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AIBU to think my ex should pay more child maintenance when he earns £720k a year?

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Pashpash24 · 13/08/2025 19:14

I’ll try to keep this as short as possible while giving some back story.

I was with my ex-partner for four years. We had a son together, but he walked out before he was born. He saw him a few times as a newborn, but I had asked that he didn’t bring his new partner. My son was six weeks old when he turned up at my door with her, even though I’d said it was too soon.

He took me to court saying she should be allowed to meet him. The court agreed it was too soon and suggested maybe when the baby was older.

Because of that, he told me he would never see his son again. I was devastated and said fine, she can meet him, because I didn’t want him to walk away. But he still refused and never saw him again.

For six years, he had no contact — no visits, no messages, nothing. The only thing he did was pay child maintenance. It was a decent amount (£1,277.50 a month), and I never asked for more.

He went on to have three more children with his now wife. I just got on with life until one day my son came out of school and asked, “I must have a dad, right?” I’d never told him about his father because I didn’t want him to feel abandoned.

When he started asking more questions, I texted his dad to say I was going to tell him the truth — I wasn’t going to raise him on a lie. I’d messaged over the years, even sent photos, and he’d read them on WhatsApp but never replied. So I didn’t expect a response this time either.

Surprisingly, he replied and said maybe it was time to meet. This was when my son was six (he’s now nearly nine). In the last three years, he’s probably met him in person about 10 times. He calls roughly once every 10 days, which I think is poor — it should’ve progressed a lot more by now.

Anyway, to the point. I recently logged into my Child Maintenance account after receiving an unusual notification. It showed his salary: £720,000 a year.

I’ve always been paid £1,277.50 a month because that’s what CMS caps it at. He could earn £1 million a week and I’d still receive that same amount — you have to go to court for any increase.

Would he be able to afford more? Absolutely. I know it’s a decent amount, but he only pays it because that’s the legal minimum CMS tells him to.

I’m self-employed and work part-time so my son can do after-school activities — he’s football mad and trains/plays four times a week. I’m essentially raising him alone; my dad moved 40 miles away, and I have no relationship with my mum. I rarely get a break, but that’s been the reality since the start.

I’ve never asked for an increase, but life is much more expensive now. £1,277 doesn’t go as far as it did six years ago, and £720,000 a year is a huge income.

To put it into perspective — CMS only calculates maintenance on a maximum salary of £156,000 a year. My ex earns over four times that, but I still only get the amount they’d set for £156k — just over 2% of his actual income. Unless I go to court for a “top-up order”, that’s all I’ll ever get.

AIBU to ask for more?

OP posts:
OneNeatBlueOrca · 15/08/2025 15:56

Allisnotlost1 · 15/08/2025 15:48

You’re just making things up aren’t you? You’ve consistently claimed things that aren’t true and you just keep going. It’s actually quite funny, you remind of someone I used to work with. Could never get anything done because she spent the whole time giving her opinion on things that hadn’t even happened. Great way to while away an hour but not someone to take seriously. Turned out she was addicted to co-codamol. She got fired in the end. Quite sad.

Obviously you can wildly speculate about things but the facts are written down.

The father wasn’t married to the new woman when the baby was six weeks old, and it’s entirely reasonable for a mother to say she doesn’t want a person she doesn’t know fully involved in her six week old baby’s life. Would you have let your six week old DC be looked after by a stranger because ‘they’re oblivious’?

Despite the court agreeing, the father threw his toys out the pram and then the OP capitulated and said let the woman be involved and the hapless father still didn’t stick around. He doesn’t so much seem like he didn’t want the child as he didn’t want to not get his own way.

The o p has changed her mind about how much rent she pays over this thread and also left out that she was potentially pregnant last november, and appeared disappointed she wasn't.

Where did this other potential baby come from? She kept quiet about that.

Is she with somebody or not? Should her ex be looking to give her more money. if she is and looking to get pregnant again to somebody else.

Allisnotlost1 · 15/08/2025 15:59

OneNeatBlueOrca · 15/08/2025 15:56

The o p has changed her mind about how much rent she pays over this thread and also left out that she was potentially pregnant last november, and appeared disappointed she wasn't.

Where did this other potential baby come from? She kept quiet about that.

