet. This was when my son was six (he’s now nearly nine). In the last three years, he’s probably met him in person about 10 times. He calls roughly once every 10 days, which I think is poor — it should’ve progressed a lot more by now.

Anyway, to the point. I recently logged into my Child Maintenance account after receiving an unusual notification. It showed his salary: £720,000 a year.

I’ve always been paid £1,277.50 a month because that’s what CMS caps it at. He could earn £1 million a week and I’d still receive that same amount — you have to go to court for any increase.

Would he be able to afford more? Absolutely. I know it’s a decent amount, but he only pays it because that’s the legal minimum CMS tells him to.

I’m self-employed and work part-time so my son can do after-school activities — he’s football mad and trains/plays four times a week. I’m essentially raising him alone; my dad moved 40 miles away, and I have no relationship with my mum. I rarely get a break, but that’s been the reality since the start.

I’ve never asked for an increase, but life is much more expensive now. £1,277 doesn’t go as far as it did six years ago, and £720,000 a year is a huge income.

To put it into perspective — CMS only calculates maintenance on a maximum salary of £156,000 a year. My ex earns over four times that, but I still only get the amount they’d set for £156k — just over 2% of his actual income. Unless I go to court for a “top-up order”, that’s all I’ll ever get.

AIBU to ask for more?

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FrippEnos · 13/08/2025 20:34

I was about to post similar to @Lamplight101 your ex must be 30 - 35 years old so his earning potential will be dropping soon. If that is the case you may find the the amount that you already get will drop.

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Barney16 · 13/08/2025 20:36

Lamplight101 · 13/08/2025 20:31

If he plays sport for a living and had a child 8 years I imagine that he might be at or nearing the end of his prime playing years. You may subsequently find the amount starts to fall quite substantially now. With this in mind, the idea of getting some sort of capital sum into a trust fund/wider form of savings now seems a very prudent idea as unlike those in the financial services industry etc it may not be sustainable plus the ever risk of injury etc. I would get what you can now locked into savings. Make hay while the sun shines.

This. Footballers, I'm presuming obviously, don't play for big money forever.

JHound · 13/08/2025 20:36

You can ask but he will most likely say no.

Having a limit may seem unfair but I guess it’s a way of ensuring a resident parent is not living off their ex. There should be cost of living / inflation increases.

Pashpash24 · 13/08/2025 20:36

FrippEnos · 13/08/2025 20:34

I was about to post similar to @Lamplight101 your ex must be 30 - 35 years old so his earning potential will be dropping soon. If that is the case you may find the the amount that you already get will drop.

Yeah I completely get that and again it’s another reason why I’ve not asked as I just presumed his earnings would be getting lower and lower. I was just shocked to see that last years salary was what it was. I didn’t really expect it to be so high.

OP posts:
AllyDally · 13/08/2025 20:37

Pashpash24 · 13/08/2025 20:28

If that was the case, I would have done it years ago wouldn’t I. Please keep your assumptions to yourself. You really don’t have any idea.

Most after school clubs my DC have done would not have been not possible if both DH and I had to commute back from work. I worked full time but started early and mostly from home/flexi hours so I could do it. DH has never been home before 6 so definitely football practice would be out the window. Tennis practice was 5-7, football 530 when they were under around 10 or 11. Only thing that was later was cricket.

At the end of the day if the dad hadnt walked out then the child could do the clubs so he shouldn't necessarily miss out.

I can see both sides but seriously £720k is shit loads of money and hes only contributing 1.2k a month to 1 of his kids, I bet the other 3 get all the luxuries!

Mauro711 · 13/08/2025 20:37

He doesn't sound like the most loving or engaged father but he also hasn't tried anything on re/ cms so it could be that he would be willing to up the maintenance a bit. If he's that rich then he is most likely spendng obscene amounts on his other 3 kids and probably wouldn't think it was anything out of the ordinary for you to ask for more. Your child is nearing the tween years and they do tend to cost more then so I would maybe approach it in way that you would like to be able to afford new football kit every now and again, to be able to send him on the more expensive school trips, start a savings account for his driver's license, uni fund etc. Maybe just ask if he would be willing to up the maintenance to, say £2K/ month or something so you have more of a buffer for life's extra's.

