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to think supermarkets should open longer on Sundays?

286 replies

ThisPlumCrab · 13/08/2025 18:02

By late Sunday morning my local supermarket is like a rugby scrum with trolleys. The car park is jammed, people are queueing before they even get inside, and once you are in the aisles it feels like an obstacle course just to reach the milk. It is easily the busiest day of the week here, yet we still have the six hour Sunday trading limit.

Because of Sunday trading laws, the big shops in England and Wales can only open for six hours. In practice that means everyone piles in at the same time. Late morning is rammed, early afternoon is even worse, and by the afternoon the place looks like a plague of locusts has been through, with only artichokes and beetroot left.

In Scotland there are no Sunday trading laws for large shops, so they can open as long as they like, and life seems to carry on perfectly fine.

If supermarkets here could open longer, like on a normal day, people could spread out their shopping and the whole thing would be calmer. Families who spend Saturday at kids sports or activities, and workers who do shifts at the weekend, would have more choice than the current six hour window. Smaller express or local stores are open all day anyway, but they are pricier and do not stock everything, so you end up doing several little shops.

I know the main argument for the current rules is that Sundays should be for people to spend time with their families. But not everyone lives in a family setup, and many people, especially students, part timers, and those looking for extra income, actually prefer to work on Sundays. For some, it is the best day to pick up extra hours without clashing with other commitments.

I just do not see how the current system helps when Sundays are already the busiest.

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youngestisapsycho · 14/08/2025 14:57

I do my weekly grocery shop mostly on a Sunday.
Sainsburys, hand held self scanner, in & out in an hour, can be busy but not rammed.

Netcurtainnelly · 14/08/2025 15:02

They were open for 8 weeks on Sundays when the Olympics were on for longer hours.

I wonder what sales were like?

StitchHappens · 14/08/2025 15:07

doodleschnoodle · 14/08/2025 10:17

I work Sundays by choice, works well for childcare too. No one seems to be worried for me Sad

Surely this would create more jobs and that is a good thing? Sundays are actually good days to work for some people as it can be a day less paid childcare needed if the other parent is at home. Plenty of people work Sundays in lots of different roles, so not sure why supermarkets are any different to all the other places people work.

I’m in Scotland so it’s normal here anyway. 24-hour supermarkets are open truly 24 hours every day.

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It won't create more jobs. They will spread the staff thinner.
There's not usually extra pay for Sundays any more and in many cases the staff that work weekends don't do it because they want to, they do it because they have to. Contracts with days and times aren't given now, it's 'to suit the needs of the business'. So i can take a job mon/tues/wed 9-3 and have my hours changed to fri/sat/sun 12-6. If I don't like it I can hand my notice in, and they will employ someone else..
If this change is really necessary (it's not) then there would need to be childcare provision evenings and weekends too. It really would only make conditions for workers (and service for customers) worse.

angelos02 · 14/08/2025 15:22

I'm sure this can't be true but apparently staff don't even get double-time working in shops on Sundays. When I was a student, I loved working Sundays as it was double-time. Working Christmas day/Boxing day/New Years day in a pub was triple time. As it should be.

BCBird · 14/08/2025 15:38

Popped in.supermarket the other Sunday, thinking it would be quiet- was heaving. Cashier said it one of the busiest times. Voted YABU as staff need time off. I remember when they weren't open on Sundays.

Snorlaxo · 14/08/2025 15:47

Closing on a Sunday would be performative.

The delivery drivers from the depots, store cleaners and night shift would work as usual.
The online and on demand shoppers and delivery drivers would also work as usual if stores would be allowed to work as a dark store.

Supermarket workers are rarely on full time contracts. That works for some people like students but no Sunday work would lead to people have minimum hours cut and having to find second jobs at a time where’s there’s few vacancies.

beachwalkx · 14/08/2025 16:05

BCBird · 14/08/2025 15:38

Popped in.supermarket the other Sunday, thinking it would be quiet- was heaving. Cashier said it one of the busiest times. Voted YABU as staff need time off. I remember when they weren't open on Sundays.

They’re always heaving by 10.10am
I am usually at the till by 9.55am and everyone piles in then
the 9.30 club is much more relaxed Grin (same people every week, we always have a chat)

ThisPlumCrab · 14/08/2025 16:09

To those calling for shops to be closed on Sundays I am sure you have been somewhere on a Sunday that involved staff working.

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Simonjt · 14/08/2025 16:17

FluffyWabbit · 14/08/2025 09:51

I wish shops would be closed all of Sunday.

We need to get back to a place where family time means something and that includes making this available for people who have to currently work outside of regular hours.

So surely in that case you would only want hospitals, police stations and fire stations to be open? Or would you also want cinemas, cafes, parks, national trust properties to be open?

FluffyWabbit · 14/08/2025 16:18

Simonjt · 14/08/2025 16:17

So surely in that case you would only want hospitals, police stations and fire stations to be open? Or would you also want cinemas, cafes, parks, national trust properties to be open?

No entertainment or retail. Emergency services are not hobbies.

Gingercar · 14/08/2025 16:32

Periperi2025 · 14/08/2025 12:40

But in your first post your said "but i can't tell you how many xmas, weddings, party's i missed"

So which is it?

You can adjust scheduling when it is just you and your immediate family, but for the majority of society weddings, and parties happen on weekends and schools operate a Mon-Fri week, with strict absence policies. So things absolutely need to be done on set days.

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But I wasn’t grumbling. It was just a part and parcel that I had to miss things because I had to work weekends. As I said, I knew working weekends was part of the job when I accepted it, which I did happily. If I’m quite prepared to work weekends why does it bother other people?!

