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to think supermarkets should open longer on Sundays?

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ThisPlumCrab · 13/08/2025 18:02

By late Sunday morning my local supermarket is like a rugby scrum with trolleys. The car park is jammed, people are queueing before they even get inside, and once you are in the aisles it feels like an obstacle course just to reach the milk. It is easily the busiest day of the week here, yet we still have the six hour Sunday trading limit.

Because of Sunday trading laws, the big shops in England and Wales can only open for six hours. In practice that means everyone piles in at the same time. Late morning is rammed, early afternoon is even worse, and by the afternoon the place looks like a plague of locusts has been through, with only artichokes and beetroot left.

In Scotland there are no Sunday trading laws for large shops, so they can open as long as they like, and life seems to carry on perfectly fine.

If supermarkets here could open longer, like on a normal day, people could spread out their shopping and the whole thing would be calmer. Families who spend Saturday at kids sports or activities, and workers who do shifts at the weekend, would have more choice than the current six hour window. Smaller express or local stores are open all day anyway, but they are pricier and do not stock everything, so you end up doing several little shops.

I know the main argument for the current rules is that Sundays should be for people to spend time with their families. But not everyone lives in a family setup, and many people, especially students, part timers, and those looking for extra income, actually prefer to work on Sundays. For some, it is the best day to pick up extra hours without clashing with other commitments.

I just do not see how the current system helps when Sundays are already the busiest.

OP posts:
jannier · 15/08/2025 17:01

BlueyNeedsToFuckOff · 15/08/2025 09:59

Barely survived in some cases.

Reading is boring. And many hobbies require people to be working to facilitate that hobby,

Shopping as entertainment requires you to be working too. Have you heard the adage that boardom is the bedrock of creativity? Parents are great models for their children life's boating unless I'm accumulating possessions every opportunity is pretty shallow.

WeekendFreedom · 15/08/2025 17:41

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No it’s not you, the supermarkets can’t win, they will never please everyone with Sunday hours

jannier · 15/08/2025 18:09

StitchHappens · 15/08/2025 14:48

Not if everyone worked one weekend day it wouldn't. Then everyone would have a day in the week to do shopping etc. Maybe you should encourage your employer to consider opening Saturdays and Sundays so you could have that option?

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And sod family life for people with school aged kids.

Nanny0gg · 15/08/2025 18:10

Badbadbunny · 14/08/2025 09:59

Why only shops? Surely you'd want everything to be closed so everyone can have this utopian family Sunday, so no cafes, no restaurants, no attractions, no museums, no theme parks, no parks/gardens, etc? How about no call centres so you won't be able to phone your bank or utility firm? Presumably no online shopping deliveries either as the delivery drivers also deserve Sunday's off. But that also means empty shelves in the shops on Monday morning if the warehouse staff and delivery staff in the major distribution centres are off on Sundays! You've really not thought it through! Loads of people work on Sundays, in fact shop workers are probably a small minority!

That's exactly how it was in the 1950s/early 60s

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 15/08/2025 18:16

jannier · 15/08/2025 18:09

And sod family life for people with school aged kids.

...and what about family life for retail workers with school aged kids? Or do they not matter?

cardibach · 15/08/2025 18:16

BlueyNeedsToFuckOff · 15/08/2025 10:14

No, I mean I find it boring and find people who insist on it as a virtue sanctimonious.

What exactly is wrong with going to pubs, cafes, restaurants, NT places, cinemas, farm parks etc on a Sunday (as you currently can). Why should we be limited to boring walks and boring reading just because some people have a weird fetish for a 1950s idyll that never existed in practice?

As I said. You find it boring. It is a virtue though to be well informed which reading helps. Nothing sanctimonious about that. And people who enjoy reading aren’t sanctimonious either - I’d sound daft saying people who say I should watch football are sanctimonious.

StitchHappens · 15/08/2025 18:21

jannier · 15/08/2025 18:09

And sod family life for people with school aged kids.