If he says no, then you can make a decision at that point if you want to go down the legal route.

northernballer · 13/08/2025 20:38

If he is earning £720k per year and you still receive tax payer top ups rather than him being forced to pay for his child then the system is in a worse state than I thought!

JHound · 13/08/2025 20:38

FrippEnos · 13/08/2025 20:34

I was about to post similar to @Lamplight101 your ex must be 30 - 35 years old so his earning potential will be dropping soon. If that is the case you may find the the amount that you already get will drop.

I think he likely has some more years good earnings. I am in my 40s and earn almost double what I was in my mid 30s.

disappointedconfused · 13/08/2025 20:39

so..in ten years you’ve worked “reception to year 3….” So 4 years max out of 10 and you now work part time as cleaner ….you are only able to do that as you get 1200 a month tax free income which is pretty much minimum wage…I get he earns a lot but he’s effectively subsidising your choice not to work full time …maybe ask him to set up a college/uni fund or something …going back for more CMS might seem grabby at this point?

Rosscameasdoody · 13/08/2025 20:40

ConfusedSloth · 13/08/2025 19:34

You’re very unlikely to be successful (because it doesn’t cost £2500 per month to raise one child, and it sounds like you’re in receipt of universal credit/child benefit for your DS on top) so you have no need for this for your DS and it would really be considered money for you personally.

Just because the order exists as a concept doesn’t mean you’ll get one or are eligible for one. You risk souring the relationship and costing yourself a bucket in legal fees.

So you don’t think his child by OP is deserving of the same privileges his other children will undoubtedly have ?

PamIsAVolleyballChamp · 13/08/2025 20:41

NoSoupForU · 13/08/2025 20:22

I think you're unreasonable, yes, because you aren't seeing it as the cost of raising your son, you're seeing it as something you should be entitled to in order to live the lifestyle you want to.

It doesn't cost more than £1277 a month (plus whatever your contribution would be) to raise a 9 year old.

You aren't unreasonable to ask but you are unreasonable to feel entitled.

This, is the extra money for you or your son? What does he need it for?
take him on more days out, and go on more holidays together
Sounds like you stuff. Do you think parents who work full time to provide for their children aren't providing a 'good quality of life'? Slightly judgy!

tripleginandtonic · 13/08/2025 20:42

If he's a championship footballer he might well pay more to enable his son to play too. Maybe ask him for support with that. In retrospect you'd have done better by your son to allow his dad's gf to see him from the off, they might have some kind of relationship now.

Pashpash24 · 13/08/2025 20:43

HopscotchBanana · 13/08/2025 20:29

Yeah yeah...

So what time is the "evening" football practice then.

Because that's the third time you've pretended not to hear the question.

Why are you taking such an angry tone?

“Because that's the third time you've pretended not to hear the question.”

I’m sorry i didn’t seen it before the post has a million comments.

So his current schedule after school is:

Monday - football development at an academy at 5:45pm
Tuesday - swimming lessons at 4:30pm
Wednesday - off
Thursday - Football training for his team he plays for at 6pm
Friday- football development again at 4:30pm
Satursay - off
Sunday - Football game for his team

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babyproblems · 13/08/2025 20:44

Nomdemare · 13/08/2025 19:23

I’d be interested in finding out if his other children are being privately educated and whether he’d fund that instead of paying more via CM

I thought this too…

FortheloveofCheesus · 13/08/2025 20:45

He is unlikely to want to pay cash that will improve your lifestyle

I would ask him politely if he'd consider funding:

  • school fees
  • sports training fees or music lessons
  • regular savings into a junior ISA in DS name

All on the basis he pays it directly for DS rather than giving you cash you use as you wish. Appeal to the fact that he has 3 other DC and DS deserves the privileges his brothers and sisters likely get.

Rituelec · 13/08/2025 20:46

CircuitMaze · 13/08/2025 19:27

You can ask him but that’s a substantial amount of money per month for one child. Many a person on here is barely getting £25/week if that per child, and while that’s nothing to do with your situation sometimes some perspective is needed.