Is she with somebody or not? Should her ex be looking to give her more money. if she is and looking to get pregnant again to somebody else.

I noticed the rent discrepancy. Not sure why that gives other posters a licence to make shit up though.

Why does she need to refer to every previous thread she’s created?

Are you really asking where babies come from?

And yes, the father of the existing child pays for his child even if new children are created. That’s what CMS is.

OneNeatBlueOrca · 15/08/2025 16:02

Allisnotlost1 · 15/08/2025 15:59

I noticed the rent discrepancy. Not sure why that gives other posters a licence to make shit up though.

Why does she need to refer to every previous thread she’s created?

Are you really asking where babies come from?

And yes, the father of the existing child pays for his child even if new children are created. That’s what CMS is.

Edited

It suggests a pattern of behavior to have children outside the confines of a stable relationship in which you at least live together.

It's absolutely relevant.

She's complaining she cant work because of her son and needs maintenance and benefits over an above what she gets and yet she's trying to do it again.

Newnamesameme · 15/08/2025 16:21

The posts on this thread are absolutely wild. From stalking op's previous posts to inventing scenarios... it reeks of misogyny. FYI intercourse whether with protection or not comes with a risk of pregnancy. Biologically women can of course to choose to continue men don't have the choice. So if they don't want to provide for potential children it's simple no sex at all.

Allisnotlost1 · 15/08/2025 16:28

OneNeatBlueOrca · 15/08/2025 16:02

It suggests a pattern of behavior to have children outside the confines of a stable relationship in which you at least live together.

It's absolutely relevant.

She's complaining she cant work because of her son and needs maintenance and benefits over an above what she gets and yet she's trying to do it again.

How do you know they don’t live together? And how do you know OP didn’t live with the previous partner? You don’t, you’ve convinced yourself of that. Just like you convinced yourself that she wasn’t in a relationship with him - a friend with benefits you said, but that was not true.

She wasn’t complaining about anything, and the previous thread was quite clear that she wasn’t ‘trying’ to get pregnant. But even if she was, why does that negate the need to care for her existing child?

And a reminder, he is currently sacrificing less than 0.2% of his income for his nine year old. Making that up to even 0.4% would make no difference to him.

familylawyer01392 · 15/08/2025 16:36

Pashpash24 · 13/08/2025 19:14

I’ll try to keep this as short as possible while giving some back story.

I was with my ex-partner for four years. We had a son together, but he walked out before he was born. He saw him a few times as a newborn, but I had asked that he didn’t bring his new partner. My son was six weeks old when he turned up at my door with her, even though I’d said it was too soon.

He took me to court saying she should be allowed to meet him. The court agreed it was too soon and suggested maybe when the baby was older.

Because of that, he told me he would never see his son again. I was devastated and said fine, she can meet him, because I didn’t want him to walk away. But he still refused and never saw him again.

For six years, he had no contact — no visits, no messages, nothing. The only thing he did was pay child maintenance. It was a decent amount (£1,277.50 a month), and I never asked for more.

He went on to have three more children with his now wife. I just got on with life until one day my son came out of school and asked, “I must have a dad, right?” I’d never told him about his father because I didn’t want him to feel abandoned.

When he started asking more questions, I texted his dad to say I was going to tell him the truth — I wasn’t going to raise him on a lie. I’d messaged over the years, even sent photos, and he’d read them on WhatsApp but never replied. So I didn’t expect a response this time either.

Surprisingly, he replied and said maybe it was time to meet. This was when my son was six (he’s now nearly nine). In the last three years, he’s probably met him in person about 10 times. He calls roughly once every 10 days, which I think is poor — it should’ve progressed a lot more by now.

Anyway, to the point. I recently logged into my Child Maintenance account after receiving an unusual notification. It showed his salary: £720,000 a year.

I’ve always been paid £1,277.50 a month because that’s what CMS caps it at. He could earn £1 million a week and I’d still receive that same amount — you have to go to court for any increase.

Would he be able to afford more? Absolutely. I know it’s a decent amount, but he only pays it because that’s the legal minimum CMS tells him to.