So who should be allowed a family life?
I'm not sure where you stand on the Sunday hours being extended?
I am absolutely against increasing sunday hours, probably because I have to work them.
My point is to those arguing for them to be completely disregarded, that surely they should be willing to do the same (ie give up a weekend day for a week day) rather than ask that the minority who already have to give up at least half of their weekend having to lose it all for their convenience.
ETA this is probably where we will end up anyway as more and more places open on Saturdays, the natural next step is for them to open Sundays, so maybe people should be careful what they wish for. If retail should be open for their convenience then surely so should offices, doctors etc for the convenience of others...

Gamerlady · 15/08/2025 18:26

If you actually worked in retail you wouldn't be saying that. We work long enough hours as it is , and family time is very precious. If it was left to me Sundays would stay closed.

jannier · 15/08/2025 19:02

StitchHappens · 15/08/2025 18:21

So who should be allowed a family life?
I'm not sure where you stand on the Sunday hours being extended?
I am absolutely against increasing sunday hours, probably because I have to work them.
My point is to those arguing for them to be completely disregarded, that surely they should be willing to do the same (ie give up a weekend day for a week day) rather than ask that the minority who already have to give up at least half of their weekend having to lose it all for their convenience.
ETA this is probably where we will end up anyway as more and more places open on Saturdays, the natural next step is for them to open Sundays, so maybe people should be careful what they wish for. If retail should be open for their convenience then surely so should offices, doctors etc for the convenience of others...

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I disagree with Sunday opening or bank holiday opening were addicted to shopping. Having worked for a major supermarket chain in the past I know the pressure put on staff to do hours at the drop of a hat.

StitchHappens · 15/08/2025 19:14

jannier · 15/08/2025 19:02

I disagree with Sunday opening or bank holiday opening were addicted to shopping. Having worked for a major supermarket chain in the past I know the pressure put on staff to do hours at the drop of a hat.

Then I think you may have misunderstood my previous post i agree with you completely.
I was trying to point out to the other poster that maybe instead of expecting retail workers to work even longer hours at weekends, the solution would actually be for them to give up a day of their weekend in exchange for a day in the week where it would be less busy so they could do their shopping then instead.

jannier · 15/08/2025 19:38

StitchHappens · 15/08/2025 19:14

Then I think you may have misunderstood my previous post i agree with you completely.
I was trying to point out to the other poster that maybe instead of expecting retail workers to work even longer hours at weekends, the solution would actually be for them to give up a day of their weekend in exchange for a day in the week where it would be less busy so they could do their shopping then instead.

It's funny isn't it people used to manage with longer work hours, shorter opening hours and no on line. You would leave work at 6 and shop on the way home or go on a Saturday when shops closed at 5.30

Berlinlover · 15/08/2025 19:40

DrPrunesqualer · 15/08/2025 09:45

Hobbies. Reading.
We all survived covid without shops all the time

The store I work in was a very social place during Covid.

DrPrunesqualer · 15/08/2025 20:06

Berlinlover · 15/08/2025 19:40

The store I work in was a very social place during Covid.

Good to hear.
Although clearly not my point

PluckyChancer · 15/08/2025 20:08

Our supermarkets here in rural Ireland are open till 9pm Sundays and 10 on weekdays. I’m not bothered about 24hr supermarkets myself.

intrepidpanda · 15/08/2025 20:29

Gamerlady · 15/08/2025 18:26

If you actually worked in retail you wouldn't be saying that. We work long enough hours as it is , and family time is very precious. If it was left to me Sundays would stay closed.

Some people aren't as financially well off that they could afford to just drop a day.

intrepidpanda · 15/08/2025 20:40

Most of you probably wouldn't cope if everyone gave up Sundays.
Its not just tesco. It is the whole infrastructure.
No pubs, cinemas, cafes and shops
Also no Internet, electricity, call centres, water and many other things.

Or is it just the people you see that need Sunday off.

Givemeanamethen · 15/08/2025 20:42

ThisPlumCrab · 15/08/2025 11:19

That assumes everyone who shops on Sunday is doing it for mindless entertainment, which just isn’t true. Many people work long or irregular hours, have caring responsibilities or live in areas where Sunday is their only practical time to shop. Comparing it to a child with a console ignores the reality that for a lot of people, it’s about necessity, not addiction.

How can it ever be necessity to shop on a Sunday evening?

