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to think supermarkets should open longer on Sundays?

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ThisPlumCrab · 13/08/2025 18:02

By late Sunday morning my local supermarket is like a rugby scrum with trolleys. The car park is jammed, people are queueing before they even get inside, and once you are in the aisles it feels like an obstacle course just to reach the milk. It is easily the busiest day of the week here, yet we still have the six hour Sunday trading limit.

Because of Sunday trading laws, the big shops in England and Wales can only open for six hours. In practice that means everyone piles in at the same time. Late morning is rammed, early afternoon is even worse, and by the afternoon the place looks like a plague of locusts has been through, with only artichokes and beetroot left.

In Scotland there are no Sunday trading laws for large shops, so they can open as long as they like, and life seems to carry on perfectly fine.

If supermarkets here could open longer, like on a normal day, people could spread out their shopping and the whole thing would be calmer. Families who spend Saturday at kids sports or activities, and workers who do shifts at the weekend, would have more choice than the current six hour window. Smaller express or local stores are open all day anyway, but they are pricier and do not stock everything, so you end up doing several little shops.

I know the main argument for the current rules is that Sundays should be for people to spend time with their families. But not everyone lives in a family setup, and many people, especially students, part timers, and those looking for extra income, actually prefer to work on Sundays. For some, it is the best day to pick up extra hours without clashing with other commitments.

I just do not see how the current system helps when Sundays are already the busiest.

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DrPrunesqualer · 14/08/2025 21:43

WeekendFreedom · 14/08/2025 21:37

What about if I work 11-5 and usually do my food shop at 10am?

We all have to adapt to availability

cardibach · 14/08/2025 21:45

DeoHelp · 13/08/2025 18:12

I need fresh groceries for the week so Sunday is the ideal day to do this - unfortunately I then have to basically dedicate half of my day to going to Sainsbury’s as the opening hours are so short and it’s so busy. Don’t have time on Monday due to work and I’m often too exhausted afterwards to do the big shop.

This makes no sense. The groceries are fresh for the week whichever day you do your shop - you’ll get fresh ones in after 7 days whether that’s Sunday or Wednesday or any other day.

jannier · 14/08/2025 22:01

Maverickess · 14/08/2025 19:02

Exactly...... Off to a restaurant or pub for Sunday lunch, a theme park, trampoline park, cinema, bowling...... where leisure and hospitality staff are working, on a Sunday.

And yes I knew I'd be working Sundays, Christmas, bank holidays when I took the job, it's just another day, it doesn't need to be protected, and most people who work Sunday will have their rota'd day off during the week, I do, so they're probably gaining there because anything you want to do during the week is usually quieter than weekends. I don't understand this whole thing about having to be silent until 10am on a Sunday either, if it's acceptable to make noise at 8am Monday morning then it should be on Sunday morning, those of us that have Mondays off have to deal with it, so those that have Sundays off can deal with it.

So if you started working weekdays that suited your family then we're told it's now Friday Saturday and Sunday but that's okay your off Monday to Thursday you would be happy to never see your school aged kids let alone if you don't have childcare

intrepidpanda · 14/08/2025 22:03

As everyone focuses on kids getting into uni. I heard on the radio this morning that they estimate that need 20k a year to sustain themselves and max maintenance grant is 10k so many are looking to retail jobs to sustain themselves.
Sunday trading is a big help in these situations.
Many would simply not be able to go to university if these jobs with 'unsociable ' hours didn't exist.

PennywisePoundFoolish · 14/08/2025 22:12

intrepidpanda · 14/08/2025 22:03

As everyone focuses on kids getting into uni. I heard on the radio this morning that they estimate that need 20k a year to sustain themselves and max maintenance grant is 10k so many are looking to retail jobs to sustain themselves.
Sunday trading is a big help in these situations.
Many would simply not be able to go to university if these jobs with 'unsociable ' hours didn't exist.

A lot of big stores have out of hours teams. I think Christmas Day is the only day when there's no staff on shift. I'll be working Boxing Day night.

My employer also offers student contracts, so those that are going to university come back to their "home" store during holidays.

DrPrunesqualer · 14/08/2025 22:33

intrepidpanda · 14/08/2025 22:03

As everyone focuses on kids getting into uni. I heard on the radio this morning that they estimate that need 20k a year to sustain themselves and max maintenance grant is 10k so many are looking to retail jobs to sustain themselves.
Sunday trading is a big help in these situations.
Many would simply not be able to go to university if these jobs with 'unsociable ' hours didn't exist.

It’s not exactly a reason to have Sunday trading

as an aside
If you’re writing this as you’re worried about your dc at Uni. I assure you I have three kids at Uni and they don’t need anything like £20k a year
If they want a holiday or want to buy lots of new clothes or feel the need for luxuries then yes. How long is a piece of string. If, however they live like students they don’t.
My knowledge is not just based on personal experience but research on averages.

AntiBullshit · 14/08/2025 22:49

we should go back to the 80s no shops open on Sunday, early closing for local shops one day a week and close at 7pm on Saturday.

StitchHappens · 14/08/2025 23:11

MrsSunshine2b · 14/08/2025 20:23

Everyone deserves time off but a Sunday is the most illogical day.

Most people have 2 days when they are not at work and one of those days, everything is shut or only open for short hours.

If the shops shut on a weekday, then retail staff would get the same number of days off and all of us office monkeys would get a bit longer to do all the jobs that need doing.