I’m self-employed and work part-time so my son can do after-school activities — he’s football mad and trains/plays four times a week. I’m essentially raising him alone; my dad moved 40 miles away, and I have no relationship with my mum. I rarely get a break, but that’s been the reality since the start.

I’ve never asked for an increase, but life is much more expensive now. £1,277 doesn’t go as far as it did six years ago, and £720,000 a year is a huge income.

To put it into perspective — CMS only calculates maintenance on a maximum salary of £156,000 a year. My ex earns over four times that, but I still only get the amount they’d set for £156k — just over 2% of his actual income. Unless I go to court for a “top-up order”, that’s all I’ll ever get.

AIBU to ask for more?

yes you should definitely apply for a top up order.

familylawyer01392 · 15/08/2025 16:40

I find it so so funny how many people on this website have the mentality 'well I coped on X money with X children so you should be able to !!!!'

It is not the 'poor me' olympics. OP hasn't said she cannot get by. She is asking whether she should be seeking more. Put simply, yes. That is why Schedule 1 of the Children Act exists.

£720,000 is an incredibly high salary. Why should someone earning that much only pay as much child maintenance as someone who is earning £156,000 (4.5x less than OPs ex) is paying?

Whyjustwhy83 · 15/08/2025 17:41

OneNeatBlueOrca · 15/08/2025 14:56

No idea about that one. But, it does suggest she makes a habit of this. Getting pregnant without being in an established relationship.

Who was going to pay for that child if she had been pregnant given that she only wants to work part-time time.

Children aren't a lifestyle choice for benefits and maintenance for someone else to pay for.

Edited

Haha a habit she has 1 child( a habit isn't doing something once lol)

HopscotchBanana · 15/08/2025 18:34

How do you know they don’t live together? And how do you know OP didn’t live with the previous partner? You don’t, you’ve convinced yourself of that.

It's called using context. When she says (one of three) rent figures she was paying when the child was born. She wouldn't have been the sole payer of the rent in a tiny house, unless it was just her there.

Just like you convinced yourself that she wasn’t in a relationship with him - a friend with benefits you said

I think rather OP has convinced herself she was in one. It doesn't take much to work out the most likely scenario. Not the only possibility, no. But definitely the most likely, given the updates as well

but that was not true.

Says who? Looks even more likely now we know about the other pregnancy.

It suggests a pattern of behavior to have children outside the confines of a stable relationship in which you at least live together.

It's absolutely relevant.

She's complaining she cant work because of her son and needs maintenance and benefits over an above what she gets and yet she's trying to do it again.

Bingo.

Allisnotlost1 · 15/08/2025 20:08

HopscotchBanana · 15/08/2025 18:34

How do you know they don’t live together? And how do you know OP didn’t live with the previous partner? You don’t, you’ve convinced yourself of that.

It's called using context. When she says (one of three) rent figures she was paying when the child was born. She wouldn't have been the sole payer of the rent in a tiny house, unless it was just her there.

Just like you convinced yourself that she wasn’t in a relationship with him - a friend with benefits you said

I think rather OP has convinced herself she was in one. It doesn't take much to work out the most likely scenario. Not the only possibility, no. But definitely the most likely, given the updates as well

but that was not true.

Says who? Looks even more likely now we know about the other pregnancy.

It suggests a pattern of behavior to have children outside the confines of a stable relationship in which you at least live together.

It's absolutely relevant.

She's complaining she cant work because of her son and needs maintenance and benefits over an above what she gets and yet she's trying to do it again.

Bingo.

You seem honestly nuts. Good luck to you. 👍

FitAt50 · 15/08/2025 20:22

Do you spend the whole £1277 a month on your child? I would petition that any increase should be put in a trust fund for your son for when he reaches 21.

Hettiee · 15/08/2025 20:23

Ironically, if the CMS didn't have the cap they do, then I doubt anyone on here would bat an eyelid over the amount OP would get - as it would be a proportion of his salary and 'just one of those things'.

But people really don't like to rock the boat, they don't like the limits - however those are reached - to be challenged and so we end up with this restrictive mentality where people are outraged someone might be getting something 'extra' in some way.

Rosscameasdoody · 15/08/2025 20:55

FitAt50 · 15/08/2025 20:22

Do you spend the whole £1277 a month on your child? I would petition that any increase should be put in a trust fund for your son for when he reaches 21.