I get £15 a week for 3 kids. Not each 😆

OhCalmTheFuckDownMargaret · 13/08/2025 20:47

So every month, exactly £1,277.50 is being spent on your son? Because that’s what this is about, the money is solely to be spent on your son. Don’t make the mistake a previous poster made of finding out how much he earned and getting greedy. Remember this isn’t maintenance to support you. It’s just for your son and if you’re spending £1,277.50 on him every month then he’s having quite a comfortable life really.

Rosscameasdoody · 13/08/2025 20:49

tripleginandtonic · 13/08/2025 20:42

If he's a championship footballer he might well pay more to enable his son to play too. Maybe ask him for support with that. In retrospect you'd have done better by your son to allow his dad's gf to see him from the off, they might have some kind of relationship now.

I love how hypocritical MN is. How many threads do we see ripping women to shreds for introducing their children to new partners too soon. Yet it’s fine for a man to do it ?

Pashpash24 · 13/08/2025 20:49

PamIsAVolleyballChamp · 13/08/2025 20:41

This, is the extra money for you or your son? What does he need it for?
take him on more days out, and go on more holidays together
Sounds like you stuff. Do you think parents who work full time to provide for their children aren't providing a 'good quality of life'? Slightly judgy!

Look I completely get that. It might seem like that’s for me. But he’s never ever taking him anywhere other than an arcade. He’s been in his life for three years now and he’s never even had him overnight. So yeah if he paid more it would all go on making my son’s life better/ more enjoyable in anyway I could. If he took him away on the holidays his other children get to go on then I’d absolutely love that. But he doesn’t. He’s never taken him anywhere. My sons got a lovely savings account waiting for him when he’s older and when the money does eventually stop I know regardless of whether his dads still in the picture I can help him out with whatever he needs. I completely understand people might think I’m being greedy but honestly I’m his mum and I adore him and if I could do anymore for him I would .

OP posts:
Rosscameasdoody · 13/08/2025 20:49

FortheloveofCheesus · 13/08/2025 20:45

He is unlikely to want to pay cash that will improve your lifestyle

I would ask him politely if he'd consider funding:

  • school fees
  • sports training fees or music lessons
  • regular savings into a junior ISA in DS name

All on the basis he pays it directly for DS rather than giving you cash you use as you wish. Appeal to the fact that he has 3 other DC and DS deserves the privileges his brothers and sisters likely get.

This.

FrippEnos · 13/08/2025 20:49

JHound · 13/08/2025 20:38

I think he likely has some more years good earnings. I am in my 40s and earn almost double what I was in my mid 30s.

It depends what sport he plays. if its football he has probably topped out his player earnings. If its bowling or curling then he has many more years but wouldn't earn that much.
After playing the jobs and earnings are significantly reduced.

From the OP's DS's schedule he is probably in the 11 to 14 yr old bracket, so the ex could be anywhere from early to late 30s.

OneNeatBlueOrca · 13/08/2025 20:51

You actually benefited from refusing to allow him to see your son with his girlfriend. I get it, you felt it was too soon. But if you hadn't done that, your son would probably be very much a part of his dad's, and his now, wife and half siblings lives.

If he hadnt walked off in a strop, your son would probably be spending fifty percent of his time with his dad and you would be entitled to absolutely nothing because your son lived with him equal amounts of time.

That is quite a huge sum of money to have been getting all this time. It doesn't cost that much per month to raise one child. I'd watch rocking the boat too much and I'd look into increasing your working hours if youre struggling for money.

Florencesndzebedee · 13/08/2025 20:51

Don’t know why people are being so snippy with you. Definitely try to discuss setting up an ISA or savings account that he can contribute towards for your son.

JHound · 13/08/2025 20:52

FrippEnos · 13/08/2025 20:49

It depends what sport he plays. if its football he has probably topped out his player earnings. If its bowling or curling then he has many more years but wouldn't earn that much.
After playing the jobs and earnings are significantly reduced.

From the OP's DS's schedule he is probably in the 11 to 14 yr old bracket, so the ex could be anywhere from early to late 30s.

Where did she say her ex’s job is as an athlete?