Maverickess · 15/08/2025 21:35

Givemeanamethen · 15/08/2025 20:42

How can it ever be necessity to shop on a Sunday evening?

The same reason it might be a necessity to shop any other evening I suppose?

I work 9-6 on a Sunday, at work while the shops are open. In hospitality.

It's not the end of the world I can't call on my way home, I work around it, but actually I've often thought being able to do my shop for the week on Sunday on my way home would great, because I don't have to do it on Monday then, and can do other stuff, quite often miss the shops on a Saturday because I don't finish in time before they close and don't have time before work as often a 12 hour shift and I don't want it sat in my car festering all day if I go before work.

It'd be more convenient, sure I don't need to shop on a Sunday evening, but then no one needs to shop on a Tuesday or Thursday evening either, if they're at work all week then they've got Saturday & Sunday to shop, but it's more convenient to do it one night through the week for some, and quieter, in the same way it'd be more convenient to me for a Sunday because of how my shifts are.

jannier · 15/08/2025 22:26

intrepidpanda · 15/08/2025 20:40

Most of you probably wouldn't cope if everyone gave up Sundays.
Its not just tesco. It is the whole infrastructure.
No pubs, cinemas, cafes and shops
Also no Internet, electricity, call centres, water and many other things.

Or is it just the people you see that need Sunday off.

Apart from call centers the industries you site were open before Sunday trading

intrepidpanda · 15/08/2025 22:33

jannier · 15/08/2025 22:26

Apart from call centers the industries you site were open before Sunday trading

Exactly. Of course they were
This idea of everyone having family days on Sunday in days gone by are a myth.
People only consider people they see. It was the same during covid.

Scarlettpixie · 15/08/2025 22:47

Why not shop online if you don’t like going when it’s busy and it takes up so much of your Sunday? You could at least do this every other week and order longer life things then do a smaller shop in between.

I haven’t done a big food shop in store since early 2020! Even on holiday I get a delivery.

i am fine for shops to open longer on Sundays but I wouldn’t go.

beardediris · 15/08/2025 22:56

QwestSprout · 14/08/2025 12:37

I live in Scotland. I am absolutely fascinated how different our cultures must be that several of you think shops should actually be shut completely on a Sunday. Doubly so because I'm pretty sure as a whole, we're more religious and a higher percentage of us attend church?

No perhaps surprisingly that’s not true Scots are less religious than the English.

Majority of people in Scotland have no religion, census shows

Data from 2022 Scottish census shows secularism increased sharply over decade, from 36.7% of population to 51%

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/may/21/majority-of-people-in-scotland-do-not-believe-in-any-religion-census-shows

jannier · 16/08/2025 10:32

intrepidpanda · 15/08/2025 22:33

Exactly. Of course they were
This idea of everyone having family days on Sunday in days gone by are a myth.
People only consider people they see. It was the same during covid.

But these places are family day places for relaxing and getting away from chores like shopping.....our attitude to supermarkets has changed we now see them as a day out because we've moved away from simple relaxing pleasures and want to shop why are we so addicted to shopping? I bet most of us have browsed our phones on a shopping site at least twice this week ( if not daily) because an advert came up on social media so we took a look. We used to only think about shopping of any sort...food, clothes, DIY etc on one day a week. We're becoming addicts unable to go without.

Rallentanda · 16/08/2025 11:11

The Church of England is everywhere in the bits of England I’ve lived in. Especially because they own a lot of school property and demand that people go to church and christen their kids to get them into primaries. (I know it’s not always the case, before anyone huffs.)

Scotland you don’t have that. Notionally schools are Church of Scotland but nobody gives a shit. Or you opt into Catholic, there are some requirements there I think.

Too many older people were brutalised by the Churches in Scotland to want to pass that down to their kids. C of E is gentle, pervasive and good at community so they keep a measure of soft power, including influencing Sunday opening hours

QwestSprout · 16/08/2025 14:08

beardediris · 15/08/2025 22:56

No perhaps surprisingly that’s not true Scots are less religious than the English.

Ah indeed, thank you. I think it doesn't help I live in a place that's clearly a bit of an outlier - like there are three churches on one road and they're always full every week.