Why ? Do you not think that much of the monthly payment is spent keeping a roof over his head, food in his stomach, clothes on his back, not to mention the household bills that keep him from being thrown out on the street if they’re not paid ?

Rosscameasdoody · 15/08/2025 20:57

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 15/08/2025 13:05

I think a lot of posters are getting sidetracked. Fundamentally do we think it's OK that one parent pays most of their income on their child or towards their child (eg in housing, or a reduction in salary to keep a job with flexible hours) while the other parent pays less than 5% of their salary towards their child, meaning that their shared child has a significantly lower standard of living than:

  • They would have had, if their parents hadn't split
  • Their half siblings have
When it could relatively easily be changed by the non resident parent, without any real impact to them or their new family

I personally don't think this is ok, and its pretty low to be suggesting the OP is greedy for wanting better for her son. And when it's the other way around, and posters are talking about their partner paying maintenance to their ex, everyone always says good parents pay more than the absolute minimum and pay their share of extras.

This. Absolutely.

Rosscameasdoody · 15/08/2025 21:00

HopscotchBanana · 15/08/2025 09:22

I don’t get why posters think he didn’t want the baby. They were together for four years - not as though it was a one night stand.

OP says they were together for 4yrs. On the basis they didn't even live together after that amount of time, you have to wonder if he thought they were together in any real form.

He lived with, married and had multiple children with someone in a similar time span, so it's not like we're dealing with a commitment phobe.

As I said, I wonder what his summation of interactions over the 4yrs with OP would be? A relationship? Someone he slept with on and off? Friends with benefits? My sister's friend was obsessed with a chap locally and they would hook up most weekends, and this probably went on for 3 or 4 years. He was never properly interested in her and she turned a blind eye to any rumblings that he was dating other people too. But she was infatuated and always available for him. She didn't have eyes for anyone else. He met his now fiancé and had moved her into his within about 5 months. The friend was distraught how "her man" could do that to her. If you ask her, she will tell you they were in a relationship. It was to her.

From the way OP describes things and the very fact that someone who has no issue with settling down, progressed nothing with OP for 4 years, it points to it being a one sided perception of a relationship here too.

How do you know they didn’t live together. OP didn’t specify. Making it up as you go along ?

Rosscameasdoody · 15/08/2025 21:05

incognitomouse · 14/08/2025 15:02

I'd say he was paying a decent amount to be honest, no kid costs more than that a month, and if they do, you need to get a grip.

I don’t understand this. OP is feeding, clothing, providing a home and everything in it, household bills, entertainment, after school activities. £1277 out of a salary of £33,000 a month is measly and probably nowhere near what is spent on his other three kids.

Rosscameasdoody · 15/08/2025 21:07

HopscotchBanana · 15/08/2025 07:55

Lmao

"Because you aren't a faux victim after someone else's cash, you must be bitter about those that are"

What a crock of shit 😁. I also want a Bentley Bentayga, but we can't afford one until we've finished the house. I mean we could get one because fuck the consequences of debt and then blame anyone else that we've got no money, but then that would just make me "bitter and projecting". If only we could all fake not being able to work and pay for our own children because "there's a swimming class at 4.30pm"

Pointing out someone has simply got everything they asked for (a kid with no dad because she banked on that being the way to keep the dad attached to her, but turns out no) is now getting exactly what she signed up for. Making it dad's fault that her child was unwanted but she chose to have it because it's now biting her on the arse.

Maybe not such a brilliant idea to decide you're having a kid when the other parent doesn't want it, if you can't be accountable for your choice.

Deeply misogynistic. I feel so sorry for you.

Rosscameasdoody · 15/08/2025 21:16

HopscotchBanana · 15/08/2025 14:39

What OP called a 4yr relationship, I suspect he would call different. They didn't even live together. She was in a £550 a month rental. Which has increased to £950 a month rental or an £1100 a month rental as she's changed the figure within 2 posts...

I imagine the period of time since they first slept together and the last time they slept together was 4yrs, but they certainly weren't building a future or home together. 4 years is quite a time (apart from divorcees who are adamant they'll never live with anyone again, and single parents who don't want to move anyone in with their child) to go nowhere in a genuine relationship.