BlueyNeedsToFuckOff · 14/08/2025 16:59

FluffyWabbit · 14/08/2025 16:18

No entertainment or retail. Emergency services are not hobbies.

So what would your approved Sunday activities be with everything closed?

FluffyWabbit · 14/08/2025 17:00

BlueyNeedsToFuckOff · 14/08/2025 16:59

So what would your approved Sunday activities be with everything closed?

Why do you care so much about my opinion on closing retail? Do you think I'm going to enact a law that might affect you? Is it ok to have an opinion without giving a detailed, bullet pointed essay for your approval?

Sharptonguedwoman · 14/08/2025 17:02

Not really. They are open long hours every other day and have on line ordering etc.

SprayWhiteDung · 14/08/2025 17:26

cornflourblue · 14/08/2025 14:46

I'm in Scotland and we all seem to survive with Sunday supermarket opening.

For those who say keep supermarkets closed entirely on a sunday to allow workers time with their families, where do you stop? What about transport (bus drivers, airport staff?), what about soft plays, pubs and cafes, outdoor activity providers? Theatres and cinemas? Football grounds? Businesses that are open at weekends to cater for families who want to spend time together?

What about families who survive financially by one parent working during the week, and the other at weekends, as they have no childcare?

I'm not necessarily suggesting that it made perfect sense; but I suppose the thinking for the law for England and Wales might have been that they wanted to fully enable leisure and family activities on a Sunday, but they didn't regard food and other mundane shopping as such an activity.

I suppose, whether it was the intention or not, you could argue that they have actually promoted family activities and time focused on children for Sundays, by forcing parents to get the food in during the week or in a limited time on Sunday if pushed, and thus specifically freeing up time on a specific day for family activities!

jannier · 14/08/2025 17:27

angelos02 · 14/08/2025 15:22

I'm sure this can't be true but apparently staff don't even get double-time working in shops on Sundays. When I was a student, I loved working Sundays as it was double-time. Working Christmas day/Boxing day/New Years day in a pub was triple time. As it should be.

No they don't anymore stopped a long time ago

AliciaLeeming · 14/08/2025 17:29

Quite agree with the OP

It's a disgrace that the Bishops are allowed to influence the laws here. They get preferential treatment which is not justifiable now (if it ever was)

samplesalequeen · 14/08/2025 17:31

IMissSparkling · 13/08/2025 18:17

I live in Scotland and often go to the supermarket on a Sunday evening. I find it so bizarre that England, with a bigger population, still has these antiquated Sunday trading laws.

Same! I love a mooch around my local ENORMOUS Sainos at 8pm on a Sunday

Livpool · 14/08/2025 18:23

We are close by a couple of big supermarkets and none of them are particularly busy on a Sunday - and I have been in at various times. It is a lot more busy on Friday early evening or Saturday afternoon.

I cannot fathom why shopping for vegetables and fruits on a Sunday takes hours, as per a PP

Maverickess · 14/08/2025 19:02

ThisPlumCrab · 14/08/2025 16:09

To those calling for shops to be closed on Sundays I am sure you have been somewhere on a Sunday that involved staff working.

Exactly...... Off to a restaurant or pub for Sunday lunch, a theme park, trampoline park, cinema, bowling...... where leisure and hospitality staff are working, on a Sunday.

And yes I knew I'd be working Sundays, Christmas, bank holidays when I took the job, it's just another day, it doesn't need to be protected, and most people who work Sunday will have their rota'd day off during the week, I do, so they're probably gaining there because anything you want to do during the week is usually quieter than weekends. I don't understand this whole thing about having to be silent until 10am on a Sunday either, if it's acceptable to make noise at 8am Monday morning then it should be on Sunday morning, those of us that have Mondays off have to deal with it, so those that have Sundays off can deal with it.

DrPrunesqualer · 14/08/2025 19:06

It’s all about being organised. There are plenty of hours in a week to shop. Or get it delivered if you’re strapped for time

Employees feel compelled to work the hours they are given, including those on Sundays. I think shops are open for long enough

ThisPlumCrab · 14/08/2025 19:40

DrPrunesqualer · 14/08/2025 19:06

It’s all about being organised. There are plenty of hours in a week to shop. Or get it delivered if you’re strapped for time

Employees feel compelled to work the hours they are given, including those on Sundays. I think shops are open for long enough

What about all the other staff working in hospitality and leisure on a Sunday? Are you organised so you never go anywhere that involves staff working on a Sunday?

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DrPrunesqualer · 14/08/2025 19:42

ThisPlumCrab · 14/08/2025 19:40

What about all the other staff working in hospitality and leisure on a Sunday? Are you organised so you never go anywhere that involves staff working on a Sunday?

You can’t get Thorpe park delivered though can you

BlueyNeedsToFuckOff · 14/08/2025 19:42

FluffyWabbit · 14/08/2025 17:00

Why do you care so much about my opinion on closing retail? Do you think I'm going to enact a law that might affect you? Is it ok to have an opinion without giving a detailed, bullet pointed essay for your approval?

I don’t care. I was just curious because you’ve said that all entertainment and retail should be closed - so no going to a NT place on a Sunday, or the cinema, or for a walk along the beach getting an ice-cream from the ice-cream van. No going out for Sunday lunch with the family, or sitting in a pub garden with friends.

Sounds an incredibly boring Sunday and I don’t think most people would go for it, that’s all.

ThisPlumCrab · 14/08/2025 19:44

DrPrunesqualer · 14/08/2025 19:42

You can’t get Thorpe park delivered though can you

No but you can avoid going on a Sunday. They are open for long enough hours.

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