Maybe you should be arguing for everyone else to be working weekends so that they all get a week day off to do all that stuff instead then? I mean that's a far more logical solution surely, then transport, childcare, offices etc can all be open so it's fair for all... obviously (just like for shop workers) those 2 days off wouldn't be consecutive though.

the5thgoldengirl · 15/08/2025 00:29

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Jumpingthruhoops · 15/08/2025 01:56

I think everywhere should be open later on Sundays - it might be the only day that people have that week to run errands.

Sunday trading laws were put in place to 'observe the Sabbath' - but since we're openly not a Christian country any more, that all seems rather pointless.

WhiskySour83 · 15/08/2025 01:58

Where I live, nothing opens on Sundays at all and we survive. Let the staff have one day off in peace and spend Sunday doing other things.

Balloonhearts · 15/08/2025 02:06

xanthomelana · 14/08/2025 11:35

You can opt out of Sunday working if you don’t want to do it.

...No, you can't. You do it, or you don't have a job. It's in pretty much every contract I've ever had that Sunday working is required and if you don't like it, there's the door. Strange thing about bills is that they don't pay themselves so most of us effectively have no choice.

queenmeadhbh · 15/08/2025 05:53

Madisnttheword · 13/08/2025 18:07

We only get 5 hours on a Sunday in Northern Ireland
I don't mind it really as most of our big shops are open 24 hours Monday 8am to Saturday 10pm

I would love it though if they staggered where was open - so some open 10-3 rather than everywhere 1-6. It’s annoying not being able to shop on a Sunday morning but I never want to shop at 5 on a Sunday!

WeekendFreedom · 15/08/2025 07:06

DrPrunesqualer · 14/08/2025 21:43

We all have to adapt to availability

Exactly!! My point is not all hours will suit everyone, some people might not care about the lie in, some people want to be up early. The hours don’t need to change

WeekendFreedom · 15/08/2025 07:09

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Ok so get a lie in and a food shop what about those that are still working let’s say 9-6pm. They don’t get a lie in or a food shop. The hours don’t need to change to accommodate lie ins 🤦‍♀️ people just need to go the shop when they can, if it’s to busy on a Sunday they should pick a weekday. Your suggestion of moving hours also doesn’t help with the problem OP is talking about… how busy it is. People will just all go in later in the day so still busy

Oaktree1952 · 15/08/2025 07:56

I think it will change at some point and I think that’ll be sad. As a society we are becoming more work oriented and less family oriented. Our culture is now to work longer hours, any and every day a week. And shockingly our mental health is getting worse.

I think it’s sad that so many people are wanting to get rid of something else without thinking about the longer term implications. Loosing Sunday trading laws will change us, not in the short term but it’ll open the gates for other unforeseen changes.

I think people are against it because of their religious origins. In a world that has so many 24hour shopping, online shopping etc I don’t believe time is the actual issue. I think it’s sad that people are blinded by religious prejudices when the idea of promoting a rest day, family day ,chill out day, would do wonders for our mental health.

xanthomelana · 15/08/2025 08:00

Balloonhearts · 15/08/2025 02:06

...No, you can't. You do it, or you don't have a job. It's in pretty much every contract I've ever had that Sunday working is required and if you don't like it, there's the door. Strange thing about bills is that they don't pay themselves so most of us effectively have no choice.

Yes you can. You have to give 3 months notice to your employer to opt out and your employer should give you statutory notice of this right to opt out.

BlueyNeedsToFuckOff · 15/08/2025 08:01

For all the people who want to see everything closed, what do you expect people to do on a Sunday? Just sit around in their own homes? I don’t think many people would go for that - most people had enough during lockdown without having to replicate it once a week!

ThisPlumCrab · 15/08/2025 08:22

BlueyNeedsToFuckOff · 15/08/2025 08:01

For all the people who want to see everything closed, what do you expect people to do on a Sunday? Just sit around in their own homes? I don’t think many people would go for that - most people had enough during lockdown without having to replicate it once a week!

They want the shops closed but have no problem with going to other places on Sunday where staff are working such as leisure attractions, restaurants, cafes, pubs etc

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jannier · 15/08/2025 08:33

ThisPlumCrab · 15/08/2025 08:22

They want the shops closed but have no problem with going to other places on Sunday where staff are working such as leisure attractions, restaurants, cafes, pubs etc

Or how about a park, the woods, seeing family.

ThisPlumCrab · 15/08/2025 08:36

jannier · 15/08/2025 08:33

Or how about a park, the woods, seeing family.

As I said in my OP not everyone has families.

Not everyone has woods nearby. I have been to my local park thousands of times. It is not a great day out. I can walk wound it in 20 minutes.

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Imperativvv · 15/08/2025 08:39

Full closure on Sundays isn't realistic, but that doesn't mean OPs idea is either.

Seldom do people who want longer Sunday hours engage with the possibility that demand for a service doesn't create a supply of people to provide it. This thread is no exception.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 15/08/2025 08:43

It’s funny how none of the people complaining about Sunday opening ever seem to want to volunteer to work on a Sunday.

It reminds me of working the Boxing Day sales where customers would bang on about how we shouldn’t be made to work 🙄

dottiedodah · 15/08/2025 08:45

Surely the shops are open long enough as it is? In a working week there are late night shopping opportunities to order online etc .The people in Tesco may fancy a Sunday evening to relax!Even if they dont have a family!

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 15/08/2025 08:46

xanthomelana · 15/08/2025 08:00

Yes you can. You have to give 3 months notice to your employer to opt out and your employer should give you statutory notice of this right to opt out.

Sure, technically - but in reality you just won’t have a job anymore if you refuse.