There are two examples in the last couple of pages about women who were sleeping with men they were infatuated with, and the men very clearly didn't think there was any relationship. It's what the women called it though.

Once more, how do you know they didn’t live together ? OP didn’t specify, but the fact that she said he ‘walked out’ suggests that they did. Here’s an alternative scenario for you. OP and her partner together four years. OP falls pregnant. Partner has an affair while she’s pregnant and walks out for the other woman. Probably well past the time when an abortion is an option for OP. Look at the time line - he leaves when she’s at an undisclosed stage of pregnancy and by the time she’s six weeks post partum he’s in a committed relationship with the woman he’s trying to force on OP and her child - which even the courts wouldn’t support. The fact that the maintenance was arranged via CMS suggests that he only wanted to pay the bare minimum and OP likely had to chase him for that. So it begs the question, why are you supporting him ?

Rosscameasdoody · 15/08/2025 21:21

Newnamesameme · 15/08/2025 09:43

You need to calm the fuck down. You are way too personal. This is someone's real life you are frothing at, go get a cup of tea or something

None of what this poster is saying is evident in anything OP has said - they are making it up as they go along to suit their own bitter narratives and I suspect are projecting.

Rosscameasdoody · 15/08/2025 21:28

OneNeatBlueOrca · 15/08/2025 11:01

I get it, of course.She was vulnerable and didn't want it thrown in her face that her ex never had a relationship with her but was quite happy to start a relationship with someone else.

Of course she shouldn't have had to have her in her home.

Any kind of compromise would be when the baby's older and you are able to take him out.He can see the girlfriend, but I don't want to see her.

it was a no, no no way, never and in that order. Then when he did go, she changed her mind and try to backtrack.

OP says she had a four year relationship with her ex. Nowhere in her posts has she said they didn’t live together, and the fact that she said he ‘walked out’ suggests they did.

The timeline also suggests that he could easily have been having an affair with this woman while OP was pregnant and again there is nothing in any of her posts to suggest he didn;t want the baby - the relationship could have broken down for any number of reasons, including him having an affair, and it could well have been beyond the time when abortion was an option.

All of this has been pointed out several times, but still you insist on inventing things to suit your narrative.

Thehobbit2013 · 15/08/2025 21:29

Wow the ex is clearing over £30k a month after tax and the amount of posters giving her shit for asking him to increase his contribution from £1700 to approx £3k. Yes I get that it’s more than most get but it it’s a drop in the ocean for the man. Even if she didn’t need it she could save it so her son could get a decent start in life which will be nothing compared with what his other three kids will likely get

Rosscameasdoody · 15/08/2025 21:29

HopscotchBanana · 15/08/2025 18:34

How do you know they don’t live together? And how do you know OP didn’t live with the previous partner? You don’t, you’ve convinced yourself of that.

It's called using context. When she says (one of three) rent figures she was paying when the child was born. She wouldn't have been the sole payer of the rent in a tiny house, unless it was just her there.

Just like you convinced yourself that she wasn’t in a relationship with him - a friend with benefits you said

I think rather OP has convinced herself she was in one. It doesn't take much to work out the most likely scenario. Not the only possibility, no. But definitely the most likely, given the updates as well

but that was not true.

Says who? Looks even more likely now we know about the other pregnancy.

It suggests a pattern of behavior to have children outside the confines of a stable relationship in which you at least live together.

It's absolutely relevant.

She's complaining she cant work because of her son and needs maintenance and benefits over an above what she gets and yet she's trying to do it again.

Bingo.

She doesn’t get benefits. Just childcare support. And she works.

SallyDraperGetInHere · 16/08/2025 00:40

It is truly baffling to me that there are so many posters in this thread that would argue with vehemence that it’s okay for a father of four children to treat his children inequitably. How people can argue that it is okay for him to provide for one of his children so much lesser than his other three is beyond me.

Crushed23 · 16/08/2025 00:56

Rosscameasdoody · 15/08/2025 21:29

She doesn’t get benefits. Just childcare support. And she works.

Edited

Why on earth wouldn’t she get child benefit? Didn’t they remove/increase the threshold recently too?

SonitarB · 16/08/2025 06:13

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